Question about dog attack.

[Texashiker]

huh? half the reason I have a dog is how agressive he gets when spooked. I dont want him to welcome an intruder with a lick on the hand and showing him where I am sleeping

There is a difference in a dog protecting his property, and a dog that wonders off his property and attacks other dogs, and possibly humans.

Dogs are territorial, they know where their territory ends, and the other dog territory starts. That is why dogs piss on trees, to mark their property.

A well behaved/trained dog will protect their property.

A badly behaved/trained dog will be looking for a fight to extend their property.

The problem I have with dogs that behave poorly, if they are aggressive towards other dogs, will they be aggressive towards a child? I am not willing to take that risk. When an aggressive dog is on my property, it will be dealt with. I would rather the dog be put down, then one of my kids or grandkids be attacked.

Keep in mind that I live in a rural area. It is not uncommon to hear coyotes at sundown, or see dead skunks on the road. When you live in rural areas, all strange acting animals should be treated as if they have rabies. If an aggressive animal shows up, as far as I know, it has rabies.

Since I live outside the city, we do not have a dog catcher. If I call the county sheriff because of an aggressive dog, all the sheriff will do is shoot the dog. If the owner of the dog can be found, the owner might get a ticket.

Put on a balance beam, the safety and well being of my kids and grand kids outweigh some dog.

 

[alkemyst]

I dont care what it is, I keep a loaded 22 rifle just for cases like what the OP posted.

After attacking your dog, whats next? Your kids, grand kids, wife, maybe even you?

Dogs that act in an aggressive manner should be put down, period. I have no patience for dealing with animals that act aggressive towards anything. One day the dog attacks your dog, the next day it attacks your kids.

It's funny the federal banking system outlawed equity lines and helocs in Texas due to what amounted to the whole state not understanding basic principals.

Logic like your's solidifies it.

 

[AreaCode707]

Getting in the middle of a dog fight is really risky. Grabbing an attacking dog is a terrible idea. Once they are attacking, it is easy for them to turn and attack you. Especially true if you don't know the dogs and they might not be very people friendly to begin with.

If yelling at them doesn't break it up, and it will for many dogs, grab the nearest rock or stick and give it a good solid chuck. They need something to stop the attack and get them away from the victim dog.

 

[alkemyst]

a bucket of water would work a lot better than a rock.

 

[Ichinisan]

shoulda broken out a hose or something.

No way. Just break it up.

By the time you turn the spigot handle, the fight would be over and there would be injuries. Probably 99.9% of dogs will stop when confronted by a human that has the correct authoritative demeanor.

 

[Rifter]

Hit them on their nose.

this.

Once a buddies rotty who was pretty agressive to most people snapped and started running at me from across the yard snarling, for no reason. I knew he was going to attack me and i had time to grab a sweater off the seat of my truck i was standing beside and wrap it around my arm. put my arm out for the dog to latch onto, which it did. Then i punched it with my other hand as hard as i could in the nose. I hit it so hard it let go and was walking around all drunk looking for 5 min it had no balance at all. I honestly cant believe i didnt knock it out im not a little guy and i literally hit it as hard as i could.

Ever since then the dog is super nice to me even though it is still a dick to most other people still but i can run around playing with it and even playfight and its cool with that..

and FYI it isnt my buddies fault the dog is a asshole he rescued it at two years old from a abusive home. And its never attacked random people its fenced in on his farm and everyone who goes in the area knows the risks with the dog.

 

[bfdd]

You did the right thing, I hope you didn't hold back. If they don't know you mean business they'll get even more pissed, this is assuming the dog knows you, for fucking with them. If the dog doesn't know you, beat the living fuck out of it because it's going to be trying to protect itself no-holds-barred.

rifterut, you didn't knock it out because dogs don't get knocked out as easily as humans. it's believed one of the reasons humans are so easy to knock out is because it was developed as a defense mechanism against big predators that like to eat their prey alive.

 

[AreaCode707]

a bucket of water would work a lot better than a rock.

Yeah, but rocks are way more available on the spur of the moment.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

You did the right thing, I hope you didn't hold back. If they don't know you mean business they'll get even more pissed, this is assuming the dog knows you, for fucking with them. If the dog doesn't know you, beat the living fuck out of it because it's going to be trying to protect itself no-holds-barred.

rifterut, you didn't knock it out because dogs don't get knocked out as easily as humans. it's believed one of the reasons humans are so easy to knock out is because it was developed as a defense mechanism against big predators that like to eat their prey alive.

