Pyramids were built with concrete rather than rocks, scientists claim

Ausm

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The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



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Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Ausm
The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



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Pyramids at Giza: 2500BC
Chariots in Egypt: 1500BC
 

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



Ausm

Pyramids at Giza: 2500BC
Chariots in Egypt: 1500BC

Wrongo, The oldest wheel was discovered in Mesopotamia and probably dates back to 3,500 B.C. Also, many credible historians believe the wheel dates back to 5000 to 6000 B.C. and was created in Asia.

Ausm
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



Ausm

Pyramids at Giza: 2500BC
Chariots in Egypt: 1500BC

Wrongo, The oldest wheel was discovered in Mesopotamia and probably dates back to 3,500 B.C.

Ausm
What does that have to do with chariots in tombs? Or with Egypt? Mesopotamia != Egypt.
Obviously the wheel came before the chariot. But oldest wheel and varying uses of wheels in specific places or manners do not necessarily have any relationship.
 

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Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



Ausm

Pyramids at Giza: 2500BC
Chariots in Egypt: 1500BC

Wrongo, The oldest wheel was discovered in Mesopotamia and probably dates back to 3,500 B.C.

Ausm
What does that have to do with chariots in tombs? Or with Egypt? Mesopotamia != Egypt.
Obviously the wheel came before the chariot. But oldest wheel and varying uses of wheels in specific places or manners do not necessarily have any relationship.

Well if you know anything about the growth of civilization then you would understand how there could be a relationship there.

Ausm
 

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Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



Ausm

Pyramids at Giza: 2500BC
Chariots in Egypt: 1500BC

Wrongo, The oldest wheel was discovered in Mesopotamia and probably dates back to 3,500 B.C.

Ausm
What does that have to do with chariots in tombs? Or with Egypt? Mesopotamia != Egypt.
Obviously the wheel came before the chariot. But oldest wheel and varying uses of wheels in specific places or manners do not necessarily have any relationship.

Well if you know anything about the growth of civilization then you would understand how there could be a relationship there.

Ausm


Simply because the wheel had been invented in one region, does not mean it was instantly available in another.
 

Kelvrick

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Originally posted by: Insomniator
The creator of the wheel is clearly the man.

Can you imagine their conversations in heaven?

People like Alexander Graham bell and his phone, Thomas Edison and all his stuff, but this guy pimp slaps them all with his "I invented the wheel, bitch!"
 

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Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



Ausm

Pyramids at Giza: 2500BC
Chariots in Egypt: 1500BC

Wrongo, The oldest wheel was discovered in Mesopotamia and probably dates back to 3,500 B.C.

Ausm
What does that have to do with chariots in tombs? Or with Egypt? Mesopotamia != Egypt.
Obviously the wheel came before the chariot. But oldest wheel and varying uses of wheels in specific places or manners do not necessarily have any relationship.

Well if you know anything about the growth of civilization then you would understand how there could be a relationship there.

Ausm


Simply because the wheel had been invented in one region, does not mean it was instantly available in another.

I think he was suggesting you should find out the region where early Egyptians came from. But yes, that sentence about the wheel struck me as very odd. Some people claim they used pulleys, however the wheel was not around. One of those claims is obviously not correct :).
 

Fenixgoon

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I work for the professor from Drexel.. he is the man :)

I'm on a different project though
 

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Originally posted by: Kelvrick
Originally posted by: Insomniator
The creator of the wheel is clearly the man.

Can you imagine their conversations in heaven?

People like Alexander Graham bell and his phone, Thomas Edison and all his stuff, but this guy pimp slaps them all with his "I invented the wheel, bitch!"

Except no "guy" invented the wheel. People rolled things on logs. Then someone got the idea of attaching the logs to the cart, but to do that, you needed to make the part you attached smaller. Then another guy came along and made two pieces and attached them together. Then centuries later another guy came along and realized that you could use spokes instead of a solid wheel to make it lighter. Then millenia passed, and some guy realized that you could but some sort of tire on the wheel. Then rubber was invented and the metal rim got replaced by a rubber one. Then someone created the inflatable tire...and so on...until we get the modern wheel.

Now, harnessing fire. That guy was ballsy.
 

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I have a hard time believing this. Concrete is credited to the Romans as the inventors. Until my professor passes the report down to us (as he likes to do with stuff like this), I'm gonna have to be extremely skeptical.
 

Fern

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Makes sense to me. I've long thought that was it was instead of cutting/hauling stones. Explains how seamlessly they fit together as well.

They didn't need the wheel before 1500BC. They used the Goa'uld space ships for travel until the great slave rebellion when Raa ( or was Apophis) was kicked out.

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Originally posted by: Ausm
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: Ausm
The wheel wasn't invented then?? How do the explain they Chariot's found in the tombs?



Ausm

Pyramids at Giza: 2500BC
Chariots in Egypt: 1500BC

Wrongo, The oldest wheel was discovered in Mesopotamia and probably dates back to 3,500 B.C. Also, many credible historians believe the wheel dates back to 5000 to 6000 B.C. and was created in Asia.

Ausm

Chariots weren't introduced into Egypt until the Hyksos invasion in the Second Intermediate Period. The Egyptians didn't have indigenous horses to pull the chariots. The arrival of the Hyksos introduced horses. They hadn't domesticated the Camel till much later. For reference, the Great Pyramids were built in the 5th Dynasty while the 2nd Intermediate period started during the 13th Dynasty.
 

Baked

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Chinese invented everything. Then whiteys came, stole the ideas, and patented them.
 

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GAAAh...this stupid pouring theory has already been disproven many times! If they were "poured", why is there still a gap between each individual brick? Wouldn't they be all one long strip? It's idiotic.
 

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Originally posted by: Horus
GAAAh...this stupid pouring theory has already been disproven many times! If they were "poured", why is there still a gap between each individual brick? Wouldn't they be all one long strip? It's idiotic.

Wouldn't you make each a block to allow for expansion/contraction?

 

Fern

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Originally posted by: Horus
GAAAh...this stupid pouring theory has already been disproven many times! If they were "poured", why is there still a gap between each individual brick? Wouldn't they be all one long strip? It's idiotic.

The material used for the "mold" has long ago rotten away.

Fern
 

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this is pretty dumb, i dont buy it.

first of all, the pyramids are some of the oldest structures the ancient egyptians built. had they been able to make cement, they would've used that know how in their later constructions in luxor and aswan. they obviously didnt. obelisks, which didnt start appearing until centuries after the pyramids, were undeniably quarried out of limestone. proof of that can be found at this aswan quarry.

also, i think the egyptians had some concept of the wheel. they worshipped the scarab, after all, an insect known for rolling balls of dirt over the ground.

the article, in my opinion, is full of it.