question about Harry Potter: The Goblet of fire

[FreshPrince]

I have some observations/questions about the movie...

* towards the end of the movie, Lord Voldemort revealed that he has many generals, if you will. Lucius Malfoy's face was revealed as one of his generals. Why didn't Harry tell Dumbledore about it? Wouldn't this bring some trouble to the Malfoy's?

* what's the deal with the leader of the Durmstrang Institute(the guys that showed up in the ship). He was sneaking into the chamber where the Goblet of fire was held and I guess did something to it? during the movie, they also showed he has the skull and snake tatoo on his arm. Does this mean he's one of Lord Voldemort's generals?

* when Harry told Dumbledore that his parents helped him with his fight against Voldemort, what did Dumbledore say to him? I missed it because the theatre had projector problems... :|

I have not read any of the books so bear with me...

 

[Conky]

Hermione is losing her cuteness.

 

[GeneValgene]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I have some observations/questions about the movie...

* towards the end of the movie, Lord Voldemort revealed that he has many generals, if you will. Lucius Malfoy's face was revealed as one of his generals. Why didn't Harry tell Dumbledore about it? Wouldn't this bring some trouble to the Malfoy's?

* what's the deal with the leader of the Durmstrang Institute(the guys that showed up in the ship). He was sneaking into the chamber where the Goblet of fire was held and I guess did something to it? during the movie, they also showed he has the skull and snake tatoo on his arm. Does this mean he's one of Lord Voldemort's generals?

* when Harry told Dumbledore that his parents helped him with his fight against Voldemort, what did Dumbledore say to him? I missed it because the theatre had projector problems... :|

I have not read any of the books so bear with me...

i have all the same questions

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I have some observations/questions about the movie...

* towards the end of the movie, Lord Voldemort revealed that he has many generals, if you will. Lucius Malfoy's face was revealed as one of his generals. Why didn't Harry tell Dumbledore about it? Wouldn't this bring some trouble to the Malfoy's?

I believe in the book he does, or it is implied.

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
* During the movie, they also showed he has the skull and snake tatoo on his arm. Does this mean he's one of Lord Voldemort's generals?

In the book it is explained better, he was one of Lord Voldemort's followers, but turned away from him, like Snape (thus why they were shown together).

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I have not read any of the books so bear with me...

This movie, compared to the book was not very good. Read the books, they explain a lot more (i'd say even more than the LOTR movies vs. books).

 

[ElFenix]

i think he mentioned malfoy to dumbledore in the book
the guy snuck in, but i think it was dude with his polyjuice potion. the snake means he's a deatheater, not necessarily high up in the hierarchy.
dumbledore told harry that people can't be brought back from the dead.

 

[oldirtythao]

Harry does tell Dumbledore about Lucious in the book, however w/ the current minister of magic they can't do anything about it w/o hard evidence. The dude also doesn't want to believe that Voldemort is back. Dumbledore believes harry.

The leader dude from the other school was apart of voldemort's army. He's the one that ratted out crouch's son in the flashback/memory scene. He's scared b/c he ratted out Voldemort's most loyal guy...

The movie didn't do a good job of explaining what happened to harry's wand. Basically when two wands that are made of the same constructiong (dumbledore's phoenix's tail feather) and they attack eachother.. strange things can happen... in this case all the ppl that were killed from voldemort's wand came out of his wand... kinda like a ghost but not really..

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I have some observations/questions about the movie...

* towards the end of the movie, Lord Voldemort revealed that he has many generals, if you will. Lucius Malfoy's face was revealed as one of his generals. Why didn't Harry tell Dumbledore about it? Wouldn't this bring some trouble to the Malfoy's?

* what's the deal with the leader of the Durmstrang Institute(the guys that showed up in the ship). He was sneaking into the chamber where the Goblet of fire was held and I guess did something to it? during the movie, they also showed he has the skull and snake tatoo on his arm. Does this mean he's one of Lord Voldemort's generals?

* when Harry told Dumbledore that his parents helped him with his fight against Voldemort, what did Dumbledore say to him? I missed it because the theatre had projector problems... :|

I have not read any of the books so bear with me...

1. The "Generals" are actually KKK in black robes with $1 Halloween masks. They are simply sadistic peons who love destroying and killing.

