Q&A: Why Honda is obsessed with gas mileage

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: Kipper

Originally posted by: ShadowBlade
whats the highest mileage youve ever seen on a honda that still ran well?
diesel trucks can run over a million and (among other things) still tow at their highest capacity

You're comparing long-distance hauling trucks and daily stop-and-go passenger cars?

Something is wrong here.

My friend's dad has a work truck (F250) that has over 300k miles on it (V8 Diesel). Engine outlasted 2 transmissions.

I have a 1982 Datsun 210 with the A14 engine and a 5 speed. It has 349,832 miles on the original engine, and to this day it has the original *TIMING CHAIN* on it. The worst thing I've ever replaced was the clutch (2 hours and $80) and the ONLY engine component I've replaced was the EGR valve ($30) at 302,000 miles.

You can't, generally, compare Diesel engines to gasoline engines and have a valid comparison. My Datsun, which I've had since 1990, is a gasoline engine car. You'll NEVER find an American made car with this level of reliability.

Jason

 

[dudeman007]

Originally posted by: ShadowBlade
thats the only thing they can attempt to sell their "cars" on
otherwise they blow

yeah...stfu

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
Video of another million mile accord (a wagon, just like mine!)

the one i was thinking of was a 94 sedan.

bah, those are canadian miles, so they're only 1/3 of a real mile

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Otaking
:thumbsup: Honda

:thumbsdown:

 

[ArmchairAthlete]

Hondas are great.

 

[reallyscrued]

Why Honda is obsessed with gas mileage

I think the real question should be, why aren't other companies?

I used to love driving my '93 corolla passed some idiot who is driving a Z28 or even a towncar, getting less than 20 miles to the gallon, fixing it up everytime it godamn rains.

"Taking care" of japanese cars is as easy as getting the oil changed. It maintains it self, and more often than not, when something goes wrong, its normally not serious. Tie that up with the gas milliage and insanely high resell value and its a win-win. (Unless anything under 200 horses turn you off.)

 

[Aftermath]

I just filled up my '95 Accord wagon a few days ago. I managed to catch the "cheap" stuff at $2.69/gal before it went up to $3.09/gal.

Cost me just over $33 for a full tank, but I got 36mpg out of it, no highway driving.

 

[gsellis]

It boils down to Mr. Honda. He was an engineer's engineer. Cars were a passion and he wanted them to be the most powerful and most efficient they could be. That is why Honda has stuck with atmo engines while everyone else throws turbos on them to make more HP. That also explains the history in racing. The company still reflects many aspects of its creator.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: Gibson486

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: J0hnny

Originally posted by: iamwiz82

Originally posted by: Kenny1234

Originally posted by: Toastedlightly

Originally posted by: AgaBoogaBoo

Originally posted by: Sheepathon
Japanese cars last longer than you'd ever want them to. I have a 93 camry dx, 5spd, 148k miles, 2.2liter 130hp engine, gets 22-30mpg, and it's still zipping around just fine 🙂
My aunt had an old accord that went well over 200k WITHOUT regular oil changes, haha.

<--- 91 Accord with ~171k miles and origional clutch/tranny/engine/etc.

<--- 98 Grand Prix w/ 181k miles and original engine and tranny (needed a head gasket fix at ~100k miles (before I got it)). Cars last if you take care of them.

yeah but a honda or toyota will last just as long without taking care of it

It's funny you say that because every late model Civic/Accord I see is spewing oil to the extent that the rear of the car is totally blackened.

Are you serious? You can't be.

Oh I am very serious. Next time instead of pleasuring yourself to a 1992 Accord, take a look at the backend.

my aunts 2001 altima, which was handed down to and I hate, went without an oil change for about 12,000 miles. The thing still runs perfectly, but the gas mileage is only 19mpg, but she said she got that gas mileage about 4 months fater she bought the car new.

My sister went 60k on her Sentra before she did her 1st oil change.

Tom

 

[NiKeFiDO]

bc gas is worth more than your life

edit: nm, just read the post 😉

 

[Eli]

Excuses.

Then Honda needs to redesign it's PR machine.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: reallyscrued

Why Honda is obsessed with gas mileage

I think the real question should be, why aren't other companies?

I used to love driving my '93 corolla passed some idiot who is driving a Z28 or even a towncar, getting less than 20 miles to the gallon, fixing it up everytime it godamn rains.

"Taking care" of japanese cars is as easy as getting the oil changed. It maintains it self, and more often than not, when something goes wrong, its normally not serious. Tie that up with the gas milliage and insanely high resell value and its a win-win. (Unless anything under 200 horses turn you off.)

2000 Honda Accord EX V6 200hp win-win-win?


Tom

 

[Kalbi]

they're japanese that's why...

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: Budmantom

my aunts 2001 altima, which was handed down to and I hate, went without an oil change for about 12,000 miles. The thing still runs perfectly, but the gas mileage is only 19mpg, but she said she got that gas mileage about 4 months fater she bought the car new.

My sister went 60k on her Sentra before she did her 1st oil change.

Tom[/quote]
A friend in the 80's was a Lambo, Ferrari, Renault certified mechanic. Had to replace a Lamborgini V-12 to the tune of $100,000 for parts and labor. Analysis, engine had insufficient oil. When queried, the owner said, "it's a Lamborgini, it didn't need oil." DOH (by the way, the owner was not male)

Side note - that friend was flown up to Detroit to work the pits for Renault at the F1 race. That was so major cool.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: ShadowBlade
thats the only thing they can attempt to sell their "cars" on
otherwise they blow

I almost said what about the Solora, but then i realized thats a toyota....

 

[Queasy]

Toyota and Nissan have large SUVs to compete with Detroit's big boys. Could Honda ever bring itself to develop a hulking SUV?

We don't get the Hummer, we just don't get it. There would not be a lot of motivation within Honda to develop the Hummer. We would be saying we could make it lighter, we can make it have better fuel economy. But in the end, it's certainly not a Hummer. It's closer to a Pilot. So we're at cross-purposes with a vehicle like a Hummer.

I don't see Toyota or Nissan making Hummers either. I don't see any other car manufactures making anything like the Hummer as well. Complete sidestepping the question.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Toyota and Nissan have large SUVs to compete with Detroit's big boys. Could Honda ever bring itself to develop a hulking SUV?

We don't get the Hummer, we just don't get it. There would not be a lot of motivation within Honda to develop the Hummer. We would be saying we could make it lighter, we can make it have better fuel economy. But in the end, it's certainly not a Hummer. It's closer to a Pilot. So we're at cross-purposes with a vehicle like a Hummer.

I don't see Toyota or Nissan making Hummers either. I don't see any other car manufactures making anything like the Hummer as well. Complete sidestepping the question.

Not really, Ford has the Excursion. Cadilac has the Escalade. GM has that big SUV. Sure they may not be bullet proof monsters like the hummer, but they are just as big, and take just as much gas.