q9650 pricing

[NL5]

What's the deal? No price drop in years.

 

[Insomniator]

c2q's are still in high demand for all the people with older c2d's

They are still very powerful quad core chips even compared to i5's/i7's so there probably won't be a drop in used (or new if you can still find them) prices until something that really makes these old quads obsolete comes along.

 

[tweakboy]

c2q's are still in high demand for all the people with older c2d's

They are still very powerful quad core chips even compared to i5's/i7's so there probably won't be a drop in used (or new if you can still find them) prices until something that really makes these old quads obsolete comes along.

I couldn't say it any better.

nice

 

[Gillbot]

They are pretty much the top CPU for that socket, why drop the price?

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

The Phenom II quads make more sense for a more budget-oriented platform.
I just upgraded all 12 of my remaining systems to a combination of X3 740 BE (unlocked to X4) + TA880G+ and X4 940 BE + MA785GM-US2H.

 

[GundamF91]

Maybe the question is, does Phenom II Quads beat Q9x50 of similar GHz speed?

 

[Arkaign]

Maybe the question is, does Phenom II Quads beat Q9x50 of similar GHz speed?

Of course not

Hell, the top-tier chips for each socket are always $$$ until they finally just get totally worthless. Look at prices for Socket 939 Athlon X2 4800+ even today. There's one of those on fleabay right now at $138 with 16 bids (!!!) and 5 hours left. It might go as high as $160ish. That's retarded expensive for a platform as old as Socket 939, but people will pay a premium to upgrade old systems in place. The Q9550/9650 and QX series will probably be $$$ for years.

 

[OCGuy]

Blame AMD

 

[soccerballtux]

c2q's are still in high demand for all the people with older c2d's

They are still very powerful quad core chips even compared to i5's/i7's so there probably won't be a drop in used (or new if you can still find them) prices until something that really makes these old quads obsolete comes along.

It's against Intel's marketing policy to reduce the price on discontinued (aka new cpus no longer coming out) sockets.

 

[NumericalMethods]

As 775 was fading I bought a Q9550 in the UK for £170. That was the lowest it ever got priced. After about 4-5 months, supply of yorkfield quads got extremely limited. I then watched as the price for Q9550s increased by £50 at the very beginning of 2010. I eventually sold mine online after 8 months ownership for £160 and went and bought a i5 750 instead for £155.

Loved having a 'free' Q9550 for 8 months. Sadly the motherboard I had always held it back.

 

[LoneNinja]

Price has actually gone up from its all time low, and its doubtful to drop any time soon. As others have mentioned, a lot of people are willing to over pay for a cpu upgrade than replace their motherboard and in many cases ram too.

 

[Rifter]

Maybe the question is, does Phenom II Quads beat Q9x50 of similar GHz speed?

Heck no, thats why the core 2 quads are so much cash still, they are clock for clock faster than the AMD phemon II's


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=80

 

[tweakboy]

The HT cores is what makes these pricey.

QXblahblah have 8 logical cores using HT

Qblahblah has 4 logical cores.

 

[Rifter]

The HT cores is what makes these pricey.

QXblahblah have 8 logical cores using HT

Qblahblah has 4 logical cores.

can i have some of what you are smoking?

 

[Arkaign]

Heck no, thats why the core 2 quads are so much cash still, they are clock for clock faster than the AMD phemon II's

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=80

It's true that they are slightly faster clock for clock with the 8MB and 12MB quads, I'd say the 6MB and 4MB quads are roughly equal.

The reason they're still $$$ doesn't have anything to do with performance though. The $90 PhII 940BE (3ghz) is notably faster for example than the $170 Q8400 which is still available. The reason they're still $$$ is Intel policy. Hell the Q9550 is still $275 at newegg, and it gets smoked by the ~$200 i5 Lynnfield 750/760 quads. Once a product goes EOL Intel just locks the price, eases off production, and forgets about it, regardless of price competitiveness. The fact remains that a lot of folks still break down and pay the premium just for the convenience (or if in the case of a business, then sometimes company policy on upgrading an existing unit with a lot of $$$ software already installed and running) of not having to get a new mobo, ram, probable windows reload, etc, etc. This same principle applies to AMD chips as well. The top AM2 chips (for those without AM2+ capable boards), and especially the top Socket 939 duals still command ridiculous $$ when you consider better new processors are available for a fraction of the cost. The S939 X2 4800+ is a prime example, used specimens sell frequently for $150-$180, when a brand-new Propus quad of vastly increased performance is about half that.

Techies like most of the AT forum members could buy a mobo/cpu/ram for the price of the Q9550 alone and get better performance than stock by far with proper OC/tuning.

 

[Arkaign]

can i have some of what you are smoking?

Hah yeah. The Q vs QX has almost nothing to do with this. It's just that the top CPUs for a functionally obsolete socket will get a premium as folks willing to dump $$ into their existing setups move away from lower end quads and duals. An Opteron 185 (really just a dual core AMD64 w/2MB L2 @ 2.6ghz) is over $200 easily just because it's the top socket 939 CPU. It doesn't matter that it's ludicrously outpowered even by a $60 AM3 X3 CPU.

 

[Rifter]

Hah yeah. The Q vs QX has almost nothing to do with this. It's just that the top CPUs for a functionally obsolete socket will get a premium as folks willing to dump $$ into their existing setups move away from lower end quads and duals. An Opteron 185 (really just a dual core AMD64 w/2MB L2 @ 2.6ghz) is over $200 easily just because it's the top socket 939 CPU. It doesn't matter that it's ludicrously outpowered even by a $60 AM3 X3 CPU.

yeah actually now that i think about it i sold a dual core socket 939 chip on ebay for over $100 about a year ago.