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Question About Hiring Manager Behaviors

NaOH

NaOH

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What's up guys!?

So to start off, I currently have a position already and am looking for new opportunities to grow. I have a pretty stable job out of college and I feel pretty stale after being with the company for 3 years. Anyways, I've been to maybe 5 different interviews (4 in person 2nd interviews) and have ran into this strange behavior twice. Two places have talked me up like they were going to hire me, saying I fit the position really well but when it came time to call me back to arrange things, they never called back. Even when they gave me an exact date they were going to call me. For instance, I did a phone interview, and 2 in person interviews for one company and they said they would give me a call for sure to let me know what's up. One company even said they want me on their team, but never gave me an official offer. I never badgered them and I did call back, but they dodged my calls or just made excuses that they were busy. Maybe a month afterwards, I saw the same job listing go up again and it made me go WTF? I'm not berating myself over this, just wanted some other insight into this behaviour. How normal is this and what does it really mean?

btw, I'm grateful for my job, but there's no colleagues in my office anymore and it's not very youthful so being a young engineer at a senior establishment gets depressing.
 
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NaOH said:
One company even said they want me on their team, but never gave me an official offer. I never badgered them and I did call back, but they dodged my calls or just made excuses that they were busy. Maybe a month afterwards, I saw the same job listing go up again and it made me go WTF?
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Sounds like they may have wanted to hire you, but didn't have the budget to pay what you would have required. Or may have found something in the background check that scared them off, which would have been the reason for the awkward silence.
 
NaOH said:
What's up guys!?

So to start off, I currently have a position already and am looking for new opportunities to grow. I have a pretty stable job out of college and I feel pretty stale after being with the company for 3 years. Anyways, I've been to maybe 5 different interviews (4 in person 2nd interviews) and have ran into this strange behavior twice. Two places have talked me up like they were going to hire me, saying I fit the position really well but when it came time to call me back to arrange things, they never called back. Even when they gave me an exact date they were going to call me. For instance, I did a phone interview, and 2 in person interviews for one company and they said they would give me a call for sure to let me know what's up. One company even said they want me on their team, but never gave me an official offer. I never badgered them and I did call back, but they dodged my calls or just made excuses that they were busy. Maybe a month afterwards, I saw the same job listing go up again and it made me go WTF? I'm not berating myself over this, just wanted some other insight into this behaviour. How normal is this and what does it really mean?

btw, I'm grateful for my job, but there's no colleagues in my office anymore and it's not very youthful so being a young engineer at a senior establishment gets depressing.
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This is what happened with my last hiring requisition from three months ago. HR of course gets about 1000 resumes, filters through about 20 to me, and I interview five over the phone and invite one for an interview (reluctantly). Then I contacted recruiters to send me over their best resumes, and I'm interested in about half of the pool, of which I invite them all to interview in person.

Of about a pool of 8 I have good rapport with 4 and they probably leave thinking they aced the interview. I liked two. The hiring team gets together and debated between the two and we finally pick one. Ultimately we decide not to give an offer because we want to be damn sure about this hire.

The job is still up and I get maybe one resume once a week from HR.
 
glenn1 said:
Sounds like they may have wanted to hire you, but didn't have the budget to pay what you would have required. Or may have found something in the background check that scared them off, which would have been the reason for the awkward silence.
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That specific company didn't run a background check, but another one that did the same thing did. They both talked to me about money though and we kind of came to a number that we were both willing to do for my amount of experience.
 
JS80 said:
This is what happened with my last hiring requisition from three months ago. HR of course gets about 1000 resumes, filters through about 20 to me, and I interview five over the phone and invite one for an interview (reluctantly). Then I contacted recruiters to send me over their best resumes, and I'm interested in about half of the pool, of which I invite them all to interview in person.

Of about a pool of 8 I have good rapport with 4 and they probably leave thinking they aced the interview. I liked two. The hiring team gets together and debated between the two and we finally pick one. Ultimately we decide not to give an offer because we want to be damn sure about this hire.

The job is still up and I get maybe one resume once a week from HR.
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Yeah, this is what I assumed happened. I fit, but not to the T that they would like. It was down to me and one other guy that they felt like wasn't stable enough so I thought I had it in the bag. Lesson learned, gotta take into account the fact that NO ONE will be picked amongst the pool.
 
When I was at a CS career fair, I met a recruiter who was an EE major that worked for Expedia. We had a great talk, and the recruiter had like me so much he referred me to his supervisor, who was also at the career fair. When I talked to the supervisor, he seemed totally hyped up and said things like "we need more people like you" and "you sound like a great fit! We'll contact you soon!" Needless to say, he never got back to me. Meh.
 
It could be as simple as this.

The hiring manager has two jobs.

1. to determine if you are the best person for the job.
2. to convince you that working for their company is the best choice for you.

When I interview I am also selling the company and I plant the seed that they may get a call and an offer, but I do that to anyone that is a possible (some people get a quick interview based on the first 3 minutes) hire. So it could be I loved you at the interview but the next guy that came in was better.
 
Ricemarine said:
When I was at a CS career fair, I met a recruiter who was an EE major that worked for Expedia. We had a great talk, and the recruiter had like me so much he referred me to his supervisor, who was also at the career fair. When I talked to the supervisor, he seemed totally hyped up and said things like "we need more people like you" and "you sound like a great fit! We'll contact you soon!" Needless to say, he never got back to me. Meh.
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I always act enthusiastic when talking to a candidate, regardless of whether we extend an offer or not.

You're trying to recruit people and get them excited to join your company, not be like "hey, your resume sucks and you wont fit in here at all so why are you wasting my time?"

