Quality of Sceptre LCDs? Gosharkss - I need you!

Rhombuss

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Anyone have experience with Sceptre LCDs? I've checked their site, and the Agama and Iguana series seem to have very respectable specifications. Local stores also stock them and offer them at lower prices than Samsung and NEC equivalent sizes. I'm mainly looking at the X7-Agama, or X7-Iguana. Any experiences and/or opinions? I know Sceptre is an old company, and I remember they were one of the first to get LCDs into the mainstream, just haven't heard anything much about them in the past 2 years.

 

GrumpyMan

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I haven't seen Gosharks post as much as he used to here anymore. I think someone offended him kind of in one thread when they dissed his company. Can't blame him. Anyway sorry I can't help you with that monitor.
 

Rhombuss

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D'oh...

I always turned to Gosh for monitor advice. Hopefully he'll visit and see this thread ;). But back to the topic...anyone else have insight?
 

Rhombuss

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Really? What's wrong with the gaming aspect Mo? I checked the specs and it's listed as having 25ms response time, so I don't think ghosting is too much of an issue.

Can you tell me about the other qualities of the Sceptre display? IE. bright colours, nice contrast, dead pixels?
Any info would help, thanks :).
 

MoMeanMugs

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It's nice and bright. I like the colors over my Philips 105B2 15" LCD monitor. I have developed 1 dead pixel but I don't notice it unless it is over a white background. As for the gaming, yes it has a 25ms response time. It ghosts pretty bad in Counter-Strike (which I recently stopped playing). In Quake 3, I notice no ghosting whatsoever. The only game it was noticable in was CS. Go figure. It is a very good investment if you get one. I didn't mean to dog it. I was kinda vague at first. If you get one, I am confident you will be pleased with it. LMK if you have anymore questions. BTW, it is hooked to my Radeon 8500 via DVI and it's as crisp as the pizza I left out on my stove last night. :D
 

Rhombuss

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Sweet...I'm also going to hook it up via DVI on my Radeon 8500. Thanks for the input Mo ;).
 

Rhombuss

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Hey Mo,

I went to a local computer store, and they had the X7-Komodo series on display. Although it is a lower end model, I thought it would be a representation of Sceptre's LCD quality. When I checked it out, the display was AWFUL. The colours were dull, the screen wasn't close to being bright, and the text was all blurry. I was thinking that it might have been the store's setup, because there was no way ANY company could've released an LCD so terrible.

I looked at their computer setup, they were running a system with an integrated Intel video GPU, and they used a VGA hub to split the signal to 6 different monitors. First of all, integrated video GPUs aren't that great, and they're generally not recommended for resolutions above 1024x768, but this Sceptre LCD is specified for native resolution of 1280x1024. They also had a Samsung 760 LCD running on a separate computer with a GeForce 4, and that LCD looked great.

Mo, could you tell me how good the colour contrast, brightness, and text clarity is on your Sceptre? And if you've had the chance to compare it to NEC and Samsung monitors, how well does it stack up to them? I'm probably going to go back to the store tomorrow, and ask if I could switch the Sceptre onto the comp with the GeForce 4 and see if there's an improvement. BTW - which X9G do you have? The Agama, Iguana, Komodo, or Naga series?

Thanks!
 

Gosharkss

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I?m here and I?m not mad at anyone. Simply been very busy lately. Also you guys have been doing such a good job of answering questions, no need for me to jump in.

I saw your other post about Sceptre and Planar also and it relates to this thread. First lets clear up a few things. Sceptre is a daughter company to a Taiwan company named Compal. The Compal factory is in China near Shanghai. Compal is an OEM manufacture that manufactures primarily monitors, laptops and Cell phones. They make monitors for Hitachi, NEC/Mitsubishi, Cornerstone and obviously Sceptre. Although I cannot confirm the odds are they do make some Planar models.

When I inspected the Compal factory during me vendor approval process. I found it to be a world class organization. Modern tools and alignment equipment, ISO processes in place etc.

The Sceptre band has been around for a long time, and in general they are respected in the industry. With any manufacture they have a wide variety of products ranging from High to low end. However I have found that the products shown in local stores tend to be the lower end products with price as the #1 selling feature. Personally I would not past judgment on a company based on what you see in a local store.

