Q6600 Cooling: Storm Rev 2 Vs. (old) Apogee

Painman

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Thinking about retiring the Opty 165 soon, so of course the loop needs to be torn down, new hoses cut, etc... I seem to remember when Quads first came out, the Apogee GT was outperforming the Storm by a bit due to the extra die size of the Quad vs. the jet impingement pattern of the Storm/larger cooled surface and freeflowing nature of Apogee.

However my Apogee is NOT a GT, it's the original model.

I'm more concerned about hotspots than anything else. I <3 my Storm, it's been fantastic, and I'll keep using it unless there is a serious reason not to bolt it on top of a Q6600.

If I'm gonna swap blocks, now is the time (and I'm not buying a new one right now).

Rest of the loop is a D5, MCW60, Swifty 2*120 rad.
 

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In my experience, there is minimal difference between the original Apogee and the Apogee GT. I ran the original Apogee then the Apogee GT on my Q6600, E8500 then X3330 quad and saw minimal difference. Maybe 1-2C tops by using the on board sensor and Coretemp/Realtemp but this is not the most scientific approach for comparison.
 

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Thanks.

I'm not planning to do anything really extreme with the Q6600, It will be OCed, but probably not past 4 GHz even if it wants to (for now my RAM may well hold it back considerably anyway). I just want use the block that's going to be better for it in the long run... do you think the Storm might be too prone towards cooling it unevenly, or non-issue?
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
Thanks.

I'm not planning to do anything really extreme with the Q6600, It will be OCed, but probably not past 4 GHz even if it wants to (for now my RAM may well hold it back considerably anyway). I just want use the block that's going to be better for it in the long run... do you think the Storm might be too prone towards cooling it unevenly, or non-issue?

Good luck with that. 4GHz on a Q6600 is a hefty goal, let alone past 4GHz. Many Q6600's are having a hard time pushing past 3.2-3.4GHz.
 

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Really? I was under the impression that 3.6 wasn't too lofty a goal for many of them with good mobo/PSU and cooling. I knew that 4 was not that likely, but one can always hope. :)

I'd be pleased as punch to get 3.6, really, but if what you say is true, I guess I'll have to manage my expectations accordingly.
 

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I have a Q6600 on a plain Apogee and it tops out at 3.0 if I want it to be stable. My temps are great as I have a MCR320 and 220 in the loop for cooling, but the chip just will not go any higher and stay stable. Luck of the draw.

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System specs for reference: Abit IP35 Pro / Q6600 @ 3.0Ghz on Swiftech Apogee | 4GB Crucial DDR2 1000 | Gigabyte 8800GT@700/1800 on MCW60 | MCP655 Pump | MCR320+MCR220 Rads | Scythe S-Flex SFF21F (x5) | Antec P-180B w/ window mod
 

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Well, I hope my luck of the draw is a bit better (though 3 GHz quad pumped is still a heckuva lot of power).

...So anywho, I'm seeing a pattern of quad core owners using Apogees developing here. If that observation is correct, then I'll dust mine off and use it as well.
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
Well, I hope my luck of the draw is a bit better (though 3 GHz quad pumped is still a heckuva lot of power).

...So anywho, I'm seeing a pattern of quad core owners using Apogees developing here. If that observation is correct, then I'll dust mine off and use it as well.

The Apogee will serve you fine. My only suggestion is not to get caught up in on line research with OC goals on the Q6600. The average is probably more like 3.2GHz.

Many people got caught up thinking the Q6600 will hit 3.6GHz easily, myself included. I went from air cooling to water cooling, multiple motherboards, power supplies, many different sticks of ram and I never got above 3.4GHz. Unless you get a CHERRY Q6600, a more realistic goal will be in the 3.2GHz range, especially with the newer G0 cores with the 1.325VID.
 

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Alrighty, expectation management protocols now active :)

Would still like to hear from any STORM owner though re: using it on a quad core (are there any here?).

Newegg delivery could be here tomorrow afternoon, if UPS Ground from NJ keeps its usual pace.
 

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Originally posted by: Painman
Alrighty, expectation management protocols now active :)

Would still like to hear from any STORM owner though re: using it on a quad core (are there any here?).

Newegg delivery could be here tomorrow afternoon, if UPS Ground from NJ keeps its usual pace.

I was gonna grab a Storm to check out myself but after looking at many online reviews, it appeared that it just wouldn't be worth it. Maybe someone that has one will chime in.
 

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Mine's been great on a dual core going on 2.5 years or so now, but yeah, for a quad, I wouldn't run out and buy one just for the heck of it.

Thanks for your help :)
 

Big Lar

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I have the Original Storm here. Swapped it out with a D-Tek version 1 without nozzles and found it gave me about 2c better temps. The Storm is fine, just a bit more restrictive.

Larry
 

Painman

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Stuff got here Wednesday, and I threw the Apogee back into the loop. It's doing its job of course, but it hasn't really been stressed yet (only checked for leaks).

As for the G0, well... I got it to POST at 3.6 GHz. Geting it to run at that speed, that's another matter :)