Q6600 SLACR's Lessons Learned = Better Binning ?

[Tweakin]

As the summary stated, for those who wrote down the batch# from their Q6600's, I'm wondering if this relates to a lower VID as some have seen.

I just received mine and it is L804A757...Built in the Malysia plant the last week of Jan 2008...and it was batch A.

Stock VID is 1.3125 (Not the reallow low 1.225 that some have)

So far I've done (with stock Intel HS):

3.0 @ 1.23, Prime stable for 18+ hours. (luke warm ~ 62c)
3.2 @ 1.26, Prime stable for 18+ hours. (warm ~ 65c)
3.4 @ 1.33, Prime stable for 18+ hours. (hot ~ 69C)
3.6 @ 1.40 ?????
3.8 @ 1.45 ?????

 

[imported_Husky55]

I just received a Q6600 batch L804A756 Pack Date 3/17/08 and the VID is 1.325 SLACR GO

I have heard people getting VID in the range of 1.25-1.265 but all I have seen so far are the 1.325 GO. This is the second one with 1.325.

So I don't know if the binning is getting better or worse.

:disgust:

 

[sgrinavi]

Originally posted by: Husky55
I just received a Q6600 batch L804A756 Pack Date 3/17/08 and the VID is 1.325 SLACR GO

I just received mine, pack date 3/18/08, batch ended in b180, 1.326 SLACR (G0). It's OCing just like my first one, I can coax it up to 3.6, but this one is running a bit cooler.

 

[Tweakin]

Husky55:

I thought I was the only one who listened to John Prine...Love my bruised oranges!


I'm not going to push my chip any further until I get her lapped and put my Ninja back on top...the intel HS just can't handle the load, but it works for now to test stability. From looking around the forums and throughout the web, it looks as though these binned chips are running a little cooler, but with no greater headroom for OC'ing. I'll be happy with 3.0~3.2GHz on a Quad.

 

[Gillbot]

mine was 1.325 I think, there's a post somewhere around here with the info.

 

[Tweakin]

I was looking around and it seems this is fairly common...it's the 1.2xx chips that are running cool and fast. All I wanted was 3.2 on stock and I'm already there so I'm happy. I did boot into windows @ 3.6 with 1.385...but I'm not going to try anything for stability with the intel HS onboard...may I'll play some more this weekend when I finish lapping her.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: Tweakin
Husky55:

I thought I was the only one who listened to John Prine...Love my bruised oranges!

"There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes"


Good ole Nam era herion song, one of many of Prines gems:thumbsup:

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy

Originally posted by: Tweakin
Husky55:

I thought I was the only one who listened to John Prine...Love my bruised oranges!

"There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes"


Good ole Nam era herion song, one of many of Prines gems:thumbsup:

"That's the way that the world goes 'round..."

 

[Drsignguy]

Received my Q6600 on 1/27/08. VID @ 1.325. I did get it stable @ 3.2 with a vcore of 1.4825 in bios and @ full load 1.424. Anything under that, OCCT and Prime crash! Using the Tuniq 120 and load temp max @54.54.50.50.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Received my Q6600 on 1/27/08. VID @ 1.325. I did get it stable @ 3.2 with a vcore of 1.4825 in bios and @ full load 1.424. Anything under that, OCCT and Prime crash! Using the Tuniq 120 and load temp max @54.54.50.50.

That sounds like way too much vid for that speed...are you sure your temps are OK?

So far I've done (with stock Intel HS):

3.0 @ 1.23, Prime stable for 8+ hours. (luke warm ~ 62c)
3.2 @ 1.26, Prime stable for 18 hours. (warm ~ 65c)
3.4 @ 1.33, Prime stable for 18 hours. (hot ~ 69C)

 

[Drsignguy]

Yup, I tried everything to get the voltage lower but to no avail. I finally got it stable with 8 hours prime and my temps are as shown in previous post. Idol temps are 33.31.26.27

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Yup, I tried everything to get the voltage lower but to no avail. I finally got it stable with 8 hours prime and my temps are as shown in previous post. Idol temps are 33.31.26.27

Something is not making sense here...your temps should be much higher for that kind of voltage, both idle and loaded. Are you h20 blessed?

What are the full specs on your system?

 

[Drsignguy]

no lol.... I live in Minnesota and My pc's are downstairs and it very cool down here. Trying to get a snapshot ready...........



Edit: Q6600, Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R, 4x2 gig Geil Ram, Tuniq 120 tower, ATI Radeon HD 2900 pro, Vista 64 OS.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
no lol.... I live in Minnesota and My pc's are downstairs and it very cool down here.

Don't know what to say...maybe it's just a chip that doesn't want to play...

 

[bryanW1995]

what's ambient, 15c?

