Question about aftermarket CPU cooler

blackangst1

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Hey gang. Im thinking of getting an aftermarket CPU cooler for my i7 3770k. It is currently the loudest fan in my system and during some gaming that thing is maxed out. Sounds like its gonna take off!!!

Ive read several articles about coolers but really it seems theres no clear cut winner as to quietest, coolest, most reasonably priced.

Im currently looking at these 3, although Im open for suggestions. Any help would be appreciated! Also, any advice and tips.

Hardware:
i7 3770k
MSI Z77A G43 mobo
Fractal Design Define R5 case

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

Noctua NH-U12

Arctic Freezer Low Noise

edit: Im not overclocking
 

Ed1

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Hey gang. Im thinking of getting an aftermarket CPU cooler for my i7 3770k. It is currently the loudest fan in my system and during some gaming that thing is maxed out. Sounds like its gonna take off!!!

Ive read several articles about coolers but really it seems theres no clear cut winner as to quietest, coolest, most reasonably priced.

Im currently looking at these 3, although Im open for suggestions. Any help would be appreciated! Also, any advice and tips.

Hardware:
i7 3770k
MSI Z77A G43 mobo
Fractal Design Define R5 case

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo

Noctua NH-U12

Arctic Freezer Low Noise

edit: Im not overclocking
If your not OC, CM 212 evo is best bang for buck .
It won't be most quiet compare to Noctua but it will handle cooling of i7 well , even mild to mid OC .
You can setup a fan profile in most bios to get sound levels were you want it, or fan software .
That said the NH-U12 are very good too, along with NH-U14S (one of best single tower IMO ) .
Overall 212 evo should do you well for small investment .
Out of box the NH-12 would be best if priority is quietness IMO.
 

ignatzatsonic

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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u12s_u14s_review,7.html

Above link tests a 3770K with both the Hyper 212 EVO and the Noctua U12S.

At 21 degrees ambient, stock clocks, here are the temps realized:

Hyper 212 EVO: idle 27, load 58
Noctua U12S: idle 28, load 53

The Noctua probably wouldn't be noticeably quieter at idle, but you might notice lower noise levels at load, depending on your case.

Make sure your case is wide enough---the Noctua U12S requires at least 158mm; not sure about the Hyper 212. If you need a shorter cooler and like Noctua, look at the LH-12.

I bought a U12S about 2 months ago, new on Ebay, for $51 shipped. It's worth a look there. No regrets. The Noctua mounting system is very good and that alone would be enough reason to choose it. Plus you get a tube of their excellent thermal paste, a low-noise adapter, and extra fan clips should you ever want to add a second fan.
 
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BonzaiDuck

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Without overclocking, the temperature summary from the guru3D article linked by Ignatzatsonic means that any of those coolers would be superb.

With some mild overclocking, any of those coolers would still be at least adequate. A 5C performance difference could shrink a C with greater OC'd power consumption, but it could be an important consideration.

I suspect that the Arctic cooler might be the noisiest of the three, only because it has a 92mm fan. There's a million ways -- at least a few anyway -- to fix that and squeeze every last degree Celsius out of the little ff . . . featsink . . .
 
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cbn

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http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/noctua_nh_u12s_u14s_review,7.html

Above link tests a 3770K with both the Hyper 212 EVO and the Noctua U12S.

At 21 degrees ambient, stock clocks, here are the temps realized:

Hyper 212 EVO: idle 27, load 58
Noctua U12S: idle 28, load 53

The Noctua probably wouldn't be noticeably quieter at idle, but you might notice lower noise levels at load, depending on your case.

I wonder how much of the noise difference at load between Hyper 212 and Noctua U12S is simply due to the difference in supplied fans?
 

cbn

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Here is the fan that comes with the U12S CPU cooler:

Noctua NF-F12 PWM Cooling Fan

http://www.amazon.com/Noctua-NF-F12-PWM-Cooling-Fan/dp/B00650P2ZC

35-608-026-TS


Its $21 shipped.

It would be interesting to see a comparo of Hyper 212 Plus (or Evo) vs. U12S when both are equipped with this fan.
 
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crashtech

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The Hyper 212 Evo is more than enough cooler for a stock clocked 3770K. What's nice about it is that it's so inexpensive you can even upgrade to a quieter fan if necessary and still be money ahead. Also, you may have some means of controlling your CPU fan in the BIOS, slightly reducing the fan speed can sometimes reduce noise quite nicely without resulting in excessive temps. Do you know your temps under load now?
 

ignatzatsonic

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http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1343-page5.html

The above review of the Noctua U12S says that the included NF-F12 fan isn't particularly quiet, at least for the tested sample. Maybe quieter than the Coolermaster fan, but not among Noctua's best for noise purposes.

Having said that--I've got 2 of those fans. One on a U12S and one as an intake fan--even though it isn't designed to be an intake fan. Both connected to the CPU fan port via a splitter. I have no complaints at all about noise and I'm pretty fussy about that.

I suspect the perceived noise in any given installation is mostly correlated to observed RPM---which is related to load and fan speed control settings, whether in the BIOS or via software. I've got my BIOS fan controls set to the quietest possible mode and the Noctua NF-F12s normally spin around 500 rpm and even under Prime 95 never go above 875---on a non-overclocked i5-2500. The hottest core peaks at 67 degrees on Prime 95.

This is all in a warm room---27C/81F ambient.
 
