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RSMemphis

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Heh! A solid state drive. Those used to be the rage.

Today, I think it is cheaper and almost as fast to have a RAID 0+1 array. Plus much safer.
 
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sleefer

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Nah, buy youself an extra stick of RAM and make youself a RAM drive it's far cheaper.
 
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iwearnosox

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I'm creating my own storage technology from bagels and pennies. It's reliable but not compatible with atkins brand pc's.
 
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Jono182

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this stuff is hella fast! ever wonder how google is able to process your searches so quickly through their vast index? you got your answer right here.
 
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VisionsUCI

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is the bottleneck for a search engine really the server-side hard drive? i'm not sure about that
 
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Swanny

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LOL.

Notice the picture
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After I saw this I got to thinking about building a IDE RAID system with flash ram. It seems like it's possible. There are compactflash readers that hook up to IDE connectors so you could just buy 8 of these and buy an big raid card and buy 8 512mb flash cards. It would cost more ~$2500 but you'd have a lightning speed 4GB drive!
 
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samyboy

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Three-five years later we all can have fun thinking that it costed so much in 2002. 1/10th of this money may by us 20GB of solid state drive then...
 
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dscline

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
After I saw this I got to thinking about building a IDE RAID system with flash ram. It seems like it's possible. There are compactflash readers that hook up to IDE connectors so you could just buy 8 of these and buy an big raid card and buy 8 512mb flash cards. It would cost more ~$2500 but you'd have a lightning speed 4GB drive!
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Um, flash cards aren't really all that fast. Not as fast as a good hard drive, and not nearly as fast as standard ram.
 
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IgoByte

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Not so long ago, I read about a PCI adapter that can support up to 4GB of PC133 SDRAM.
It's fast and expensive, but personally, I'd still just go with nice fast HDDs. This technology is still very immature and is unable to reap the benefits working off the PCI bus, etc.
 
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Originally posted by: IgoByte
Not so long ago, I read about a PCI adapter that can support up to 4GB of PC133 SDRAM.
It's fast and expensive, but personally, I'd still just go with nice fast HDDs. This technology is still very immature and is unable to reap the benefits working off the PCI bus, etc.
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Plus wont you lose all the data when you turn off the computer since you are using SDRAM
 
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DaiShan

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Originally posted by: RSMemphis
Heh! A solid state drive. Those used to be the rage.

Today, I think it is cheaper and almost as fast to have a RAID 0+1 array. Plus much safer.
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That statement is incorrect in its entirety, ever compared RAM access times to a standard HDD? What about raw bandwidth? Notice the change in terms that they use to measure each device. Oh another thing, solid state drives provide an infinitely higher ammount of data integrity, no moving parts greatly decreases the chance that you will lose data due to the most common cause of hard drive failure (mechanical malfunction)

 
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Jugernot

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
After I saw this I got to thinking about building a IDE RAID system with flash ram. It seems like it's possible. There are compactflash readers that hook up to IDE connectors so you could just buy 8 of these and buy an big raid card and buy 8 512mb flash cards. It would cost more ~$2500 but you'd have a lightning speed 4GB drive!
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Actually even if you had 8, it would suck... flash memory maxes out at a few megs per second...
 
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DaiShan

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Originally posted by: heat23
Originally posted by: IgoByte
Not so long ago, I read about a PCI adapter that can support up to 4GB of PC133 SDRAM.
It's fast and expensive, but personally, I'd still just go with nice fast HDDs. This technology is still very immature and is unable to reap the benefits working off the PCI bus, etc.
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Plus wont you lose all the data when you turn off the computer since you are using SDRAM
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I'm sure they use a battery backup system similar to those in use in storing the BIOS on the CMOS chip.

 
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zephyrprime

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Um, flash cards aren't really all that fast. Not as fast as a good hard drive, and not nearly as fast as standard ram.
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That's why they'd have to be in a striped raid array. The throughput still wouldn't be as high as a hard drive but it would have super fast access speed.
 
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jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: heat23
Originally posted by: IgoByte
Not so long ago, I read about a PCI adapter that can support up to 4GB of PC133 SDRAM.
It's fast and expensive, but personally, I'd still just go with nice fast HDDs. This technology is still very immature and is unable to reap the benefits working off the PCI bus, etc.
Click to expand...

Plus wont you lose all the data when you turn off the computer since you are using SDRAM
Click to expand...
I'm sure they use a battery backup system similar to those in use in storing the BIOS on the CMOS chip.
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I don't know about that - that would mean 4GB of backup battery space. The battery that saves the CMOS settings is way <1MB in size. Not to mention the need to transfer up to the full 4GB of data everytime you power down (which would take a long time).
 
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GetReal

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Originally posted by: zephyrprime
Um, flash cards aren't really all that fast. Not as fast as a good hard drive, and not nearly as fast as standard ram.
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That's why they'd have to be in a striped raid array. The through still wouldn't be as high as a hard drive but it would super fast access speed.
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Attempting to use CF or other current technology digital memory media as a randon access storage device is simply naive. Besides the fact that digital media is extremely slow relative to current hard drive technology, the most inhibiting factor of digial media is its limited writing and erasing capability. Most digital media is rated between 100,000 and 300,000 cycles over the lifetime of the media. While that may seem like a lot and is more than sufficient in limited use devices such as digial cameras. using digial media as a hard drive substitute would prove extremeley expensive when you consider the average computer hard drive does thousands of read/write operations each day.
 
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sxr7171

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To tell you the truth, I've spent the last hour looking for a thread on the issue of solid state memory that was discussed in the "Highly Technical" forum on Anandtech. i'm glad that 'seanthedealliker' found some info on the issue. I will still try to find that thread and post a link here.
 
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