PvP Flagging in Warhammer? Lame

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Anubis

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Originally posted by: Bushwicktrini
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Bushwicktrini
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Genx87
EA is getting thier hands involved I see. Clearly trying to make it WoWesque with the hope it will somehow be as successful.

Should be interesting to see how else they will dumb it down for the masses by release.

The people spoke with their money. They told every MMORPG developer out there that they don't want a complex or engaging game, but, rather, a nice shiny treadmill.

What is "complex or engaging" about PVP in a MMO? PVP in MMO's is about gear, levels over target and how much backup you have. SWG, WOW EVE take your pick it's all the same. If I see you and I have better gear your dead, I see you and I have 10+ levels on you your dead, I see you and I have three or more friend with me your dead. What is complex or engaging about that?

thats not totally true if the gear or lvl difference isnt massive Skill can and often does win out, sometimes even the numbers difference,


In WOW 10+ means death unless your a twink,he/she is an idiot or your a warlock/hunter cause fear/trap owns ;)

yea i said when the lvl diff IS NOT MASSIVE, 10 is pretty huge, 5 is totally manageable for certian classes

and yes locks own, gonna get home and get me some more honor points farmin AV, when the patch hits ill have a full set of season 1 gear, HEHEHE
 

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Dangerer
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Oakenfold
Originally posted by: PaulNEPats
Originally posted by: pontifex
ruh roh! you can't gank low level players now?

What it means is now an enemy can enter the same pve areas as you, disable the pvp flag, and there's nothing you can do about it. Not exactly a thrilling idea considering the game is called Warhammer.

That's really weak. It should be PvP on or PvE only. This game is starting to sound like WoW.

Originally posted by: pontifex
it seems like its always the same type of people who complain about stuff like this - leet dood gankers. not that i'm suggesting you're one of them, but those are the only type of people that i can imagine having an issue with this.

if i wanted to spend my limited play time doing a pve quest (something I want to do witn my time and technically my money), i shouldn't have to worry about some idiot with nothing better to do than to harass me.

I disagree. The beauty of pvp is that it makes doing that quest that much harder and imo it makes it more real. The risk vs. reward concept, you appreciate the little things that much more plus don't you think by having certain protections in place it makes the game less realistic?
I'll give an example, orc is farming ore, nightelf is also farming ore. They both want the ore. They have racial tensions, would it not be assumed that they would fight over that which they desire? With protections in place (level limits, zone protection, team protections) it prevents this natural occurrence from happening.

Just my .02 Pontifex.

A general comment, I thought the goal of this game was to cater more towards the pvp crowd?

you do have a point. but fireballs and dragons are realistic? :p sorry, had to through in that old cliched saying.

I don't care for PVP in MMOs to begin with. Most of the time its all about who has the better gear or who is higher in level, not any skill at all. go play a fps or rts if you want PVP.

I played on a PVP WoW server for a little while. The only reason I did so was because I had some friends who played on it. Every time I would go out to try to do quests to level up or get gear, I would get ganked by 7-8 players of the opposite team who were at minimum 10 levels above me. I believe I was at lvl 28 or 29 when I quit. Most of the time I would try to quest in a neutral area, I'd get ganked and camped by 7-8 people who were at least lvl 38. Just one of them could have kicked my ass, but they needed 8 of them? Why would they even bother with someone so low? I don't think they got any xp or points or anything for it. It was just to harass other people. WTF are you supposed to do?

If it was a fair fight it wouldn't be so bad, but that rarely happens.

When I'm trying to level or do quests, dying every 5 minutes and not getting anything done is a huge fucking waste of my (limited) time. I'm was paying money to play this game and I can't even fucking enjoy it?

Maybe all my PVP experiences are just bad ones? I just don't think it belongs in an MMO.

wow you must have been some kind of a magnet for gankers. I've been playing wow since release on multiple PVP servers and have never experienced anything that severe.


your in the minority, ive seen people camped for hours by the same group of people, the victm normally just logs off, its happened to me before, playing an alt in hillsbrad i was killed and camped by 9 lvl 70s, for about 9 hours, and yes really 9 FUCKING HOURS, reason i know this is cause i can dual box, so instead of loggin off i just used the other comp and got on my main and yes 9 hours later they were still there and killed me every time i tried to rez and run away, i actually thought it was funny, id die and like 10 min later id rez and try and run and get killed again, then id go back to doing whatever on my main

its actually sad that people have nothing better to do in some games then harass those just trying to play it, alot of people quit WoW after TBC came out because so many people at 70 would just camp low lvl zones,

ive never understood why or how someone can take pleasure in ruining a game for someone else


You are right, but I did not have the patience for 9 hours of ganking. I wispered my guildys and as soon as the gankers saw them they logged off. They were not interested in PvP or making a realistic game experience, just bored idiots messing with people.
 

Bushwicktrini

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Bushwicktrini
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: Bushwicktrini
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Genx87
EA is getting thier hands involved I see. Clearly trying to make it WoWesque with the hope it will somehow be as successful.

Should be interesting to see how else they will dumb it down for the masses by release.

The people spoke with their money. They told every MMORPG developer out there that they don't want a complex or engaging game, but, rather, a nice shiny treadmill.

What is "complex or engaging" about PVP in a MMO? PVP in MMO's is about gear, levels over target and how much backup you have. SWG, WOW EVE take your pick it's all the same. If I see you and I have better gear your dead, I see you and I have 10+ levels on you your dead, I see you and I have three or more friend with me your dead. What is complex or engaging about that?

thats not totally true if the gear or lvl difference isnt massive Skill can and often does win out, sometimes even the numbers difference,


In WOW 10+ means death unless your a twink,he/she is an idiot or your a warlock/hunter cause fear/trap owns ;)

yea i said when the lvl diff IS NOT MASSIVE, 10 is pretty huge, 5 is totally manageable for certian classes

and yes locks own, gonna get home and get me some more honor points farmin AV, when the patch hits ill have a full set of season 1 gear, HEHEHE

<----70 lock :)

But that brings up a point that Warhammer has yet to address OP'd classes/spells in PVP
I heard the statment about "yes there will be some OP classes" when everyone rolls those classes then what? I'm an old SWG player (TK/Swordsman anyone?) and I hope like hell what happend there dosen't happen to WAR