Quad 2.5Ghz ARM Cortex-A15 machines on the horizon?

DaveSimmons

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Linux netbooks have not sold well at all, so this seems unlikely. Atom lets makers offer XP and Win 7 which is what most buyers want.

An Android tablet seems more likely, but Google is threatening to deny tablets app store access unless they include the camera and GPS mandated for smartphones.
 

Bateluer

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Linux netbooks have not sold well at all, so this seems unlikely. Atom lets makers offer XP and Win 7 which is what most buyers want.

Ironic, because the Atom powered netbooks run MUCH better under Linux than they do under Windows. Its people's familiarity with Windows, not any technical advantage.

An Android tablet seems more likely, but Google is threatening to deny tablets app store access unless they include the camera and GPS mandated for smartphones.

I thought they just didn't want Froyo being used for tablets because it wasn't prepared for the strength of tablets? Having used Froyo on my Wits A81E, I can agree with that decision. Unless a manufacturer wants to undertake some effort to bake Froyo for their tablet, then it doesn't really fit.
 

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Ironic, because the Atom powered netbooks run MUCH better under Linux than they do under Windows. Its people's familiarity with Windows, not any technical advantage.

Definitely, but it's also app sharing for those that have specific Windows apps they think they need to run.

I thought they just didn't want Froyo being used for tablets because it wasn't prepared for the strength of tablets? Having used Froyo on my Wits A81E, I can agree with that decision. Unless a manufacturer wants to undertake some effort to bake Froyo for their tablet, then it doesn't really fit.
UI is the reason why one Google person said it wasn't suited for tablet use, but it's my (possibly incorrect :) ) understanding that not following the hardware standard requirements is what gives them the formal (legal?) reason to reject the tablets.
 

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UI is the reason why one Google person said it wasn't suited for tablet use, but it's my (possibly incorrect :) ) understanding that not following the hardware standard requirements is what gives them the formal (legal?) reason to reject the tablets.


If a party downloads the Android source code and compiles it for their tablet, how much legal leg does Google have to stand on to say No? Its easy enough to make your own UI for Android, Samsung, Moto, and HTC have all done it.
 

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Linux netbooks have not sold well at all, so this seems unlikely. Atom lets makers offer XP and Win 7 which is what most buyers want.


That has more to do with the horrible choices in distro by the linux laptop makers.

If they would just have standardized on Ubuntu they wouldn't have so many issues that where related to how terrible the default repos where and the lack of update support. I've never met anyone that actually liked Xandros, Foresight or any of the rest.

An Ubuntu based system would work fine for most, its already had an ARM port for most and if they google or youtube it there is no end to information about it.

Debian, Slackware, Fedora and Gentoo guys need to stop complaining that there shouldn't be a consumer standard linux. It makes all the sense in the world as either way you know for a fact now that the hardware is supported and that with a unified base Linux can get a real foothold thus convincing companies to port those goodies you want so much to linux.

That, and all consumer x86 linux boxes should include Wine from the WineHQ repos.
 

DaveSimmons

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If a party downloads the Android source code and compiles it for their tablet, how much legal leg does Google have to stand on to say No? Its easy enough to make your own UI for Android, Samsung, Moto, and HTC have all done it.

They can't stop anybody from making any android-based device, but they can refuse them access to the Google apps and Android app store:

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/...-from-google-is-android-ready-for-tablets.ars
"Google mobile products director Hugo Barra recently acknowledged this issue in a statement to TechRadar. He says that Android 2.2, codenamed Froyo, is simply not designed for the tablet form factor. He also commented that the Android Market won't be available on tablets that deviate too far from the conventional Android user experience, because such devices won't be able to properly run Android applications."
 

Bateluer

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They can't stop anybody from making any android-based device, but they can refuse them access to the Google apps and Android app store:

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/...-from-google-is-android-ready-for-tablets.ars
"Google mobile products director Hugo Barra recently acknowledged this issue in a statement to TechRadar. He says that Android 2.2, codenamed Froyo, is simply not designed for the tablet form factor. He also commented that the Android Market won't be available on tablets that deviate too far from the conventional Android user experience, because such devices won't be able to properly run Android applications."

This is true, they can make that part very very difficult. My A81E has Market, but 95% of the apps are missing, even the free ones. Its easy enough to download the free apps on my phone, then copy the apk over to the tablet though.