Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 Reference Hardware Kits Now On Sale

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http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/155...-810-reference-hardware-kits-now-on-sale.html

Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 20nm 8-Core Mobile Phone and Tablet kits

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Qualcomm's Snapdragon 810 reference Smartphone packs 4 GB of LPDDR4 RAM (for the first time ever), 32 GB of expandable storage, 13 MP rear and 4 MP front cameras, a 3,020 mAh battery with support for Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0, Qualcomm Hexagon V56 DSP, and a 6.17-inch Quad HD (2560 x 1600) display. The device the "the latest available Android OS." The cost of this device is $799.

Meanwhile, Qualcomm's Snapdragon 810 reference tablet is an even meaner beast. For starters, it packs a 10.1-inch 4K (3840 x 2160) resolution display, the same octa-core Snapdragon 810 chipset, 4 GB LPDDR4 RAM, 64 GB of internal storage (expandable via a microSD card slot), and the same 13 MP and 4 MP camera sensors. There's also a duo of 3D IR cameras onboard. The tablet has a 7,560 mAh battery. The cost of this device is $999.
Qualcomm's powerful reference hardware kits will be available by mid-December.
 
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20nm Cortex A57, good stuff. Tablet and phone performance is about to make another big jump.
 

Soccerman06

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Shit a 4k screen? Why do we need this in tablet form, so much power draw. QHD is one thing, but 4k is too much for any mobile processor.
 

Headfoot

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QHD on a smartphone and 4k on a tablet are pure overkill and only serve to reduce brightness and battery life. On these Qualcomm development platforms though it makes sense, as they want to demonstrate the upper bounds of their platform. It's a pure "this is what we can do" as opposed to "this is what we should do." Gives developers a way to target sure-to-come QHD smartphones and 4k tablets running 810 before they arrive on the market
 

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QHD on a smartphone and 4k on a tablet are pure overkill and only serve to reduce brightness and battery life. On these Qualcomm development platforms though it makes sense, as they want to demonstrate the upper bounds of their platform. It's a pure "this is what we can do" as opposed to "this is what we should do." Gives developers a way to target sure-to-come QHD smartphones and 4k tablets running 810 before they arrive on the market

Gear VR...

Also, look at Note 4. Went from 1080p to 1440p and improved on battery and performance in basically all metrics.
 
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Lets hope this big little actually works correctly with the core switching and the passing of data.

hmm, missed that memo but it wouldn't surprise me. when I first heard of the idea I thought it was ludicrous--and hadn't a clue how they would be able to pull it off
 

CakeMonster

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Encoding would be much more interesting, so the camera can be put to use like recording 4K video at 60fps.
 

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The Snapdragon 810 has a hardware HEVC encoder for 4K capture. Seems it's the only one that supports both hevc encoding and decoding at hardware level for now.
 

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That's some incredible DPI. It's great to see those panels come out. It would be awesome for an oculus rift display.
 

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For $1000, there are much better Core M tablets two-in-ones available. Also not sure why it's called 'reference' since such hardware or price is not representative for the average (aka reference) tablet.
 
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For $1000, there are much better Core M tablets two-in-ones available. Also not sure why it's called 'reference' since such hardware or price is not representative for the average (aka reference) tablet.

These are for developers looking to develop apps that take advantage of what fully loaded Snapdragon 810 devices have to offer.

A Core M two in one wouldn't fulfill the purpose that these are intended to serve. Also note that they will only sell these to qualified developers, so this is not for the masses.
 

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For $1000, there are much better Core M tablets two-in-ones available. Also not sure why it's called 'reference' since such hardware or price is not representative for the average (aka reference) tablet.

You fit Maslow's hammer perfectly. When your only tool is a hammer, its tempting to see everything as nails. Intel isn't the answer to every single (in this case unasked) question in these forums.

Qualcomm, NV, and I assume others sometimes release these as dev platforms. Someone should really tell them they could be pushing intel chips instead :)
 

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Also, look at Note 4. Went from 1080p to 1440p and improved on battery and performance in basically all metrics.
and now imagine how much better battery life and performance will be be on a FHD panel ! :whiste:
 

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and now imagine how much better battery life and performance will be be on a FHD panel ! :whiste:

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 uses an OLED panel. OLED does not lose much if any power for higher resolutions due to how the technology works. LCD panels such as IPS do use more power the higher the resolution goes due to a screen door effect where you are shining white light and using the liquid crystals as filters.
 

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For $1000, there are much better Core M tablets two-in-ones available. Also not sure why it's called 'reference' since such hardware or price is not representative for the average (aka reference) tablet.

