Learning curve? I'd have to argue that a bit. For a person that's completely new to CS, i'd say there's a pretty decent learning curve. There's already a huge community thats been playing the game for a long time now, so there's plenty of good players (same with Quake). But like any game, it will be filled with nubs. In CS you have to learn the buy system, and weapon recoils which are critical - unlike Quake. CS is also naturally a team based game, which requires a bit of effort - whereas Quake's spirit is 1v1 deathmatch. I'm by no means saying Quake has no learning curve, i'm just saying the difference is not as great as u make it out to be.