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cbn

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You tube review of Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo comparing stock fan to Noctua NF-F12 PWM Cooling Fan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKHD1pQJN9U

During Prime 95 (large FFT), the reviewer said the Noctua was noticeably quieter although the temps on the Coolermaster stock fan were lower (51C vs. 56C at load) . He did note, however, that when the Coolermaster and Noctua fans spun at the same RPM the difference in temps were negligible and the Noctua was quieter.
 

daveybrat

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My recommendation is biased as i have the Hyper 212 EVO. Awesome heatsink/fan that is both extremely quiet and a great cooler.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Maybe I've used the bundled fans with coolers 30 or 40% of the time. The rest of the installations I've done used a fan of my own choosing, whether I planned to do so in advance, or as an adjustment to a dissatisfactory stock fan.

So I don't pay much attention to what the reviews say about dBA ratings for a cooler that's all tricked out in it's original fan choices. And mostly I just look at cooler performance for "12V" or "high-speed" setting to see what it can do in the review rank-order. The right cooler and the right fan usually give me what I want out of the purchase(s).

Now . . . it's also true that some heatpipe cooler designs may transmit sound better than another cooler. But that sort of noise can also be . . . expunged. It's even possible to fit a 140mm fan to a cooler made for a 120.
 

blackangst1

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Thanks for all your input guys. I had some points to burn, so although the Noctua NH-U12S was marginally better on benches, I paid the premium for it. Should have it this week. And my understanding is it'll be easier to install as well.
 
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Essence_of_War

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It would be interesting to see a comparo of Hyper 212 Plus (or Evo) vs. U12S when both are equipped with this fan.

I swapped my Evo stock fan with the NF-A15 (140mm but w/ 120mm mounting holes)

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2398802&highlight=

The Evo stock fan is inaudible under light loads, noticeably loud even compared with the GPU fans when gaming, and particularly annoying under CPU-only loads. The NF-A15 is a few C colder at the same multiplier/voltage settings, and I can't hear it over my ambient noise level under ANY type of load.
 

BonzaiDuck

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I swapped my Evo stock fan with the NF-A15 (140mm but w/ 120mm mounting holes)

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2398802&highlight=

The Evo stock fan is inaudible under light loads, noticeably loud even compared with the GPU fans when gaming, and particularly annoying under CPU-only loads. The NF-A15 is a few C colder at the same multiplier/voltage settings, and I can't hear it over my ambient noise level under ANY type of load.

There's an Akasa Viper "140R" (for "round") like that, but it will push 110 CFM. I've plenty of Noctua fans, but the Akasa seemed to produce no more noise. If it did -- I couldn't hear it.
 

Ketchup

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I have the 212 evo, and it is a good cooler, but I tend to find the youtube video very believable: it comes with a decent fan, but I do believe a better fan (like the Noctua) would give better noise to temperature performance. If I was overclocking my 4790k, I would definitely upgrade at last the fan.
 

crashtech

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I put a couple of Cougar fans on my 212 Evo in push/pull and it was quiet and effective. The stock fan on it is fairly cheap, but what could be expected for the price?
 

ehume

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This review, dudes. This will help other readers, since OP has bought his.

That said, I'm partial to Noctuas. Set an NH-D15 or an NH-D15S with fans on the low noise adapter and you will never hear it. Or try a used NH-D14 without any fans, if you're going to avoid overclocking.

I ditched my Arctic because the 92mm fan was too loud -- and this was years ago. I general, count the heatpipes on a cooler. That will tell you how well it will do.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Some 8 years ago, Anandtech produced a comprehensive comparison review of just about every cooler on the market. Such things can be updated; even different test-beds can be "normalized" to make comparisons to old platforms, but the main factor in a nutshell is the processor load wattage.

A review of some nine items doesn't provide thorough enough information to assure that the best-performing coolers are even in the sample mix. Other times, I'd seen enough to raise suspicion of a sort of "payola-in-kind," when a major computer magazine compared some seven or eight coolers, picked a "Kickass 9" winner, and then presented a two-page color advertisement for the winning cooler on the pages just following the review. "You buy my advertising; I'll scratch your back." Coolers that had been part of a discussion frenzy among enthusiasts touting their phenomenal performance weren't included.

So it pays to consult several comparison reviews. The results are rank-ordered by cooler; the test-bed specs are published; apply deductive logic to how three coolers are treated in two reviews when each review only covers two coolers. You would then be able to build your own comprehensive list of statistics: Ambient, Idle and Load temperatures; bundled fan dBA ratings; change in C between either of the first two and Load temperatures. Some tests report Ambient that can vary over a range of 5 or 10C. You can normalize for Ambient to rank-order the performance of different coolers tested in different ambient conditions.

The test-beds would need to match in thermal wattage. Some reviews test at stock settings for idle and load comparisons; they all usually report the performance statistics for overclock settings. Most of them report thermal wattage. You could even extrapolate for comparison, because thermal wattage affects magnitudes of improvement. For instance, a TIM improves load temperature by X-degrees C on one test-bed @ 100W. You might expect an improvement of only X - n degrees for a wattage of 130.

And if you have tried a handful of coolers over the years, you can throw your own observations into the mix. Maybe you didn't save log-files for spreadsheet analysis -- an easy thing to do if you chose to do it. But you'd have a memory of things like a lead or highest-core sensor reading, perhaps a vague average, the range of values across the cores at a point in time and so on.