 

[Drsignguy]

Originally posted by: bryanW1995
what's ambient, 15c?

55 / 12.7777c

Edit: correction. Vdroop @ 1.392 @ full load...


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[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Edit: correction. Vdroop @ 1.392 @ full load...

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With temps like that I'd bump up the NB voltage a little and see what happens...maybe it's your memory that's holding you back.

3.2 is nothing to sneeze at for a quad though...that's still uber fast.

 

[Drsignguy]

Ya, it is fast! I do have the NB bumped up a notch. Memory has a range of 1.8v ~ 2.2v and I bumped it up to 2.0v. I even pulled all the sticks out and just leaving 1, and I get the same results. So, I feel that I have reached the "sweet spot" And my goal with this chip. Runs cool and no errors!

 

[imported_Husky55]

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Received my Q6600 on 1/27/08. VID @ 1.325. I did get it stable @ 3.2 with a vcore of 1.4825 in bios and @ full load 1.424. Anything under that, OCCT and Prime crash! Using the Tuniq 120 and load temp max @54.54.50.50.

That sounds like way too much vid for that speed...are you sure your temps are OK?

So far I've done (with stock Intel HS):

3.0 @ 1.23, Prime stable for 8+ hours. (luke warm ~ 62c)
3.2 @ 1.26, Prime stable for 18 hours. (warm ~ 65c)
3.4 @ 1.33, Prime stable for 18 hours. (hot ~ 69C)

I cannot lower my VID from the default 1.325V with the IP-35E. That is the lowest setting in my Vcore bios (manual). IP-35 bios is v 17 just released. It does not hold OC settings from cold boot.

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: Husky55

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: Drsignguy
Received my Q6600 on 1/27/08. VID @ 1.325. I did get it stable @ 3.2 with a vcore of 1.4825 in bios and @ full load 1.424. Anything under that, OCCT and Prime crash! Using the Tuniq 120 and load temp max @54.54.50.50.

That sounds like way too much vid for that speed...are you sure your temps are OK?

So far I've done (with stock Intel HS):

3.0 @ 1.23, Prime stable for 8+ hours. (luke warm ~ 62c)
3.2 @ 1.26, Prime stable for 18 hours. (warm ~ 65c)
3.4 @ 1.33, Prime stable for 18 hours. (hot ~ 69C)

I cannot lower my VID from the default 1.325V with the IP-35E. That is the lowest setting in my Vcore bios (manual). IP-35 bios is v 17 just released. It does not hold OC settings from cold boot.

I was using the vcore from CPUID on the thread above...this is totally different then bios readings. My 3.0 had a bios of 1.325, and each higher freq required an additional bump or two.

 

[Jessica69]

To me, it almost looks like later pack dates for the Q6600 cpus are getting higher VID's and requiring more vcore to achieve similar OC's as earlier ones.

I bought my Q6600 from Microcenter a couple of months ago.....batch L754 and pack date of 1/2/08. VID shows up as 1.238V.

So far I've successfully OC'd to 3.6GHz on 1.35V vcore and ran temps after two hours of OCCT running of 56, 56, 53, 53 across the cores. I do watercool, though.

I've had it up to 3.9GHz but required over 1.5V for stability and the temps got to around 63-66C, a little hot for my tastes, so I backed back down to 3.6GHz and 1.35V. Safe combo.....good temps. (Idles around 32C or so......)

 

[imported_Husky55]

@Tweakin,

Thanks,

 

[GeezerMan]

I'm using a Q6600, G0, Abit IP35 Pro board, all at stock speeds. The initial bios was the .14, and my reported temps seemed too good to be true both in core temp and the Abit Uguru utility.

I updated to the .16 bios, and Uguru says I idle at 56 C. , and at a load of about 80% , it says I hit 70 C.
Speedfan 4.34 and Coretemp 0.97.1 both report idle temp of 42 C. , 80% load says 56C in core temp and speedfan for the hottest of the 4 cores

Coretemp shows the correct Tjunction of 100 C, and supposedly both speedfan and Coretemp now should show accurate temps for the Q6600

Reading in the Abit forums, this seems to be a common problem, and some say use of a beta bios will show more accurate temps.

So who knows what temps really are in the Abit Pro boards

 

[Tweakin]

Originally posted by: GeezerMan
...Coretemp shows the correct Tjunction of 100 C, and supposedly both speedfan and Coretemp now should show accurate temps for the Q6600...

I believe the tjunction on the Q6600 is 95, not 100

 

[GeezerMan]

Originally posted by: Tweakin

Originally posted by: GeezerMan
...Coretemp shows the correct Tjunction of 100 C, and supposedly both speedfan and Coretemp now should show accurate temps for the Q6600...

I believe the tjunction on the Q6600 is 95, not 100

most of the forum posts I read say Tjunction is 100