quadro-fx .. difference between Nvidia and PNY cards

[deadalvs]

hi.

i am thinking about buying a better graphics card for 3d modeling (not gaming). now nvidia quadro fx is the chipset of desire, but i've seen both Nvidia and PNY sell graphics cards with those chipsets.

so what's the difference if i buy a PNY instead of an original Nvidia card ?

any idea ?

 

[masteryoda34]

I think nvidia just uses PNY as a distributor in some areas of the world for quadro chips. I might be wrong.

 

[sgrinavi]

Originally posted by: deadalvs

hi.

i am thinking about buying a better graphics card for 3d modeling (not gaming). now nvidia quadro fx is the chipset of desire, but i've seen both Nvidia and PNY sell graphics cards with those chipsets.

so what's the difference if i buy a PNY instead of an original Nvidia card ?

any idea ?

PNY's Quadros are, for all intents and purposes, identical to Nvidia cards.

What software are you using?

 

[Aenslead]

PNY is the only manufacturer authorized to build Quadro FX solutions in Europe and the Americas.

ELSA would be the only one in Asia.

 

[deadalvs]

i'd use maya (3d modeling) ..

i've heard HP also produce some quadros ..

i hope those 4 gig cards get cheaper soon ! :-(

* * *

else than just for display purposes, i am waiting for a solution to render (non-realtime) images directly on the GPU, like nvidia's gelato, which died some time ago.

 

[sgrinavi]

Originally posted by: deadalvs
i'd use maya (3d modeling) ..

i've heard HP also produce some quadros ..

i hope those 4 gig cards get cheaper soon ! :-(

* * *

else than just for display purposes, i am waiting for a solution to render (non-realtime) images directly on the GPU, like nvidia's gelato, which died some time ago.

For Maya a softfireGL's 3870 works very well for some, a little buggy for others. It would be worth a shot as the cost is very reasonable.

They are all the same cards, just manufactured by different vendors. - They will all do the job.

 

[deadalvs]

i got an other rather important question ..

if i decided to buy one of those nvidia 5800 monsters .. would it actually work with my mainboard ?

i got a intel bad axe 2 : http://www.intel.com/design/mo...bd/bx/bx_available.htm

the card has pci-express 2.0 .. but is that software or hardware-related ? i'm a little confused with that ..

??

 

[sgrinavi]

It is hardware related, you should be fine. Your 975 chipset if somewhat outdated, what is the rest of your system like? You might be bottle necked and not able to fully utilize that nice video card.

 

[deadalvs]

- bad axe 2 mobo
- intel core 2 quad QX6700 2.66 GHz (extreme edition) running @ 3.33 GHz (10x333; watercooled)
- 8 GB ddr 2 @ 667 MHz (ram not overclocked since 667 is 2x333)
- win xp 64

where would those (damn) bottlenecks be ?

 

[PCTC2]

Originally posted by: deadalvs

- bad axe 2 mobo
- intel core 2 quad QX6700 2.66 GHz (extreme edition) running @ 3.33 GHz (10x333; watercooled)
- 8 GB ddr 2 @ 667 MHz (ram not overclocked since 667 is 2x333)
- win xp 64

where would those (damn) bottlenecks be ?

The 975X Chipset itself. Utilizing PCIe 1.x 16x would be 1/2 the bandwidth of PCIe 2.0 16x. And the performance of the chipset itself too. He's not saying you would be COMPLETELY bottlenecked, but you might not get the full potential of the card at high resolutions.

 

[sgrinavi]

Originally posted by: deadalvs


where would those (damn) bottlenecks be ?

No offense intended. I would hate to see you spend 3000 buckazoids on a graphics card that you are going to get $1500 worth of use out of.. ya know?

If you head on over to toms hardware and take a look at the workstation graphics cards it looks like ATI owns Maya. I got a brand new V7700 off ebay for under $300 during the cash back hey day and have seen them go, new, for around $350 more than once... That sucker has a 72 gb memory bandwidth and 320 shaders

If you really want to spend the extra money then maybe a v8700 may be more what you are looking for -- 111 gb/second and is priced at $1500..

 

[deadalvs]

no, no ! it's really great you guys mention those problems. i don't want to make a mistake here ! your opinions are worth gold .. no platin ! i'll look at those atis again ..

 

[Denithor]

I think what they're getting at is you might want to consider upgrading your motherboard to an X38/X48 chipset board with a PCIe 2.0 slot so you get the full bandwidth available from the card.

It would suck to spend that kind of cash on a video card and have it be limited by the motherboard PCIe slot bandwidth.

 

[themisfit610]

I don't think you'd have that much of a problem with your current motherboard actually.

If you do have any issues, upgrading the motherboard would be a marginal expense compared to an FX5800

~MiSfit