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QoS for Pandora

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hennessy1

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Is there a way to setup QoS for streaming pandora through firefox? Or is that just regular port 80 traffic?

The location I want to do this for has a very low connection speed and wanted to know if I could prioritize it over regular internet browsing.
 
Pandora streams are just regular HTTP traffic. If you want to do QoS, you'd need to prioritize based on destination IP.

That being said, Pandora maintains a very large buffer compared to more traditional streaming media, so it's a lot more resilient against momentary bandwidth starvation.
 
Ok I figured as much thank you. If I were to use the desktop app for pandora one is that something that I could prioritize or would that be the same traffic just a fancy package on it?

The location really only does email and insurance checking but they have found the love of streaming music. So I think that is where this is causing time outs.
 
I stream pandora on my cell phone at the gym on 3g maxing out with about 128k baud without issue. If you have a ton of people streaming at say 320k you will max out T1's and the like pretty quick though.
 
I don't think you can change the audio quality on the browser version for the free pandora only the paid version I think.
 
inbound QoS is very difficult to achieve unless you purchase expensive, commercial grade gear, such as BlueCoat's PacketShaper.
 
hennessy1 said:
Is there a way to setup QoS for streaming pandora through firefox? Or is that just regular port 80 traffic?

The location I want to do this for has a very low connection speed and wanted to know if I could prioritize it over regular internet browsing.
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hennessy1 said:
Ok I figured as much thank you. If I were to use the desktop app for pandora one is that something that I could prioritize or would that be the same traffic just a fancy package on it?

The location really only does email and insurance checking but they have found the love of streaming music. So I think that is where this is causing time outs.
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Wow. That seems completely ass-backward to me.

This is some type of office doing work over the internet, with limited bandwidth, and you want to give music streaming priority over other traffic? This makes almost no sense.
 
It might seem backward to you but I was interested in it only because the owner asked if it was possible. The internet is used very lightly besides the streaming music. If it isn't possible that is fine. I know they are bandwidth limited and wanted to know if there was a better way I can prioritize the traffic if even only when there is low bandwidth usage.
 
hennessy1 said:
It might seem backward to you but I was interested in it only because the owner asked if it was possible. The internet is used very lightly besides the streaming music. If it isn't possible that is fine. I know they are bandwidth limited and wanted to know if there was a better way I can prioritize the traffic if even only when there is low bandwidth usage.
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Suggest an upgrade for the Internet. The free Pandora I think is 92kbps so you can ball park that each use will average 92kbps. Take that x # users = How much bandwidth they need.
 
Alright that is what I figured would be really the best solution. You can only do so much with a low bandwidth ceiling. Thank you all for your help.
 
If the other traffic is indeed light, then there won't be much gained by giving Pandora traffic higher priority. It's most likely to be multiple Pandora streams that are using up all the bandwidth and causing timeouts for each other.
 
@Carson Dyle-Ya I informed them that would be the cause. When they started this business streaming really wasn't in play as much as it is now and now that there are multiple people streaming it is really taxing the connection more so than any surfing would.
 
Cooky said:
inbound QoS is very difficult to achieve unless you purchase expensive, commercial grade gear, such as BlueCoat's PacketShaper.
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Or you use a consumer grade router loaded with aftermarket firmware (i.e. DD-WRT, Tomato) to perform this kind of QoS.

My WRT54GL and Tomato... total cost $47
 
I run DD-WRT on my home router, and I'm aware these SOHO routers can do QoS, but they only do it for OUTBOUND.
Since you don't control the provider edge device, it's very difficult to control INBOUND QoS.
 
Cooky said:
I run DD-WRT on my home router, and I'm aware these SOHO routers can do QoS, but they only do it for OUTBOUND.
Since you don't control the provider edge device, it's very difficult to control INBOUND QoS.
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Inbound TCP traffic (read: Pandora) can be rate-controlled by the edge device.
 
In Cisco networking terms, you can police inbound traffic, but you cannot shape it.
That's where the difference is.

Most of the QoS shaping policies are applied in the outbound direction on commercial grade routers.
 
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