Question about blu-ray vs regular DVD

JulesMaximus

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I already have a number of DVD movies, would there be much of a difference between a DVD movie played on my blu-ray player vs the blu-ray version of that same movie?

Can someone explain the differences if any?

I bought a Blu-ray player yesterday to replace a non-functioning DVD recorder. Just curious if replacing some of my favorite movies in blu-ray format is worthwhile or should I just stick to buying new movies in this format?

My TV is a Samsung 50" DLP HDTV. The input from the Blu-ray player is HDMI.
 

Slick5150

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The DVD will be 480p upscaled to 1080p, meaning its taking something with 480 lines of resolution and turning it into a video with 1080 lines of resolution. Compare that to a Blu-Ray, which is recorded in 1080p already, meaning the source material has far greater resolution than the DVD does.

Now, in a real world comparison, the difference can range from slight, to great, and whether its worthwhile to you or not is individual preference.

Personally, I'm of the mindset that it isn't worth the money to replace a DVD you already own with a Blu-Ray, as a DVD played on a good upscaling player will look very good. For future purchases, sure, might as well get the Blu-Ray.

My suggestion would be to rent a movie you already own on DVD in Blu-Ray, and do a comparison yourself. See if the difference makes you think re-buying the movie again would be a worthwhile purchase.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
The DVD will be 480p upscaled to 1080p, meaning its taking something with 480 lines of resolution and turning it into a video with 1080 lines of resolution. Compare that to a Blu-Ray, which is recorded in 1080p already, meaning the source material has far greater resolution than the DVD does.

Now, in a real world comparison, the difference can range from slight, to great, and whether its worthwhile to you or not is individual preference.

Personally, I'm of the mindset that it isn't worth the money to replace a DVD you already own with a Blu-Ray, as a DVD played on a good upscaling player will look very good. For future purchases, sure, might as well get the Blu-Ray.

My suggestion would be to rent a movie you already own on DVD in Blu-Ray, and do a comparison yourself. See if the difference makes you think re-buying the movie again would be a worthwhile purchase.

I bought Iron Man in Blu-Ray format yesterday and that movie looks absolutely stunning IMO.

That's a good idea about the rental. I might have to do that.

Thanks! :beer:

I did a quick search and found this website which has some direct comparison screen shots of some movies in DVD format and then in Blu-Ray format and the difference is quite noticeable.
 

JackBurton

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The answer is a little more complicated than you think. Like Slick5150 said, the difference could range from slight to great. The reason for that being is, not all Blu-ray movies are created equal. It is up to the studio on how good the transfer will be. Some Blu-ray transfers are crap, which are just a step above an upscaled DVD, and others are amazing! So you really need to do a little research before buying a Blu-ray movie. Here is a good rating system you can refer to.
 
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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

I bought Iron Man in Blu-Ray format yesterday and that movie looks absolutely stunning IMO.

That's a good idea about the rental. I might have to do that.

Thanks! :beer:

I did a quick search and found this website which has some direct comparison screen shots of some movies in DVD format and then in Blu-Ray format and the difference is quite noticeable.

excellent comparison pics.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
The answer is a little more complicated than you think. Like Slick5150 said, the difference could range from slight to great. The reason for that being is, not all Blu-ray movies are created equal. It is up to the studio on how good the transfer will be. Some Blu-ray transfers are crap, which are just a step above an upscaled DVD, and others are amazing! So you really need to do a little research before buying a Blu-ray movie. Here is a good rating system you can refer to.

Excellent link. I guess if the movie falls into the silver list (maybe, bronze definitely) or below and I already own the DVD there is really no reason to buy the movie on Blu-ray.
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Slick5150
The DVD will be 480p upscaled to 1080p, meaning its taking something with 480 lines of resolution and turning it into a video with 1080 lines of resolution. Compare that to a Blu-Ray, which is recorded in 1080p already, meaning the source material has far greater resolution than the DVD does.

Now, in a real world comparison, the difference can range from slight, to great, and whether its worthwhile to you or not is individual preference.

