Quality of life: Seattle vs. Silicon Valley?

shuttleboi

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I'm trying to weigh software engineering offers from Microsoft (in Redmond/Bellevue) and Yahoo (Silicon Valley). The jobs are comparable, as are the salaries (i.e. a sh1tload). Does anyone have any first-hand experience with the difference in quality-of-life?

I'll admit I am looking to find a long-term relationship, so the quality and quantity of eligible women are nothing to scoff at. The Silicon Valley singles scene is horrible. And then this interesting statistic from wikipedia caught my eye:

King County, where Microsoft is at:
For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 97.30 males.

Santa Clara County, where Yahoo is at:
For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 101.90 males.

I'm hoping the women up in Seattle are a bit more down-to-earth and not so obsessed with money, SUVs, and spawning.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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I'm moving to Seattle in about 3 weeks, so you should move to Silicon Valley. :p

EDIT: On a serious note, I think that women on average are better looking in California than Washington. There's a lot of mullet-haired flannel-wearin' women in Washington.

<---- grew up in Spokane, presently residing in Los Angeles.
 

shopbruin

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as someone who grew up in the silicon valley, you're looking in all the wrong places for girls.

i loved living there and i'll go back as soon as i can. i'm stuck in LA for now, but if i get the opportunity to move back, i would. life is just better up there for me.
 

shuttleboi

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I went to grad school in Los Angeles; great place. I'll agree California women are hot, but that's not all there is to it.
 

Mackie2k

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I have lived in Seattle my whole life, and worked at MSFT for 8.

It's nice up here, but traffic is HORRIBLE, Housing is rediculous.....

MSFT has alot of nice women too, we're starting to recruit directly from College.
 

James Bond

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I'm from Bellevue, I actually just moved to Spokane.

You will find a lot of girls in both Bellevue and Seattle. Depending on what type of night life you enjoy, you *will* find something in one of the two. Seattle has a million bars, clubs, etc. Bellevue doesn't have nearly as many, and they don't have the same atmosphere (most of them are a little more ritzy).

You will be able to find girls all over.. but ALL of the girls in Bellevue are obsessed with money. Seattle isn't quite the same, but all Bellevue is is a big pot of gold, and that's how the women like it. Anyone with a house that didn't cost a couple million, is poor-and in downtown Bellevue you will see about 90% BMW, Lexus, Mercedes (no joke).

As for your actual question; the quality of life in Bellevue is great. It is one of the cleanest suberbs you will ever find. If you take a stroll or whatever downtown, you will constantly be looking around thinking to yourself how nice it is. If you can deal with everyone being all about money, then you will enjoy living there... especially if YOU have some.

How do you tell if someone has a good job in the U.S.? They wear a suit to work.
How do you tell if someone is rich in Bellevue? They don't wear a suit to work.

 

shuttleboi

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Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm from Bellevue, I actually just moved to Spokane.

You will find a lot of girls in both Bellevue and Seattle. Depending on what type of night life you enjoy, you *will* find something in one of the two. Seattle has a million bars, clubs, etc. Bellevue doesn't have nearly as many, and they don't have the same atmosphere (most of them are a little more ritzy).

You will be able to find girls all over.. but ALL of the girls in Bellevue are obsessed with money. Seattle isn't quite the same, but all Bellevue is is a big pot of gold, and that's how the women like it. Anyone with a house that didn't cost a couple million, is poor-and in downtown Bellevue you will see about 90% BMW, Lexus, Mercedes (no joke).

As for your actual question; the quality of life in Bellevue is great. It is one of the cleanest suberbs you will ever find. If you take a stroll or whatever downtown, you will constantly be looking around thinking to yourself how nice it is. If you can deal with everyone being all about money, then you will enjoy living there... especially if YOU have some.

How do you tell if someone has a good job in the U.S.? They wear a suit to work.
How do you tell if someone is rich in Bellevue? They don't wear a suit to work.