2. He was one of the generals and he actually didn't place Harry's name in the Goblet of Fire. It was one of many mutated sub-plots without a meaning.

3. I don't believe Harry and Dumbledore talked about this in the movie.

This movie was by far the worst of the four. You should read the associated book before going to see any of these otherwise you will be lost and mislead.

-Por

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
This movie was by far the worst of the four. You should read the associated book before going to see any of these otherwise you will be lost and mislead.

-Por

That's not surprising since this was one of the longer books and had so many different things going on it (the quidditch tournament, the romance, the tri-wizard tournament events, the deatheaters, MadEye Moody, Voldermort, etc etc). That makes it tough to translate to film.

 

[Nick5324]

This movie is the "worst" of the four in the sense that it cuts out a lot from the book, of course this book is fairly long. The movie does rush through the story, so if you've read the book, you can't help but think about all the things that should have been in the movie. If you haven't read the book, you probably are left with lots of questions (just like the OP). I still liked the movie, but am disappointed b/c it could have been a lot better. My biggest beef with the movie is that they cut lots of details to allow most of the screen time for the tri wizzard tournament yet still cut big parts out of the three events.

 

[tommywishbone]

I just like saying the word... goblet. Say it three times real loud and people will look at you funny.

 

[Otaking]

I've never read any of the books, but I thought the movie was good.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

There was far too much in the book to translate to film. It was a mistake from the beginning.
And I have a feeling the next few films will be as well.

 

[Vegitto]

They raped the book.

Where's the bit at the end where the twins get all the money?
We raped it out.

Where's the annoying little elf, Dobby?
We raped it out.

Where's the battle scene at the end that took like ages in the book?
We raped it out.

Where's the plot?
We raped it out.

Do yourself a favour and don't see this movie, whether you HAVE or HAVEN'T read the books.

 

[FreshPrince]

Originally posted by: oldirtythao
Harry does tell Dumbledore about Lucious in the book, however w/ the current minister of magic they can't do anything about it w/o hard evidence. The dude also doesn't want to believe that Voldemort is back. Dumbledore believes harry.

The leader dude from the other school was apart of voldemort's army. He's the one that ratted out crouch's son in the flashback/memory scene. He's scared b/c he ratted out Voldemort's most loyal guy...

The movie didn't do a good job of explaining what happened to harry's wand. Basically when two wands that are made of the same constructiong (dumbledore's phoenix's tail feather) and they attack eachother.. strange things can happen... in this case all the ppl that were killed from voldemort's wand came out of his wand... kinda like a ghost but not really..

ok, thanks!

those explainations make sense.

I guess we'll see what happens in movies 5, 6, and 7

 

[PING]

The movie was disappointing for me as well. The should had made it into two movie, ala Kill Bill Volume 1 and 2.

 

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
They raped the book.

Where's the bit at the end where the twins get all the money?
We raped it out.

it is not necessary. the twins got a lot of face time in this movie.

Where's the annoying little elf, Dobby?
We raped it out.

not necessary to the overall plot. it takes some creative editing unfortunately, but neville is known as the herbology guy in their class, so he gets the info to harry about the gillyweed.

Where's the battle scene at the end that took like ages in the book?
We raped it out.

the graveyard scene was already pretty near perfect. a three hour battle scene and the kids would go stark raving mad, along with their parents.

Where's the plot?
We raped it out.

the plot was told. you had the triwizard tournament, the return of voldemort, but everything was just abbreviated.

Do yourself a favour and don't see this movie, whether you HAVE or HAVEN'T read the books.

it's the best out of the four. it moves the best, compared to the lumbering of 1 and 2. plus the kids have grown into their roles.

 

[dawnbug]

Originally posted by: freesia39

Originally posted by: Vegitto
They raped the book.

Where's the bit at the end where the twins get all the money?
We raped it out.

it is not necessary. the twins got a lot of face time in this movie.

I digress. It's critical for the plot of the next book/movie, unless they're going to make something up about Harry giving them a huge sum of money from his personal stores for no apparent reason in the beginning of the next one.

