Quad core this year from Intel?

Golgatha

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http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20060817124626.html

Neat! Not very useful yet, but neat none-the-less.

Intel?s first quad-core microprocessor for desktops is projected to emerge in Q4 2006, a quarter earlier than expected originally, operate at 2.66GHz, use 1066MHz processor system bus and be positioned as Intel?s top-of-the-range offering for gamers and enthusiasts, reports HKEPC web-site, which claims that it had seen the latest roadmaps from Intel Corp.
 

Alphafox78

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Each CPU core is utilized less and less, in dual core its like 75% or so. with quad core, by the time you get to the 4th core its like 25%. Plus the app has to be written to utilize it, which only a few are even written for dual core utilization. Unless your running like photoshop or some extremem engineering app Id say its failry useless. its great for lan party braggin tho! ;)
 

Polish3d

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I'm thinking for most people here's purposes, it might be better to have a faster dual core system than a slower quad core system. Assuming of course, that quad cores are generally more limited in their OCs than dual cores
 

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People have gotten the Quad Cores from Intel up to 4.795 GHz the max oc on Core 2 Duo so far is 5.5~ GHz . So it is only a loss of 700 MHz on max OC on early ES samples.
 

DrMrLordX

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Once/If Intel gets Mitosis working properly, this becomes much more interesting.
 

TheTeacher

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In my quad core system (Dual Opty 285) even in games I could never hit over 33% total CPU usuage. Great for multi-tasking the extreme, but not very realistic. I sold my opty's and just bought the e6800, with 2GB Corsair 1066Mhz DDR2. =) WOOT! Overnight shipping, I should see it monday, unless I can convince UPS to let me pick it up saturday. I should have shipped FedEx, I know they would. CRAP!!! LOL
Mike
 

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Today, I was attempting to abuse my Quad Core workstation. I had to run 2 copies of matlab, and 2 copies of virtualdub to reach 100% usage, and honestly, I was working super fast just to keep the cores in use the whole time.

We really need some true multi-threaded apps before this gets usefull. Dual core is excellent and I would never go back to single core, but utilizing more than 2 cores takes some determination.

*waits patiently for multi-threaded matlab, so video can be analyzed faster using our software than it is currently..... 1/20th real time on a dual 3 ghz woodcrest server*
 

Zenoth

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And it ain't gonna stop at Quad-Core.

Octo-Core will also be a reality in a few years only.

I don't know where we're going really. Is it actually useful ? What's the actual percentage of the "consumer mass" of a given CPU-producing company that'll buy such a product with the purpose of using all the Cores because "they need all the Cores", even though the industry barely manages to make current OS's using Dual-Cores efficiently (especially in gaming).

That's probably human nature though.

Developing ultra-capable stuff, and using half of that stuff, but you're happy you have it "just in case you'll need it one day".
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: Zenoth
That's probably human nature though.

Developing ultra-capable stuff, and using half of that stuff, but you're happy you have it "just in case you'll need it one day".
Exactly. My car gets over 40 mpg and has four doors, but yet every Corvette, Lambo, and Ferrari I see on the freeways, I'm passing. Why buy a car that will do 200+ mph, if it's going to make you the slowest car on the interstate?

edit: But thanks for the link, Golgatha. It is interesting to see where they're going with these 'puters.
 

TheTeacher

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I do it strictly for bragging rights. Because it reality, by the time it all comes to use I will have something again that software will not fully utilize. LOL
Mike
 

DrMrLordX

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Vista probably won't react at all, even if you're running Aero. It's supposed to do okay on a single-core rig provided it has enough RAM and a good 3d card.
 

dmens

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i wonder why the reaction on amd's 4x4 was so much more positive. lol.
 

DrMrLordX

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My reaction to 4x4 hasn't been positive at all. Early incarnations of 4x4 will be pretty damn useless for even most enthusiasts. At least Kentsfield is a drop-in solution that should work on most/all Conroe-ready motherboards.
 

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I do not know if Vista is designed to react to more than 2 cores or not (I imagine that the Server and/or Deluxe variants probably would), but I can speak to a dual-proc system on Windows2000 though. The 'responsiveness' and 'snapiness' of the desktop was hard to beat. I still prefer my old dual-500 Mhz box for day to day multitasking than my single 2500 Mhz machine. The benefits are in evenly distributing all apps over as many processors (or cores as they are referred to now) so that one single resource hog and/or one application crash does not bring down the whole system. I wholeheartedly welcome quad-core and beyond. Obviously I do not want to be price gouged on the first incarnations, but down the line I am confident that I will be thoroughly impressed with quad-core and more. I might even multitask more than I do now ... if that is even possible ! :)
 

zsdersw

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Maybe "Core 2 Quatro". It rolls off the tongue easier than Quadro. It can't be Quattro, because that's an Audi thing.
 

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Originally posted by: krotchy
Today, I was attempting to abuse my Quad Core workstation. I had to run 2 copies of matlab, and 2 copies of virtualdub to reach 100% usage, and honestly, I was working super fast just to keep the cores in use the whole time.

We really need some true multi-threaded apps before this gets usefull. Dual core is excellent and I would never go back to single core, but utilizing more than 2 cores takes some determination.

*waits patiently for multi-threaded matlab, so video can be analyzed faster using our software than it is currently..... 1/20th real time on a dual 3 ghz woodcrest server*

I'm sure that you'll get a multi-threaded MatLab eventually. I'm surprised they haven't released it already. Excel 2007 (beta) has a multi-threaded calculation engine. You can even tell it to use only one core, or both. I'll bet that within a year or two most software will support multiple cores.
 

coldpower27

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Yeha but so far this is going to be Core 2 Extreme something or other for the moment, there are no mainstream SKU's to my knowledge yet...
 

Steve Guilliot

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IMHO, many of you are being short-sighted. For most, this might be an e-penis enlargement tool. But next year, the proliferation of HD video on the desktop will change that.

Check out Tom's article on Kentsfield. You will NEED 4 cores to do any kind of HD encoding at reasonable speeds. There's plenty to use 4 cores for besides games.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Steve Guilliot
IMHO, many of you are being short-sighted. For most, this might be an e-penis enlargement tool. But next year, the proliferation of HD video on the desktop will change that.

Check out Tom's article on Kentsfield. You will NEED 4 cores to do any kind of HD encoding at reasonable speeds. There's plenty to use 4 cores for besides games.

:thumbsup:

Kentsfield is gonna be a beast, but we'll find a way to use it all, and wait for more :D