Personally, I'm of the mindset that it isn't worth the money to replace a DVD you already own with a Blu-Ray, as a DVD played on a good upscaling player will look very good. For future purchases, sure, might as well get the Blu-Ray.

My suggestion would be to rent a movie you already own on DVD in Blu-Ray, and do a comparison yourself. See if the difference makes you think re-buying the movie again would be a worthwhile purchase.

I bought Iron Man in Blu-Ray format yesterday and that movie looks absolutely stunning IMO.
That's a good idea about the rental. I might have to do that.

Thanks! :beer:

I did a quick search and found this website which has some direct comparison screen shots of some movies in DVD format and then in Blu-Ray format and the difference is quite noticeable.

The problem with looking at comparison photos like that is that they don't represent real world viewing conditions. When you're sitting 10 feet away from the screen, odds are the differences that you're seeing won't be nearly as noticable. Im certainly not saying you aren't going to see a differnece, it just likely won't be as big as you'd think when looking at those pics.

 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Slick5150
The DVD will be 480p upscaled to 1080p, meaning its taking something with 480 lines of resolution and turning it into a video with 1080 lines of resolution. Compare that to a Blu-Ray, which is recorded in 1080p already, meaning the source material has far greater resolution than the DVD does.

Now, in a real world comparison, the difference can range from slight, to great, and whether its worthwhile to you or not is individual preference.

Personally, I'm of the mindset that it isn't worth the money to replace a DVD you already own with a Blu-Ray, as a DVD played on a good upscaling player will look very good. For future purchases, sure, might as well get the Blu-Ray.

My suggestion would be to rent a movie you already own on DVD in Blu-Ray, and do a comparison yourself. See if the difference makes you think re-buying the movie again would be a worthwhile purchase.

I bought Iron Man in Blu-Ray format yesterday and that movie looks absolutely stunning IMO.
That's a good idea about the rental. I might have to do that.

Thanks! :beer:

I did a quick search and found this website which has some direct comparison screen shots of some movies in DVD format and then in Blu-Ray format and the difference is quite noticeable.

The problem with looking at comparison photos like that is that they don't represent real world viewing conditions. When you're sitting 10 feet away from the screen, odds are the differences that you're seeing won't be nearly as noticable. Im certainly not saying you aren't going to see a differnece, it just likely won't be as big as you'd think when looking at those pics.

Well also keep in mind display size.
If you are 10ft away from a 32" set, you'll notice far less detail, but you'll still see it is overall sharper.
If you sit 10ft" away from a 40"+ set, you'll notice plenty of differences in detail, especially the larger you go (especially at 1080p).

My 32" LCD is 720p, and I have my PS3 for BD playback. Depending on whether it's at home during the summer or at school, the furthest I ever sit back from it is about 7ft. I see a LOT of detail that I don't see on upscaled DVDs, although I cannot lie, on the movies I already own on DVD, the upscale does a good enough job, at least until BDs cost the same as cheap DVDs. Thankfully, it seems easy to now obtain many older movies on BD for about $13 (Costco prices for some older titles from certain studios, and the MSRP about $17 for those titles). So, prices are slowly coming down, but probably not for awhile for new releases. Although it's absurd setting a $35+ MSRP for new-releases... considering actual BD production is actually cheaper than DVD... this is both companies trying to recover the extra costs for buying BD production equipment, and because "It's HD! We can charge high prices because it's special!"
I hate that shit. And we still buy it up, because we drool over HD and have no choice, and the studios know this. :(

So in short - while I can agree upscaled DVDs look good, much better than letting the TV upscale (at least with the PS3, which has a great upscaler, then again, I am limiting to 720p so less upscaling is necessary), I'd definitely rather own titles on BD, although I do seem to limit purchases of BD titles to those that reviews state are a good picture (and even then, I own some that definitely don't as great as others).
All future purchases are definitely going to be BD, if I ever replace my DVDs, it'll be far down the road and likely only the titles I specifically would enjoy watching at least a few more times.
I have purchased Tears of the Sun on BD, even when I own the DVD. Worthwhile imho - looks great! I plan on getting V For Vendetta as well (again, own the DVD). Other titles I'll likely just rent if I really want to rewatch it in good HD if its a great HD transfer but don't expect to watch numerous times.