Thanks, I got a chuckle out of that.

 

[drebo]

I got an infraction the last time I posted in a dog thread.

But, seriously, why does one person/family need four large dogs? Why? And it's obvious they're aggressive. They probably bark often at anyone near the fence. Neighbors probably worry about letting their kids out to play because of it.

I'd say your "friend" is a dickhead and I would have let the dogs kill each other rather than risk myself trying to save them.

 

[Leros]

About 5 years ago I was working at a factory in the industrial part of town and I got attacked by a pit bull out in the yard. I instinctively kicked it in the chest (I was wearing steel toed boot, so I probably did some real damage). The dog backed off instantly and slowly walked away.

I felt kinda bad. I didn't mean to do that much damage. My reaction was purely instinctual.

 

[shortylickens]

About 5 years ago I was working at a factory in the industrial part of town and I got attacked by a pit bull out in the yard. I instinctively kicked it in the chest (I was wearing steel toed boot, so I probably did some real damage). The dog backed off instantly and slowly walked away.

I felt kinda bad. I didn't mean to do that much damage. My reaction was purely instinctual.

You have better instincts than some
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhjDXP9Mp6g&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWE6oPv3KLs

 

[Mr. Lennon]

I had to break up a fight between a pit and 5 pound dog. The pit was holding the little dog in the air by the fucking ear. I was in wrestling at the time, so my first instinct was to tackle and get him into a choke hold. The bastard finally let go after I nearly choked him to death.

 

[alkemyst]

Yeah, but rocks are way more available on the spur of the moment.

I guess it depends how nice the neighborhood is. I'd have a hard time hunting down a rock of any significance around here.

 

[alkemyst]

I got an infraction the last time I posted in a dog thread.

But, seriously, why does one person/family need four large dogs? Why? And it's obvious they're aggressive. They probably bark often at anyone near the fence. Neighbors probably worry about letting their kids out to play because of it.

I'd say your "friend" is a dickhead and I would have let the dogs kill each other rather than risk myself trying to save them.

Sadly in most dog attacks that lead to death of pet/man, the common factor is multiple dog homes.

People seem to prove they cannot provide the proper environments for a single pet, yet alone 4+ large dogs.

 

[Texashiker]

It's funny the federal banking system outlawed equity lines and helocs in Texas due to what amounted to the whole state not understanding basic principals.

Logic like your's solidifies it.

My logic? "PLEASE" explain.

Explain to me how dogs are perfect pets and never attack children.

Better yet, explain to me how aggressive dogs never attack people.

Sadly in most dog attacks that lead to death of pet/man, the common factor is multiple dog homes.

And the opening post was about multiple dogs attacking the OPs dog. Multiple dogs in a pack pose the greatest threat to people and pets, but for some reason you attack my logic?

Come back when you can keep your story straight.

It's funny the federal banking system outlawed equity lines and helocs in Texas due to what amounted to the whole state not understanding basic principals.

You really should stop posting about stuff you know nothing about. The Texas Constitution prohibited home equity loans, not the federal banking system. It was to protect homeowners from greedy bankers.

The citizens of the state of Texas in around 2003 voted to allow home equity loans.

 

[alkemyst]

My logic? "PLEASE" explain.

Explain to me how dogs are perfect pets and never attack children.

Better yet, explain to me how aggressive dogs never attack people.

I didn't declare any of that, hombre.

You went off on the tangent how it's your god-given texas right to pop off dogs that come on your 'estate' and you even keep a .22 handy to fix them mangy curs. You a straight-shooter Hoss, we know that.

And the opening post was about multiple dogs attacking the OPs dog. Multiple dogs in a pack pose the greatest threat to people and pets, but for some reason you attack my logic?

Come back when you can keep your story straight.

Huh, Tex? I was referring to two separate cases. The one where our fellow cowboys swear they'd just jump right in and snatch them two loco mutts up dead-to-rights by their collars and just hold them arm's distance apart. Don't worry, they will have their budweiser nice and safe between their knees.

You really should stop posting about stuff you know nothing about. The Texas Constitution prohibited home equity loans, not the federal banking system. It was to protect homeowners from greedy bankers.

The citizens of the state of Texas in around 2003 voted to allow home equity loans.

Just a history lesson, the laws came due to the fact that a bunch of your fellow wranglers had no fucking idea that a HELOC/Equity line gives the lender rights to take the home if you don't or can't pay. I know, fuck son! shit I just wanted a new Quad and Remington 500 myself, if I don't want to pay you have no rights to my trailer! Bastard Yankees!