Thanks for the info. If I were to take the MSFT job, it would be in Bellevue. From your description, the singles scene there is not quite what I'm looking for. Maybe seattle is different? I'm not exactly the best-looking or out-going guy (which explains why I'm on ATOT -- zing!), so I'm looking for some place with more down-to-earth women. Woe is me.
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm from Bellevue, I actually just moved to Spokane.

You will find a lot of girls in both Bellevue and Seattle. Depending on what type of night life you enjoy, you *will* find something in one of the two. Seattle has a million bars, clubs, etc. Bellevue doesn't have nearly as many, and they don't have the same atmosphere (most of them are a little more ritzy).

You will be able to find girls all over.. but ALL of the girls in Bellevue are obsessed with money. Seattle isn't quite the same, but all Bellevue is is a big pot of gold, and that's how the women like it. Anyone with a house that didn't cost a couple million, is poor-and in downtown Bellevue you will see about 90% BMW, Lexus, Mercedes (no joke).

As for your actual question; the quality of life in Bellevue is great. It is one of the cleanest suberbs you will ever find. If you take a stroll or whatever downtown, you will constantly be looking around thinking to yourself how nice it is. If you can deal with everyone being all about money, then you will enjoy living there... especially if YOU have some.

How do you tell if someone has a good job in the U.S.? They wear a suit to work.
How do you tell if someone is rich in Bellevue? They don't wear a suit to work.


Thanks for the info. If I were to take the MSFT job, it would be in Bellevue. From your description, the singles scene there is not quite what I'm looking for. Maybe seattle is different? I'm not exactly the best-looking or out-going guy (which explains why I'm on ATOT -- zing!), so I'm looking for some place with more down-to-earth women. Woe is me.

You would probably be okay meeting people in Seattle. However, because you will be working in Redmond, you will be living in Bellevue--which probably is NOT the place you want to meet women. Seattle really is different.. money isn't everything over there. Keep in mind, even though seattle is only 5-10min from Bellevue (depending on where in Bellevue you live), it isn't just a hop and a skip away with traffic. You cannot travel to Seattle during rush hour--a 10 minute drive WILL take you 1.5hours+. If you feel comfortable going to bars etc, you would be okay meeting people that way probably.
And hey, not *every* girl in Bellevue has the same values, but thats the stereotype, and more often than not it prevails.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm from Bellevue, I actually just moved to Spokane.

You will find a lot of girls in both Bellevue and Seattle. Depending on what type of night life you enjoy, you *will* find something in one of the two. Seattle has a million bars, clubs, etc. Bellevue doesn't have nearly as many, and they don't have the same atmosphere (most of them are a little more ritzy).

You will be able to find girls all over.. but ALL of the girls in Bellevue are obsessed with money. Seattle isn't quite the same, but all Bellevue is is a big pot of gold, and that's how the women like it. Anyone with a house that didn't cost a couple million, is poor-and in downtown Bellevue you will see about 90% BMW, Lexus, Mercedes (no joke).

As for your actual question; the quality of life in Bellevue is great. It is one of the cleanest suberbs you will ever find. If you take a stroll or whatever downtown, you will constantly be looking around thinking to yourself how nice it is. If you can deal with everyone being all about money, then you will enjoy living there... especially if YOU have some.

How do you tell if someone has a good job in the U.S.? They wear a suit to work.
How do you tell if someone is rich in Bellevue? They don't wear a suit to work.


Thanks for the info. If I were to take the MSFT job, it would be in Bellevue. From your description, the singles scene there is not quite what I'm looking for. Maybe seattle is different? I'm not exactly the best-looking or out-going guy (which explains why I'm on ATOT -- zing!), so I'm looking for some place with more down-to-earth women. Woe is me.

pics?
 

James Bond

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm from Bellevue, I actually just moved to Spokane.

You will find a lot of girls in both Bellevue and Seattle. Depending on what type of night life you enjoy, you *will* find something in one of the two. Seattle has a million bars, clubs, etc. Bellevue doesn't have nearly as many, and they don't have the same atmosphere (most of them are a little more ritzy).