Though, I have NEVER said "we'll be in touch" or anything like that, I leave contacting people up to HR after I turn in my candidate evaluations. Just end the interview with a "Best of luck" and move on.
 
Actions speak louder than words. If they wanted you, they would take steps to go further or hire you.

I've been on the market for quite some time and grew a thick skin for this. Just take above advice and take what they say with a grain of salt.
 
Its Q4. Teams have positions to fill, but when it comes time for the final approval to hire, executive management will drag their feet. Increasing staff just before end of year will hurt their numbers. Don't expect anything until January.
 
A lot of people seem to go through what the OP has. I think it shows a severe lack of professionalism on the hiring manager's part.

Whether the decision is inside the manager's control or not doesn't matter. If the manager can't be bothered or doesn't have the guts to give you a five minute call, thank you for your time and wish you luck, you can bet your ass that person would never fight for you should you ever go to work for them. In all honestly, with places like that, you're better off.

Good luck.
 
GF is going through this trying to find a nursing position. Gets into these interviews and it sounds great, they go over benefits, schedules, tell her they cant wait for her to start. Then never get back to her. It is baffling behavior to me as every job I have ever interviewed that I didnt get a job never discussed benefits. And any job where we got to that point I was offered a position. So far my advice has come up short due to a difference in hiring practices between hospitals and clinics and the IT world. I feel bad because when I hear benefits, I think an offer is coming and get her excited. Only for the date they claim they will call pass, and she calls to find the bad news.

Personally I find it unprofessional to not give a call back by the deadline you set to say yay or nay.
 
I thought Nursing is one of those fields where hospitals are desperate for people since there is a big understaffing issue and difficulty of finding RNs etc..
 
You the guy that worked for CDM as an I&C engineer? If so, PM me. I may have a position from my former employer. Lots of young people at the company too because they cannot find people who are "seasoned". Only thing is that you will have to come to the east coast.
 
I'm not a hiring manager bur have spent some time on the recieving end and think it goes something like this:

The higher-ups at most medium and large companies in the US look at employees as a financial liability these days. Therefore, they're not really interested in taking on more of them.

The hiring managers you talk to are probably interested and enthusiastic because they're more in touch with the work going on at the company. They've been there through layoffs have seen what endless 50 - 60 hour work-weeks do to the people left over. They talk with direct managers who tell them they could use an extra hand here and there.

Somewhere along the line, the hiring manager gets the green light to interview candidates but when the process is done and a good match found, the higher-ups have a new excuse (rough quarter, slow order outlook, re-structuring, market uncertainty, take your pick) and the can gets kicked down the road.
 
Dman8777 said:
I'm not a hiring manager bur have spent some time on the recieving end and think it goes something like this:

The higher-ups at most medium and large companies in the US look at employees as a financial liability these days. Therefore, they're not really interested in taking on more of them.

The hiring managers you talk to are probably interested and enthusiastic because they're more in touch with the work going on at the company. They've been there through layoffs have seen what endless 50 - 60 hour work-weeks do to the people left over. They talk with direct managers who tell them they could use an extra hand here and there.

Somewhere along the line, the hiring manager gets the green light to interview candidates but when the process is done and a good match found, the higher-ups have a new excuse (rough quarter, slow order outlook, re-structuring, market uncertainty, take your pick) and the can gets kicked down the road.
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Yea...because having your people waste time recruiting and interviewing is a great use of resources.
 
Vic Vega said:
A lot of people seem to go through what the OP has. I think it shows a severe lack of professionalism on the hiring manager's part.

Whether the decision is inside the manager's control or not doesn't matter. If the manager can't be bothered or doesn't have the guts to give you a five minute call, thank you for your time and wish you luck, you can bet your ass that person would never fight for you should you ever go to work for them. In all honestly, with places like that, you're better off.

Good luck.
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It is not only lack of professionalism on the hiring mangers part but, also the company they represent. I hold the company responsible to the same standard they hold me.
 
I've had that. Annoying, but now it's par for the course and I call bullshit everytime I hear it (not out loud).

Most recently, I had a discussion with a professor at my university to get me onboard for a special project. Ya, never happened.

At my current job, I was once offered a summer student position years ago, but the guy took weeks to get back to me. There were only 2 candidates, me being one, so I assumed I got passed over, which made me go back to my previous summer's job.
 
Hugo Drax said:
I thought Nursing is one of those fields where hospitals are desperate for people since there is a big understaffing issue and difficulty of finding RNs etc..
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Depends on the dept. Not all RNs have the same qualifications or expertise. For instance GF is applying for a kidney dialisys position that would require a 4 month certification program. She is also applying for an ER position that requires another certification she lacks. Her background\expertise is in hospice and bedside oncology. The economy has tossed RNs out on the street like any other profession.
 
Vic Vega said:
A lot of people seem to go through what the OP has. I think it shows a severe lack of professionalism on the hiring manager's part.

Whether the decision is inside the manager's control or not doesn't matter. If the manager can't be bothered or doesn't have the guts to give you a five minute call, thank you for your time and wish you luck, you can bet your ass that person would never fight for you should you ever go to work for them. In all honestly, with places like that, you're better off.

Good luck.
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Agree with all of this.

One of the first positions I applied/interviewed for the manager was convinced I was the guy for his dept. Low and behold, 5 years later, I am still here and he still fights for promotions and raises for me when he feels they are due. One of the main reasons I haven't moved on is a boss that doesn't sweat the small stuff like some do.

He has his bad days for sure, but more often than not, every day I come to work is a good day.
 
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