(Q) Mobile Haswell Iris vs Broadwell Iris

bergami

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I intend to buy an ultrabook for ultra mobile to work, to study and perhaps games.

With Haswell Iris 5200 it will be a remarkable achievement to get the highest battery life plus a good gaming device, reaching close to an GT 640M.

But Haswell Iris is a "tick", so it is not perfectly improved yet, with a year of feedbacks intel may release something perfect at Broadwell "tock" reaching something close to an GT 750M maybe? But my overall question is:

Should I get an ultrabook this year (haswell) or next year (broadwell)? (I have no windows mobile devince for while)

Thank you.
 

Medikit

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The real question is do you need the new device now? It always be behooves you wait with technology.
 

ViRGE

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Will Broadwell be better? Sure. But it's also a year out.

IMHO here, but you may just as well get Haswell now. If you wait a year for Broadwell, then you could just as well wait another year for Skylake, etc. Waiting a month or two for a new product is one thing, but if you're talking about waiting for whole generations then you either don't really need/want the product, or you may be expecting a bit too much in the next generation.

New products will always be better. So at some point the cost of waiting is more expensive (opportunity cost) then just using a new product now.
 

lagokc

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The 5200 isn't going into many Ultrabooks, it is only available on 47w TDP MQ parts. There are a few 28w parts that get 5100 but don't expect to play newer games at 1080p on any Intel integrated chip even the 5200.

There's a pretty substantial trade off between performance and weight and we aren't to the point where you can pack decent gaming performance into an ultrabook even if you're willing to spend a lot of money. Maybe if Skylake implements DDR4, but that's to far into the future to be worth speculating about.

If you absolutely need a thin form factor then you sacrifice gaming performance. If you need mobile and gaming get a thicker laptop.
 

Piroko

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But Haswell Iris is a "tick", so it is not perfectly improved yet, with a year of feedbacks intel may release something perfect at Broadwell "tock" reaching something close to an GT 750M maybe?
I don't think ULV Broadwell will be able to get close to that performance level.
Just compare this to that, current ulv chips are quite a lot slower than HD5200, let alone a GT650m/GT750m. They'd have to more than double their perf. per Watt to get there with Broadwell, that's stretching it imho.

edit: saw that ulv hd5000 will probably add a bit on top of that performance. Still doubt broadwell @ 15W and GT750m level will happen.
 
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ShintaiDK

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Sandy Bridge was GPU generation 6.
Ivy Bridge 7.
Haswell 7+.

And Broadwell will be a new GPU uarch with generation 8.
 

bergami

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720p is just fine, although I'd like to play newer games and don't lose my mobility or baterry life
 
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jiffylube1024

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It depends on what you need. If you need a laptop at all, I'd recommend looking into a Haswell/Iris Ultrabook as they should be pretty awesome and have good battery life.