But I'll argue in real world comparisons, at least on my 32" 720p LCD from about 7ft away, is definitely noticeable and I can definitely see more detail.
But in regards to worth with titles already owned... up to the individual, as not all my titles are worthwhile (or even available :eek:).

I am hoping The Matrix is released stand-alone. While the two sequels are enjoyable enough just for the sci-fi lore and action, they aren't ones I really want to own, and don't plan on purchasing the BD pack. I just want the first one. :)
 

vi edit

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About the only movies I would consider repurchasing would be ones that were true epic films that brought with them excellent transfers and sound mastering.

Lord of the Rings (assuming they don't botch the transfer) will probably be one of the few that I will go out and rebuy.

I would also consider kids movies being that Blu-Ray has a pretty resilient coating on the disk and may take abuse a little better than DVD's. But with a DVD at least I can give the kids a "backup" copy to destroy and keep the original safe. So that may be a moot point.

 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: vi edit
About the only movies I would consider repurchasing would be ones that were true epic films that brought with them excellent transfers and sound mastering.

Lord of the Rings (assuming they don't botch the transfer) will probably be one of the few that I will go out and rebuy.

I would also consider kids movies being that Blu-Ray has a pretty resilient coating on the disk and may take abuse a little better than DVD's. But with a DVD at least I can give the kids a "backup" copy to destroy and keep the original safe. So that may be a moot point.

I would definitely buy the LOTR trilogy on Blu-Ray even though I already own it on DVD.

A couple other films I think I'd buy are Braveheart (but I don't think it's out on BD yet) and Gladiator. Maybe Saving Private Ryan too.
 

RKS

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Originally posted by: vi edit
About the only movies I would consider repurchasing would be ones that were true epic films that brought with them excellent transfers and sound mastering.

Lord of the Rings (assuming they don't botch the transfer) will probably be one of the few that I will go out and rebuy.

I would also consider kids movies being that Blu-Ray has a pretty resilient coating on the disk and may take abuse a little better than DVD's. But with a DVD at least I can give the kids a "backup" copy to destroy and keep the original safe. So that may be a moot point.

My wife buys most Disney/Pixar/children's animation movies and they go straight to my computer to get backed up and are never in dvd player. I am actually building an HTPC so we can start buying BRD and backing them up on to a HDD. The kids will have a library available to them during the few times they are allowed in to watch tv.
 

abaez

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I have to say the Kill Bill BR is awesome. When she pulls up to Verita Green's house, the colors.. oh my goodness. Such a difference from the DVD. I'd love a BR of Amelie as well.

Pushing Daisies S1 is awesome as well.
 

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Just don't take the AVS tier thread as a definitive guide, though. And certainly don't buy or refuse to buy based solely on its ranking.
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Just don't take the AVS tier thread as a definitive guide, though. And certainly don't buy or refuse to buy based solely on its ranking.

This.

And, High-Def Digest is a good resource for reviews. They review the movie itself, but more importantly review Video and Audio quality, as well as extras and High-def exclusives.
 

newnameman

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: cubby1223
Just don't take the AVS tier thread as a definitive guide, though. And certainly don't buy or refuse to buy based solely on its ranking.

This.

And, High-Def Digest is a good resource for reviews. They review the movie itself, but more importantly review Video and Audio quality, as well as extras and High-def exclusives.
LOL, High-Def Digest is a joke as far reviewing video and audio quality goes. They've given high scores to some of the worst Blu-rays suffering from massive DNR. You're better off going to AVS and checking out the screencap threads.
 

Shadowknight

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
Just don't take the AVS tier thread as a definitive guide, though. And certainly don't buy or refuse to buy based solely on its ranking.

And don't always listen to the whining about DNR, either. If a movie has even a little bit, which isn't even noticable unless you screencap a scene and stare at it for 5 minutes, then they throw a fit. On the otherhand, there was so much DNR in Evil Dead II that screencaps of the DVD showed more detail than the blu-ray.