Putting dell crap into a new case.

[John]

Zombeh seems to be catching a lot of flak. :Q FWIW I see nothing wrong with him wanting to strip parts out of his current Dell and use them in the new build. Why some of you have a problem with this is beyond me. Once he get's the rest of his new parts he can put the old ones back into the Dell. Sounds logical to me.....

Slugbait, judging from your replies I think you are confused. Even if Zombeh wants to beat the tar out of his Dell and scrap it in the landfill why does this bother you? I've upgraded dozens of my customer's Dell pc's over the years when they are OOW or want to salvage everything but the board/psu/case. Have a cold one on me :beer:

 

[Zombeh]

Originally posted by: Slugbait

Originally posted by: Zombeh
then can you please edit the rudeness and sarcasm?

If I were to do that, the entertainment quotient would be below the bar for the majority of AnandTech forum members.

cool

Originally posted by: John
Zombeh seems to be catching a lot of flak. :Q FWIW I see nothing wrong with him wanting to strip parts out of his current Dell and use them in the new build. Why some of you have a problem with this is beyond me. Once he get's the rest of his new parts he can put the old ones back into the Dell. Sounds logical to me.....

Slugbait, judging from your replies I think you are confused. Even if Zombeh wants to beat the tar out of his Dell and scrap it in the landfill why does this bother you? I've upgraded dozens of my customer's Dell pc's over the years when they are OOW or want to salvage everything but the board/psu/case. Have a cold one on me :beer:

exactly! thank you


can i get more opinions on the case?

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: John
Even if Zombeh wants to beat the tar out of his Dell and scrap it in the landfill why does this bother you?

Here's the point: even with a meticulously worded Q&A session that specifically itemized components that would be completely and utterly useless, he still continued to reply as if I were talking about items that would not be useless.

In other words, dumping his box into a landfill doesn't bother me. If he wants to spend all that money and time for no gain other than a potentially noisy power supply, fine. Just pointing it out. At least I talked him out of those two Intel boards...something good came from my replies after all. Oh wait, that's right, as he said I didn't help in the least bit. My bad.

 

[Zombeh]

i've heard and seen the psu in person and its not noisy. the 120mm fan is quiet. and you did not talk me out of 2 motherboards, im still getting the 2nd one i posted, the first one was linked to the wrong one i had in mind. im not planning to overclock.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
i've heard and seen the psu in person and its not noisy. the 120mm fan is quiet. and you did not talk me out of 2 motherboards, im still getting the 2nd one i posted, the first one was linked to the wrong one i had in mind. im not planning to overclock.

Tbh if you're not going to overclock I'd just buy another newer Dell. System tweaking is the most compelling reason anymore for building your own computer. You can buy a Dell cheaper than you can build one yourself.

If you really want to build one, I'd strongly suggest getting a mb that supports overclocking. That way you'll at least have the option in the future if you change your mind.


Edit: Whoops, I didn't even look at the second board you posted That looks like a good one. Like others said though I wouldn't upgrade now if you're not going to overclock your current cpu. You won't get any performance increase, and better parts will be available for less money when you do plan to upgrade.

 

[Zombeh]

i probably will end up doing some overclocking, i know my current p4 is capable of going 3.8 ghz. so if i get that board i will definatly experiment and push my current cpu a little.

 

[MadMan2k]

The XP license from OEM computers will be valid to install windows XP from a standard disc, but will not usually activate over the internet. If nothing has changed in the ~9 months since I've done it last, Microsoft WILL give you an activation code over the phone. Tell them it's only installed on one computer, and it will be legal if that's true.

Just say that the number was from a Dell if they ask, and if they ask where you bought it, say directly from Dell. It's a partially automated system until you get to the rep, so they shouldn't ask why you're activating over the phone and you shouldn't have to tell them it's because the internet activation utility found that the hardware didn't match.

Yes, the old stuff might be only good for a landfill, but it's pretty good for target practice or throwing up in the air as high as you can until you bring it there
(Or you could keep it around as spares)

 

[Rike]

Originally posted by: MadMan2k
The XP license from OEM computers will be valid to install windows XP from a standard disc, but will not usually activate over the internet. If nothing has changed in the ~9 months since I've done it last, Microsoft WILL give you an activation code over the phone. Tell them it's only installed on one computer, and it will be legal if that's true.

Just say that the number was from a Dell if they ask, and if they ask where you bought it, say directly from Dell. It's a partially automated system until you get to the rep, so they shouldn't ask why you're activating over the phone and you shouldn't have to tell them it's because the internet activation utility found that the hardware didn't match.

In other words, lie, cheat, and steal. :disgust:

 

[CDC Mail Guy]

I did exactly what you did, and the MAJOR benefit from doing it was I was able to OC and be able to read my temps (Not able to do with the Dell). It was quite a fun project.

 

[Zombeh]

thanks i will do that. and yes i agree that it will be a majoy benefit, dells suck.

 

[Spicedaddy]

Dell OEM Windows XP CD won't even install if it doesn't detect a Dell BIOS, so if you ditch your motherboard, say goodbye to your XP license. It might install with a generic OEM XP CD, but then it won't activate and you'll have to call MS and explain why you have a Dell OEM serial on a non-Dell motherboard...

 

[Zombeh]

well i'll just get a new windows cd somehow

 

[Boyo]

Does anyone want to tell him that PSU is a piece of junk. You are going to need a better PSU than that, especially with DX10 cards coming out now.

 

[Zombeh]

do i need more wattage? i heard the dx10 cards will run ona 450 watt psu.

 

[Zombeh]

what psu would you recommend?

 

[Zombeh]

?

 

[bamacre]

What video card are you planning on putting in this system? I mean after the X850 XT card. Higher-end video cards will require a better power supply, something with good 12V rails.

You will also want to get at least DDR2 533mhz memory when you get a Core 2 Duo, otherwise you won't get the full 1066mhz front side bus.

 

[Zombeh]

i will probably wait a while tillt he 8800's drop in price, then grab one of those. and i was also going to get 2x1gb ddr2 800.

 

[Pretty Cool]

Actually, the Dell power supplies are fairly decent even though they are labeled at a measly 305W. By the way, the PSU is not proprietary. It is just a regular 24-pin ATX/BTX unit. If you end up ditching the old Dell barebones, I would hardly call what remains worthless. Because the motherboard & case are required for Dell systems, they are worth more than your regular used parts.

 

[lxskllr]

Dell has very nice psus. I ran all kinds of stuff of the 250w that came with my system.

P4 3.06
BFG 6800oc overclocked further
2 hard drives
2 optical drives
floppy drive
4 case fans
all pci slots filled with stuff

 

[Zombeh]

yeah they aren't bad at all, i'm running my p4, x850xtpe, a harddrive, and 4 case fans. i'd use this psu in my new build but, my new motherboard is only 20 pin and dells use 24 (no optional 4-pin)

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
yeah they aren't bad at all, i'm running my p4, x850xtpe, a harddrive, and 4 case fans. i'd use this psu in my new build but, my new motherboard is only 20 pin and dells use 24 (no optional 4-pin)

You can still use a 24pin psu. Just let the 4 unused pins hang over the edge of the socket. That's what you have to do with some psus anyway. Not all come with a modular 4 pin plug.