Question about Blu-Ray discs

StrangeRanger

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No, I didn't ask that right. What I mean is, how can they take like old movies that were in no way filmed or recorded in high-def or whatever and re-release them on blu-balls disc? How can they be better when they were filmed/recorded w/ inferior equipment?
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rivan

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Originally posted by: StrangeRanger
No, I didn't ask that right. What I mean is, how can they take like old movies that were in no way filmed or recorded in high-def or whatever and re-release them on blu-balls disc? How can they be better when they were filmed/recorded w/ inferior equipment?
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Balr0g

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Film has much better resolution than you think.

They just couldn't show the full resolution of film on any home theater equipment because it would take too much space - wouldn't fit on normal DVD's, etc.
 

ElFenix

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35 mm film has more resolution a blu ray disc can present.

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Jeff7181

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Originally posted by: StrangeRanger
No, I didn't ask that right. What I mean is, how can they take like old movies that were in no way filmed or recorded in high-def or whatever and re-release them on blu-balls disc? How can they be better when they were filmed/recorded w/ inferior equipment?
j

The same way 35mm cameras made 50 years ago produce better picture quality than some digital cameras today.
 

destrekor

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Film has a theoretical resolution much greater than current HD standards.
The only problem is with older movies, the master film tends to degrade over time and the transfer to HD tends to result in a soft picture.

Many of the movies on Blu-ray were actually shot in film. Movies shot in digital are still rather rare, because film truly has higher image definition, and thus likely allows for more control in the editing room.
The 4K HD cameras will most definitely replace film for movies, because it is suggested that 4K pretty much matches film's resolution potential.
 

bonkers325

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film resolution is better than 1920x1080 resolution. but it will still have that film grain texture
 

destrekor

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Originally posted by: bonkers325
film resolution is better than 1920x1080 resolution. but it will still have that film grain texture

I both like and dislike that texture, all depending on how prevalent it is. Minimal grain provides a lovely and striking image imho, whereas too much grain degrades the picture and makes it appear soft, and a digital image with no grain can appear sterile and removes the pop. I dunno what it is, but a film that has just a little grain, helps provoke the '3D' effect in quality HD video.
 

0roo0roo

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film is scanned at 4k+
film has higher resolution that hd.
even old things like startrek the original tv series benefit as it was filmed in film.
 

sivart

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Originally posted by: destrekor
Originally posted by: bonkers325
film resolution is better than 1920x1080 resolution. but it will still have that film grain texture

I both like and dislike that texture, all depending on how prevalent it is. Minimal grain provides a lovely and striking image imho, whereas too much grain degrades the picture and makes it appear soft, and a digital image with no grain can appear sterile and removes the pop. I dunno what it is, but a film that has just a little grain, helps provoke the '3D' effect in quality HD video.


I'll take grain over macroblocking any day. (Hence the problem with streaming video over the internet and dark scenes).
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: StrangeRanger
No, I didn't ask that right. What I mean is, how can they take like old movies that were in no way filmed or recorded in high-def or whatever and re-release them on blu-balls disc? How can they be better when they were filmed/recorded w/ inferior equipment?
j


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false. 35mm print, or even 70mm is in no way inferior to digital cameras. Likely even better.

I'm sure this question has already been answered though...

even current gen HD cameras have that resolution limit. Real film does not.
 

erwos

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OTOH, 16mm does not, in fact, have all that much resolution. That's why the first few seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer on DVD look like horrific VCR captures.