It's a reference developer platform. Actual consumer devices will be a fraction of the price ;) It's an ultra-low-volume, early access device.
 

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This is a dev kit. Plus this is android, not that win pos

This is quite silly, as Intel will have its SoCs in Android based devices as well as Windows.

However, it is pretty daft to call the most robust operating system a POS, especially as these devices coming soon will be running on a much better functioning (at least for desktop users) OS. I don't get why there is so much fanboyism, I've used all three mobile operating systems on a main mobile device (currently Android) and all can get the job done; but to compare Android to Windows 8.1 and soon enough W10 is just plain silly, there is no comparison...not even close.
 

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This is quite silly, as Intel will have its SoCs in Android based devices as well as Windows.

However, it is pretty daft to call the most robust operating system a POS, especially as these devices coming soon will be running on a much better functioning (at least for desktop users) OS. I don't get why there is so much fanboyism, I've used all three mobile operating systems on a main mobile device (currently Android) and all can get the job done; but to compare Android to Windows 8.1 and soon enough W10 is just plain silly, there is no comparison...not even close.

Nah, I still feel win 8 is the biggest pos os to ever come into existence. Why? Because it insults my intelligence and screams that the users are morons who need giant tiles to navigate. Apparently MS feels that either I can't read or need the excessive visual stimulus that would be appropriate for a 3 year old. Just like how yahoo has replace their old simplistic text format with giant tile pictures of few words, and how ask.com has replace their simplistic question answer text format with giant picture boxes that you need to next through instead of read through, Microsoft does the same thing. Small icons and text has been replaced with gigantic flashing animated tile pictures. While the Android small icon format is intuitive and simple, the MS win 8 grade school picture book format screams "we think our users are dumb stupid"
 
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Nah, I still feel win 8 is the biggest pos os to ever come into existence. Why? Because it insults my intelligence and screams that the users are morons who need giant tiles to navigate. Apparently MS feels that either I can't read or need the excessive visual stimulus that would be appropriate for a 3 year old. Just like how yahoo has replace their old simplistic text format with giant tile pictures of few words, and how ask.com has replace their simplistic question answer text format with giant picture boxes that you need to next through instead of read through, Microsoft does the same thing. Small icons and text has been replaced with gigantic flashing animated tile pictures. While the Android small icon format is intuitive and simple, the MS win 8 grade school picture book format screams "we think our users are dumb stupid"

Weird because I can have it have the little icons and text like Windows has had...long before Android existed. Oh no, no Start Menu!!! Oh wait, you mean I can get similar functionality in other ways, just as easy as it ever was? Oh. And it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more productive than Android or iOS will be for years still? Yep, total POS, worst OS EVAR!!! :rolleyes:

Also, you can adjust the size of the tiles so if a tile that also provides information without needing to open the app is soooo problematic that it makes you feel like a 3 year old, you can change that. You can change size, grouping, color, turn live tiles and animation off, and probably even more (such as functionality of clicking said tile).

Seriously have you actually used it? Because it sounds like at best you played with it for 2 seconds on a store demo unit and just want to complain without having any idea what you're talking about. That or you're getting confused with WinRT. Even Windows Phone has changed so that you have more control over the tiles so your arguments are so old it just makes you look massively ignorant. It's quite amusing that you feel your intelligence is insulted by it when you don't seem to be using much of it.
 

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Weird because I can have it have the little icons and text like Windows has had...long before Android existed. Oh no, no Start Menu!!! Oh wait, you mean I can get similar functionality in other ways, just as easy as it ever was? Oh. And it's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more productive than Android or iOS will be for years still? Yep, total POS, worst OS EVAR!!! :rolleyes:

Also, you can adjust the size of the tiles so if a tile that also provides information without needing to open the app is soooo problematic that it makes you feel like a 3 year old, you can change that. You can change size, grouping, color, turn live tiles and animation off, and probably even more (such as functionality of clicking said tile).

Seriously have you actually used it? Because it sounds like at best you played with it for 2 seconds on a store demo unit and just want to complain without having any idea what you're talking about. That or you're getting confused witinRT. Even Windows Phone has changed so that you have more control over the tiles so your arguments are so old it just makes you look massively ignorant. It's quite amusing that you feel your intelligence is insulted by it when you don't seem to be using much of it.

I didn't say I felt like a 3 year old, I said Windows 8 treats the user like a 3 year old as it is a picture book based operating system.
Yes I tried the phone in the store for a few minutes and decided I don't need an OS designed by Fisher Price. Because that's what window 8 provides, the design appeal for a 3 year old. I had a win 8 laptop and gave it up for adoption because those tiles are as appealing as internet ads. This is not eating broccoli, I don't need to try it until I like it.
 
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