PWM fans on gpu

carsonw123

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My parts list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xndxjy
Since EVGA lets you take apart the GPU and it won't void your warranty as long as you don't cause the issue.
I was thinking about taking off the cooling fans and shroud and exposing the heatsink fins and pipes to be cooled by 2 corsair PWM fans.
I was wondering how I would go about setting up the PWM function to work with GPU temps for quietness.
 

UsandThem

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The EVGA stock cooling fans are fine on a RTX 2070 card, so it seems to be an unnecessary step to me. Not to mention the case in your list has a mount for two 120mm fans to help keep the card cool, so I don't know why you would want to remove the fans from the card.

Just use a utility like EVGA's to set the GPU fans to a silent profile, and the two 120mm fans will keep it cool, and the card's fans will never get ramp up and get loud.

https://youtu.be/YsDW0Q9Jeas?t=238
 

carsonw123

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That's nice but it will make it quieter and cooler. There is also mounting for 2 120mm fans right in front of the GPU so I won't need to make a janky solution using zip ties. People have also done it but the build they use a strix card which has GPU PWM headers. I was just wondering if it is possible to set up the PWM fans to ramp up with GPU temps through the PWM header on the motherboard.
 

UsandThem

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That's nice but it will make it quieter and cooler. There is also mounting for 2 120mm fans right in front of the GPU so I won't need to make a janky solution using zip ties. People have also done it but the build they use a strix card which has GPU PWM headers. I was just wondering if it is possible to set up the PWM fans to ramp up with GPU temps through the PWM header on the motherboard.

I'm not sure what you mean by the fans ramping up based on the GPU temp via your motherboard headers mean? The motherboard PWM connectors are based on the motherboard's or CPU temperature. It has nothing to do with your GPU temps. Your GPU has a BIOS that handles the fan profile and settings.

I understand people removing the fans to put a block on there for water-cooling, but to remove the fans just to have case fans try and handle the heat is different beast than that. I really doubt that removing the fans from the GPU will make it cooler. There's a reason why fans are directly attached to the fins on things like GPU and CPU heatsinks, as they are engineered that way to assist in quickly removing the heat.

But it's your PC and your project, so if that's something you want to do, then I hope it works out for you.
 
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carsonw123

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It's okay. Now I know if you connect through a fan splitter on your PWM header on motherboard you can install a program called speedfan and set up a fan curve based on GPU temps. Thanks for helping.
 

UsandThem

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It's okay. Now I know if you connect through a fan splitter on your PWM header on motherboard you can install a program called speedfan and set up a fan curve based on GPU temps. Thanks for helping.

The PWM headers on your motherboard has nothing to do with your GPU temps. Now I'm sure you could splice cables to run the fans from that header, but it I do not see how it would be able to do anything with your GPU temps. The sensors that motherboards use only monitor the motherboard and CPU temps.

I used to use Speed Fan many years ago, and I know it can sometimes allow a user to create a fan profile and see the temps (it's nowhere good as it used to be in those regards), but I still don't see how it can use a motherboard PWM header to monitor or control what the GPU temps are. But you seem sure it will work, and it's your PC, so all I will say is good luck. :)
 

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OP, you hold an underlying assumption here that I doubt is true. You believe that any PWM fan is going to be significantly quieter than the fans already installed on the graphics card. Why?

There are lots of posts and stories around that talk about older-style 3- pin fans being 'way too noisy because they cannot be speed controlled. Almost all of them are based on false info. It is true that the speed of a 3-pin fan can NOT be controlled by a fan header that is using the newer PWM Mode to control its fan. BUT if you change the header's configuration to use the older Voltage Control Mode (aka DC Mode) it CAN exercise proper control. I am SURE that, whichever fan type is included on the graphics card you are buying, its design INCLUDES ALREADY the proper type of speed control Mode, and that card WILL automatically control its fans' speeds according to its temperatures.

If you want to see the LACK of difference due to motor type, look up fan makers who sell matching fans with either 3-pin or 4-pin motors. A good example is Noctua. There you will find many cases of fans of the same design that produce identical fan speed, air flow, backpressure and noise ratings but differ only in the type of motor used.

Now, there ARE differences among fans in air flow, backpressure and noise generation that are rooted in the fan design, and NOT in the type of motor used. So it is possible that you could find some PWM-type fans that generate the airflow you need against the backpressure imposed by the heatsinks on that card, and still generate less noise than the stock fans. To do that, FIRST you need the exact specs of the stock fans you propose to replace. THEN you have a basis for searching out alternatives with matching performance AND less noise generation. Unless you can do that, you have no assurance that your plan will work.

You should be aware of another factor. I don;t know what type of fans are already on that graphics card. IF htye are 4-pin PWM-type fans, why would you make the change? But IF they are 3-pin fans, I have no doubt the fan control system built into the graphics card will be by Voltage Control Mode, and cannot be changed. So even though you change to PWM type fans, the actual control of them will be by the older Mode, which CAN work but is not as good as proper PWM Mode for those fans, and basically eliminates the advantage you seek.

Now, I can see that you plan insterad to have the a mobo header that uses proper PWM Mode to control the new fans you propose to install. BUT that also means you have ASSUMED that your graphics card does send out its temperatire control signal on a contact of the card's PCIe slot so that software can access that info and use it to direct a mobo header. Many cards do that, and the utilities that come with the card can read the temperature info and show it to you. But whether or not any third-part software can then access that info and use it is another assumption you would need to verify before proceeding.
 

carsonw123

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The software SpeedFan can detect your GPU temps and you can override the PWM function through software and set it to ramp up with GPU temps on the software through a custom fan curve.
 

UsandThem

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The software SpeedFan can detect your GPU temps and you can override the PWM function through software and set it to ramp up with GPU temps on the software through a custom fan curve.

Myself, Paperdoc, and just about every long time user knows that.

It's the other stuff you aren't considering. But like I said before, good luck.
 

Rifter

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I agree with everyone else, this is a bad idea, and alot of work that will probably not yield any positive results.