question about burn image on TV.

Semidevil

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so per my previous post, I bought a samsung 50inch widescreen(16:9) PDP just yesterday. am very excited about it, but do not want to ruin it.

I looked at the manual and the very first thing on the user manual is this:

"The warranty does not cover burn in images..."

I continued reading and it gave a bunch of warnings such as:
--try to watch only programs that take up the whole screen, the black horizontal bars along the top and bottom of the screen can cause a burn in.
--the scrolling bar at the bottom that tells you stock quotes can also cause burn in.
--watching DVD's can also cause burn in(I forgot the exact wording)???
-- video games not good for TV.


Do I need to be very very cautious about what I watch on TV?
First of all, most of my channels and a bunch of programs I like to watch aren't full screen. a lot of them have the black strip along the top and bottom.
I dont understand the bit about the stock quote thing. kind of makes it hard to watch the news if I need to avoid stock quotes.
Right now, with the terrible weather going on, all of my local channels have a blue strip at the bottom with scrolling text for school closings. Will that burn the image on the screen? IF I watch "HGTV" and the HGTV is branded at the bottom of the program for a long time, will it eventually burn my screen?
what do they mean about the DVD thing?
I do not play video games, so I think that will be fine.

so my question is do I really need to pay *that* much attention when I watch my TV? Is it really that easy to burn the TV?

supposedly, the TV has 'burn prevention technology' where the pixel is set to shift every 2 mintues. does that help??

 

CalvinHobbes

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The later generation plasmas are much better at avoiding burn-in than the early models. CRT and Plama TV's can suffer from uneven phosphur wear which is what causes the "burn-in".

There are some things you can do to minimize the problem. Vary what you watch and how you watch for the first 100 hours (I think that's the current recommendation). Lowering the picture/contrast setting can also help.

There is a burn-in thread over at AVSforum that you should check out.

 

montypythizzle

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Tend to avoid images that will stay on there for more than 20 minutes for the first 100 hours. If it is anything like a CRT, which they compare it to, those really only get burn-in after more than one day of a static image.

I don't care, I am getting a 50" Samsung after my money is all saved up.
 

FP

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I've played video games with static life/ammo bars on my Pioneer PDP since the day I bought it and never had any problems.

Some of my gaming sessions have lasted 6-7 hours straight.

I always run full screen HD content for at least an hour after any long static image session though.

Just keep your contrast session at about the middle and you should be fine.
 

trmiv

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I just got a 50" Samsung plasma. I found a break-in DVD at avsforums that I ran on the TV for the first 150 hours (was only going to do 100, but got busy and just left it for two more days) before I even watched any TV on it. After that I installed and calibrated the TV and continued to run the break-in dvd after I was done watching TV for the day until I reached 250 hours on the TV. Another thing I do is if I've watched something that has a ticker or score or played my 360 I will set the scrolling burn-in protection to run for an hour after I go to bed.
 

zinfamous

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just break it in the standard way, ro by using one those DVDs ^

I've had my 42" Samsung for over a year now and never had a problem. I play games on it, watch a lot of sports.
 

montypythizzle

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
just break it in the standard way, ro by using one those DVDs ^

I've had my 42" Samsung for over a year now and never had a problem. I play games on it, watch a lot of sports.

OMG DAT IS MAKIN TEH FOSFOURS BURN N!!!!

PLZ GIT N LCD IF U R GOIN TO BE WATCHIN TEH GAMEZ ON IT!#!?#!?#

Sincerely,
LCD fan club.
 

TheDrake

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wow, seems like such a pain! geez, almost makes me not want to try a plasma again. I keep it on sportscenter almost 24/7
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: TheDrake
wow, seems like such a pain! geez, almost makes me not want to try a plasma again. I keep it on sportscenter almost 24/7

so do I, and like I mentioned, it isn't an issue. spend the first 100 hours or so with less-than-stellar PQ, and you're rewarded with PQ better than LCD or DLP. for 10-15 years, if you choose not to upgrade, of course..
 

trmiv

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Once they are broken in IR isn't a problem. When I first flipped on my plasma and was in the menus setting the break-in settings I was amazed how quickly IR from the menus popped up, how noticeable it was, and how long it took the scrolling screen saver to get rid of it. Now that the TV has over 200 hours on it I can be in the menus for quite awhile and barely even see any IR and any that I do see is wiped away very quickly by regular TV viewing.

My only beef with my Samsung 5054 plasma is the glare problems. I wish I would have bought the 5064. Oh well.
 

Semidevil

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thanks guys. a few more questions.
the TV settings in my Tv were not altered. they are set at default. is that okay for breaking in purposes?

after the first 100 hours or so of breaking in, if nothing bad happens to the TV, can I be more relaxed or do I still need to be very cautious(I mean seriously, every TV station has a logo at the corner, I dont know how I can watch a decent show comfrotable if I must change it every 20 minutes).

finally, where do you get the break in CD? I could not find it.

thanks
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: Semidevil
so per my previous post, I bought a samsung 50inch widescreen(16:9) PDP just yesterday. am very excited about it, but do not want to ruin it.