You will be able to find girls all over.. but ALL of the girls in Bellevue are obsessed with money. Seattle isn't quite the same, but all Bellevue is is a big pot of gold, and that's how the women like it. Anyone with a house that didn't cost a couple million, is poor-and in downtown Bellevue you will see about 90% BMW, Lexus, Mercedes (no joke).

As for your actual question; the quality of life in Bellevue is great. It is one of the cleanest suberbs you will ever find. If you take a stroll or whatever downtown, you will constantly be looking around thinking to yourself how nice it is. If you can deal with everyone being all about money, then you will enjoy living there... especially if YOU have some.

How do you tell if someone has a good job in the U.S.? They wear a suit to work.
How do you tell if someone is rich in Bellevue? They don't wear a suit to work.


Thanks for the info. If I were to take the MSFT job, it would be in Bellevue. From your description, the singles scene there is not quite what I'm looking for. Maybe seattle is different? I'm not exactly the best-looking or out-going guy (which explains why I'm on ATOT -- zing!), so I'm looking for some place with more down-to-earth women. Woe is me.

pics?

I just googled for a photo of downtown. I don't really have any :/
Downtown Bellevue: Night
 

Xstatic1

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if u're looking for down-to-earth women, my vote is for seattle. Tizyler mentioned Bellevue, which is indeed a ritzy area, which translates to more swanky cars, upscale stores, u get the picture. and of course there will always be women who hang out in those areas who are money-hungry, but for the most part, people in seattle & its suburbs are relatively easy-going.
 

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Originally posted by: shuttleboi
Originally posted by: Tizyler
I'm from Bellevue, I actually just moved to Spokane.

You will find a lot of girls in both Bellevue and Seattle. Depending on what type of night life you enjoy, you *will* find something in one of the two. Seattle has a million bars, clubs, etc. Bellevue doesn't have nearly as many, and they don't have the same atmosphere (most of them are a little more ritzy).

You will be able to find girls all over.. but ALL of the girls in Bellevue are obsessed with money. Seattle isn't quite the same, but all Bellevue is is a big pot of gold, and that's how the women like it. Anyone with a house that didn't cost a couple million, is poor-and in downtown Bellevue you will see about 90% BMW, Lexus, Mercedes (no joke).

As for your actual question; the quality of life in Bellevue is great. It is one of the cleanest suberbs you will ever find. If you take a stroll or whatever downtown, you will constantly be looking around thinking to yourself how nice it is. If you can deal with everyone being all about money, then you will enjoy living there... especially if YOU have some.

How do you tell if someone has a good job in the U.S.? They wear a suit to work.
How do you tell if someone is rich in Bellevue? They don't wear a suit to work.


Thanks for the info. If I were to take the MSFT job, it would be in Bellevue. From your description, the singles scene there is not quite what I'm looking for. Maybe seattle is different? I'm not exactly the best-looking or out-going guy (which explains why I'm on ATOT -- zing!), so I'm looking for some place with more down-to-earth women. Woe is me.
Then the Fremont neighborhood in Seattle is just the thing for you. It's....quirky and you will find a little bit of everything there. Best of all, they have the Solstice Parade with naked bicyclists :p
 

crystal

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I vote for Santa Clara.

The weather at this time of year in Seattle is nothing to write home about
The traffic mess is a big :thumbsdown:
Housing cost in Bellevue is somewhere in the strastosphere
Beside, with you working in Santa Clara, that is one less car on the road I have to compete with. :D
 

quikah

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If you have an asian fetish (50% chance of that since you are on ATOT :p ), then SV hands down. It is 30% asian. The female:male ratio is a bit overblown IMO. No major money or car obsession, of course I lived in LA for 9 yrs where that is the norm.

Silicon Valley is suburbia, so there isn't much of a singles scene, moslty families with single people scattered around. A few decent clubs in San Jose, few decent bars in Palo Alto and Mountain View. If you want a really good single scene you have to head up to SF. It is not soo bad though, I managed to find a GF.

Real Estate prices suck in the bay area.