It's doesn't seem odd to you that your people had to VOTE to be allowed to manage their own money after that?

I think I just know a little bit more about your good ol' texas than you do.

And dogs.

 

[El Guaraguao]

First, you start off by being a pack leader. By biting the larger dogs throat , you show those dogs whos boss. Once they recognize this, they will stop fighting.

 

[Texashiker]

It's doesn't seem odd to you that your people had to VOTE to be allowed to manage their own money after that?

No, it does not seem odd that the state would protect people who do not know how to manage their money, and protect banks from loaning out too much money.

Home equity loans should be outlawed nation wide - but that is just my opinion.

You went off on the tangent how it's your god-given texas right to pop off dogs that come on your 'estate' and you even keep a .22 handy to fix them mangy curs.

Its called the castle law.

You a straight-shooter Hoss, we know that.

Thank you, pic of a deer I took a few years ago with a Weatherby Vanguard 270, kneeling position and about a 75 yard shot.

 

[mvbighead]

I'd probably kick the aggressive dogs in the instance. In most cases, dogs tend to know better than to bite a human.

Should they not know better, you better have a plan B though.

 

[brandonb]

3 of my friends dogs (2 goldens and a rott/chow mix) attacked his other dog (mutt half their size) and I stepped in to help the mutt. I tried pulling them off by their collars and yelling at them, but that didn't work. Obviously they are too strong for me to throw around, and I could only grab 2 at a time. Finally I starting hitting and kicking them until they all let go and backed off. My question is, is that the right way to break up a dog fight? Could me hitting them have made them more aggressive and made it worse. I really didn't know what to do. Over 200lbs of dog vs a scrawny 35lb mutt I figured they would kill him if they wanted to. I am surprised that none of them tried to bite me the whole time. Anyone have any insight.

These 3 attacking dogs have been properly socialized. They have been trained that they should never attack a human. Thats a good thing. That said, you were lucky to not be attacked, but I'd suggest never doing that again. If you attack a dog, it will likely attack you. Fighting aggression with aggression in dogs is never a good idea.

Another thing to remember is that dogs are pack animals. The chances are, the 3 dogs were "in a pack" in their mentality and the 4th dog was disrespecting the pack. Which is what caused the fight. Usually a dog will submit (lay on its back with their belly up) indicating that they give up. Fighting will usually occur until that happens.

If it was a serious all out fight, the owner of the dog has not let 4th dog into the pack properly. If the owner was the "alpha dog", the leader of the pack, the alpha dog can introduce a new dog into the pack and the pack will respect the new addition. If a serious fight occured its likely that there are 2 separate packs in the house hold. The 4th dog, and one containing the other 3 dogs. Thats not a good thing. The owner has to control the dogs and establish dominance so the dogs don't establish their own pack order or separate packs.

The dogs will likely always fight with each other as that is how dogs establish dominance. My dogs always fight with one another. But more in a playful manner not very aggressive. But they will usually growl and snip/snap at each as they try to steal each others bones or dog treats. But thats how it works. The alpha controls treats and gives them to the other as they see fit. Which is why owners should never ever let the dogs do what they want.

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The best thing for you to do to is let the dogs fight it out. If you believe a dog could be seriously hurt or killed, then step in, and the best thing to do is grab the dog behind the head on their neck (scruff) and clamp on it while saying no... A dogs is trained to respect this as their parents did this to them while they were young puppies to keep order in the pack.

 

[AreaCode707]

I guess it depends how nice the neighborhood is. I'd have a hard time hunting down a rock of any significance around here.

Wow, could you have been less subtle about turning this into a class issue?

 

[ElFenix]

It's funny the federal banking system outlawed equity lines and helocs in Texas due to what amounted to the whole state not understanding basic principals.

you're so full of shit.

 

[SP33Demon]

Stomp them in the face, and then kick them in the nuts. If they don't have nuts, commence face stomping.

 

[SP33Demon]

Just a history lesson, the laws came due to the fact that a bunch of your fellow wranglers had no fucking idea that a HELOC/Equity line gives the lender rights to take the home if you don't or can't pay. I know, fuck son! shit I just wanted a new Quad and Remington 500 myself, if I don't want to pay you have no rights to my trailer! Bastard Yankees!

It's doesn't seem odd to you that your people had to VOTE to be allowed to manage their own money after that?

I think I just know a little bit more about your good ol' texas than you do.

And dogs.

This post is as stupid as Europeans blaming us for the subprime crisis.