 

Apex

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The issue with the Sceptre X7 and gaming is the same as with the Planar PV174. The MVA panels that they use have great total average response time specs (25ms rise and fall), but on the practical end, they seem to have a problem with the fall end of things (white to black). Because of this, they seem to ghost a lot in 3d games.
 

Rhombuss

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Apex, if you have any experience with the Sceptre X7 (Agama or Iguana) series, please post your thoughts about it here! :)
 

camara120

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It looks like some of the Sceptres have to be the same as the Planars. Compare the following:

Planar WS231
Sceptre X23-s

They look like theyre in the exact same shell. Also, the specs are almost the same. The only strange thing is that some of the specs are swapped...

Planar shows the Response time to be 15msrise/10ms fall. Sceptre shows the Response time to be 10msrise/15ms fall.

One difference is that the Sceptre shows the Contrast Ratio to be 500:1 while the Planar shows 400:1.

Can anyone explain the differences? Do you think the LCD actually *is* different?
 

Gosharkss

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The only difference is the marketing department swapping numbers. There is only one manufactuer of the 23.1 inch LCD panel and that is Fujitsu. The panels at least are identical. How do I know? I use the same 23.1 inch panel in my f2300 monitor.
 

camara120

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gosharks... how do you like your f2300? have you used it on counterstrike at all? and if so, how does it perform?

I was trying to decide between the screen on that one and a 21.3" Samsung 211MP.

Can you make any comparisons/recommendations on those two screens?

Thanks!
 

Gosharkss

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Sorry, but I'm not a gamer, so I have no clue what it looks like in Counterstrike. Also I never recommend LCD monitors to gamers. I would love to sell you a monitor however there is no guarantee that you will not get ghosting or other artifacts in games because there are simply to many variables involved. Do yourself a favor and buy a nice 21? CRT monitor. These are much better for games.

 

camara120

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well... Im a very light gamer... so most of the time Ill just be browsing the web and things like that. A little ghosting wont kill me... I just want the game play to be bearable.

Aside from gaming.... how would you rate the 2 screens i mentioned?
 

Gosharkss

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I?m not going to rate my f2300 because I?m biased and would give it a great review.

Not having reviewed the 211MP myself I cannot say for certain however there are some red flags I would investigate before you give them your credit card.

Dead Pixel spec / Guarantee

Product home page says DVI however detailed specs say analog, if it really is analog only avoid it.

If you want to watch DVD?s etc. buy the 241MP the aspect ratio is all wrong on the 211MP and HDTV will need to scale which causes loss of image quality. Same goes for my f2300 BTW.

Personally I do not like the stand design, looks cheap (personal preference)

TCO 95 compliance, most LCD?s comply to the latest TCO-99 standard. I?ll bet it does not comply due to the design of the stand. Requirements are it must tilt and swivel. Looks like the stand design does not allow swivel. Not a big deal, but I?m picky.

In general specs look very impressive especially the 500:1 contrast ratio and wide 170 degree viewing angles.

Only a 3 year warranty

Says its wall mountable, but is it VESA compliant for wall mount arms? Spec is not clear.

 

RemyCanad

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I don't know much about LCDs so when I went to help my friend buy one we just headed out to the local bestbuy. All the monitors were hooked up to a VGA spliter as you discribed the ones you looked at were. I noticed the same problem as you stated. So I asked them if I could hook it directly up the there computer. They said it was caused my the florecent lights! They tried to show me when they pulled it off the shelf that had the lights above it, it fixed it. Well it did nothing. So wondered around and then came back. I then proceded to get a card. Unplug the Samsung LCD we were looking at push it on over to the alienware computer they had setup to demo. Plugged it all up and played some games on it. Lucky we liked it and when the best buy people came a knocking we were able to get out of any trouble by not allowing them to say anything. The walked up a bit angry we proceded to tell them we wanted to buy this monitor. They then became happy enough and all was good.
 

Rhombuss

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Gosh: Any insight you can provide me in comparing the Sceptre/Planar LCD quality with that of Samsung (specifically 171S models)?