I looked at the manual and the very first thing on the user manual is this:

"The warranty does not cover burn in images..."

I continued reading and it gave a bunch of warnings such as:
--try to watch only programs that take up the whole screen, the black horizontal bars along the top and bottom of the screen can cause a burn in.
--the scrolling bar at the bottom that tells you stock quotes can also cause burn in.
--watching DVD's can also cause burn in(I forgot the exact wording)???
-- video games not good for TV.


Do I need to be very very cautious about what I watch on TV?
First of all, most of my channels and a bunch of programs I like to watch aren't full screen. a lot of them have the black strip along the top and bottom.
I dont understand the bit about the stock quote thing. kind of makes it hard to watch the news if I need to avoid stock quotes.
Right now, with the terrible weather going on, all of my local channels have a blue strip at the bottom with scrolling text for school closings. Will that burn the image on the screen? IF I watch "HGTV" and the HGTV is branded at the bottom of the program for a long time, will it eventually burn my screen?
what do they mean about the DVD thing?
I do not play video games, so I think that will be fine.

so my question is do I really need to pay *that* much attention when I watch my TV? Is it really that easy to burn the TV?

supposedly, the TV has 'burn prevention technology' where the pixel is set to shift every 2 mintues. does that help??

The manual is just lying to you, honest. Just take the various posters here who pimp plasmas word for it they are utterly burn in proof now, not the manufacturers. What do they know? Oh, yea. They just make the things. Silly me. Enjoy your 100 hours of plasma break in DVD bliss while you run the TV while you are not watching it.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: TheDrake
wow, seems like such a pain! geez, almost makes me not want to try a plasma again. I keep it on sportscenter almost 24/7

so do I, and like I mentioned, it isn't an issue. spend the first 100 hours or so with less-than-stellar PQ, and you're rewarded with PQ better than LCD or DLP. for 10-15 years, if you choose not to upgrade, of course..

Yea, just get back to us in 10-15 years about that wonderful burned in plasma when its at half brightness about how great the picture quality is, Zin. Of course you will buy a new plasma 2 or 3 years from now and sell the old one before you can compare it, but hey, good job on the plasma shill job in the meantime. :thumbsdown:
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: TheDrake
wow, seems like such a pain! geez, almost makes me not want to try a plasma again. I keep it on sportscenter almost 24/7

so do I, and like I mentioned, it isn't an issue. spend the first 100 hours or so with less-than-stellar PQ, and you're rewarded with PQ better than LCD or DLP. for 10-15 years, if you choose not to upgrade, of course..

Yea, just get back to us in 10-15 years about that wonderful burned in plasma when its at half brightness about how great the picture quality is, Zin. Of course you will buy a new plasma 2 or 3 years from now and sell the old one before you can compare it, but hey, good job on the plasma shill job in the meantime. :thumbsdown:

I'll gladly take PQ better than a LCD for 15 years.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: TheDrake
wow, seems like such a pain! geez, almost makes me not want to try a plasma again. I keep it on sportscenter almost 24/7

so do I, and like I mentioned, it isn't an issue. spend the first 100 hours or so with less-than-stellar PQ, and you're rewarded with PQ better than LCD or DLP. for 10-15 years, if you choose not to upgrade, of course..

Yea, just get back to us in 10-15 years about that wonderful burned in plasma when its at half brightness about how great the picture quality is, Zin. Of course you will buy a new plasma 2 or 3 years from now and sell the old one before you can compare it, but hey, good job on the plasma shill job in the meantime. :thumbsdown:

I'll gladly take PQ better than a LCD for 15 years.

Main point being you likely won't have it for 15 years. By then, there will be 15 major upgrades to TVs, at least. Such as possibly holographic projectors where you don't even need a TV at all. Or all wireless HD connections, ect.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: TheDrake
wow, seems like such a pain! geez, almost makes me not want to try a plasma again. I keep it on sportscenter almost 24/7

so do I, and like I mentioned, it isn't an issue. spend the first 100 hours or so with less-than-stellar PQ, and you're rewarded with PQ better than LCD or DLP. for 10-15 years, if you choose not to upgrade, of course..

Yea, just get back to us in 10-15 years about that wonderful burned in plasma when its at half brightness about how great the picture quality is, Zin. Of course you will buy a new plasma 2 or 3 years from now and sell the old one before you can compare it, but hey, good job on the plasma shill job in the meantime. :thumbsdown:

I'll gladly take PQ better than a LCD for 15 years.

Main point being you likely won't have it for 15 years. By then, there will be 15 major upgrades to TVs, at least. Such as possibly holographic projectors where you don't even need a TV at all. Or all wireless HD connections, ect.

Exactly, so I shouldn't have to worry about half-brightness.