 

[Super56K]

Why does everyone say the first two movies are too slow, or not as good as the latter two? I felt the third and fourth films were hard to follow, especially the fourth. I've read the books and for most of the movie I was trying to figure out what the hell they were doing. To the OP, I'm sorry you've only seen the movie versions of Potter books. If you're watching the movies then do yourself a favor and read the books. The fourth film has setup the fifth to be a real sh*tfest.

 

[FreshPrince]

I thought the 4th movie was ok. definately better than 1.

I liked 2 and 3 though.

I would say 3>2>4>1

my opinion of 4 may change if the projector didn't crash 4 times during the movie :|

I can't wait to see what 5 is all about

 

[George P Burdell]

Do yourself a favor and read the books, you don't know how much the movies cut out.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I have some observations/questions about the movie...

* towards the end of the movie, Lord Voldemort revealed that he has many generals, if you will. Lucius Malfoy's face was revealed as one of his generals. Why didn't Harry tell Dumbledore about it? Wouldn't this bring some trouble to the Malfoy's?

* what's the deal with the leader of the Durmstrang Institute(the guys that showed up in the ship). He was sneaking into the chamber where the Goblet of fire was held and I guess did something to it? during the movie, they also showed he has the skull and snake tatoo on his arm. Does this mean he's one of Lord Voldemort's generals?

* when Harry told Dumbledore that his parents helped him with his fight against Voldemort, what did Dumbledore say to him? I missed it because the theatre had projector problems... :|

I have not read any of the books so bear with me...

1. He did, just not in the movie.

2. Yes, Karkarov is a Death Eater (remember the scene in the Pensieve where he outed Barty Crouch Jr. and Professor Snape?)

3. "Know that no spell can reawaken the dead. Dark and difficult times lie ahead, Harry, and soon we must all make the choice between what is right...and what is easy."

Read the book! The movie leaves out probably 50% of the subplots from the book!

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Hermione is losing her cuteness.

Yeah, but she's turning out to be *fine*

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I have some observations/questions about the movie...

* towards the end of the movie, Lord Voldemort revealed that he has many generals, if you will. Lucius Malfoy's face was revealed as one of his generals. Why didn't Harry tell Dumbledore about it? Wouldn't this bring some trouble to the Malfoy's?

I believe in the book he does, or it is implied.

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
* During the movie, they also showed he has the skull and snake tatoo on his arm. Does this mean he's one of Lord Voldemort's generals?

In the book it is explained better, he was one of Lord Voldemort's followers, but turned away from him, like Snape (thus why they were shown together).

Originally posted by: FreshPrince
I have not read any of the books so bear with me...

This movie, compared to the book was not very good. Read the books, they explain a lot more (i'd say even more than the LOTR movies vs. books).

I don't think Karkarov's role has been fully explained/explored in the books to date, but suffice to say, you *don't* turn your back on Voldemort and live to tell the tale. Bear that in mind when considering the true face of Severus Snape. Those who've read the latest books know what I'm talking about.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
This movie was by far the worst of the four. You should read the associated book before going to see any of these otherwise you will be lost and mislead.

-Por

That's not surprising since this was one of the longer books and had so many different things going on it (the quidditch tournament, the romance, the tri-wizard tournament events, the deatheaters, MadEye Moody, Voldermort, etc etc). That makes it tough to translate to film.

The movie needed another hour, pure and simple. It did a good job of conveying the most major subplots (Tri-Wizard tournament, return of Voldemort) but stripped out a HUGE number of items. I do think they got all the stuff that turns out to be *critical* later on, but definitely, the movie needed another hour so they could have put in so many of the other subplots, not the least of which involves the appearance of the Dark Mark at the Quidditch World Cup and a couple of house-elves.

Jason

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
They raped the book.

Where's the bit at the end where the twins get all the money?
We raped it out.

Where's the annoying little elf, Dobby?
We raped it out.

Where's the battle scene at the end that took like ages in the book?
We raped it out.

Where's the plot?
We raped it out.

Do yourself a favour and don't see this movie, whether you HAVE or HAVEN'T read the books.

Exagerate much? The battle was there, what movie did you watch? Obviously, the movie wasn't as rich and detailed as the book, but it's still a pretty good movie. I think that it's better watching if you *haven't* read the book, though. I am, however, glad that I read the book.

Jason