Putting dell crap into a new case.

[Zombeh]

Well its that time...christmas building time.


i'm planning on putting alot of my stuff from my dell 4700 into a new case till i upgrade after christmas. so this is what i want to buy:

I'm getting this case. (need your input on this case before tomorrow night, i want to get free shipping )

This motherboard (compatible with my p4 and future c2d)

and this psu


Now i'm going to put my x850xtpe, hdd, dvd player, ddr2 400, along with my p4 (for now till c2d purchase) in it.

now is there anything else i need to get? any cables, etc?

 

[Rike]

Why are you moving stuff over? It seems like a lot of hassle for no benefit. Just wait until you have all your new parts and then move.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Are Dell mobo's using standard ATX mounting holes now? Last time I remember messing with one, they were proprietary (albeit that was some time ago)...

 

[Zombeh]

To be honest, i don't really know. how is it non beneficial? i'm going to keep that stuff when i upgrade the cpu and ram after christmas.


but yes dells motherboards are still weird with their holes and size which is why i have to get a new motherboard or else id swap it over to the new case.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Why not keep using the Dell as-is, the new parts won't help performance and you might damage something while moving the old parts (like breaking a CPU pin).

Once you have money for a C2D system, buy everything and then sell the Dell (including the P4) as a barebones on eBay.

Good motherboards will probably be cheaper by then too.

 

[Rike]

It's probably fine, it's just that you'll have to get into your case again and do the proc/heat sink swap once you have everything in place. It just seems to me that you should just do everything at the same time. But if you don't care about that, don't listen to me.

Your new mobo, case, and PSU should have all the cables you need.

Is your HDD IDE or SATA? That could give you some trouble cable wise if your HDD and DVD drive are both IDE, as that board only has one IDE port. (Yes, the single IDE port it will support two drives, but the placement in the case could be a problem.)

 

[Slugbait]

Case is OK, but WAAAAYYYY too big for the mobo you have chosen.

As far as the other components, the mobo allows for almost zero expansion, you will pull out your hair trying to find compatible RAM that will run at 800, good luck getting your Radeon to work with it, and it will not allow you to overclock either your current CPU or the C2D. Sounds like the least-fun mobo I have ever seen.

The PSU squeals. My money sez your future DX10 card will smoke it.

You get nothing by doing this today. I'm wondering why you are wasting all this money...

 

[Zombeh]

oops i linked to the wrong motherboard. its updated now.

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
oops i linked to the wrong motherboard. its updated now.

It's almost nicer than the wrong mobo...the key word being "almost".

Again, you gain nothing more than something to dump in a landfill.

 

[Zombeh]

updated again . why do you think its a landfill? i must be gaining something going from a dell to a custom built. so everyone you are recommending that i just get it all at one time? its soooo hard to wait.

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
why do you think its a landfill?

I personally would never even consider buying a Dell case with a Dell PSU and a Dell motherboard...unless it came with a CPU, memory, optical drives, keyboard, mouse and monitor. Printer with new cartridges would sweeten the deal, but not guarantee it.

In other words, the possibility anyone will buy a gutted Dell box is slim to none...as a result, that stuff goes into a landfill.

i must be gaining something going from a dell to a custom built.

You gain literally nothing. Nothing at all. I take that back: you might gain annoying noise from the new PSU, but nothing else.

 

[Rike]

Yes, it's hard to wait. But prices may fall a bit on the mobo and CPU and when you have all the money, then you just do it.

Also, don't forget about a new OS. In my experience, MS will not let you move your current WinXP license to what is basically a new rig.

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: Rike
Also, don't forget about a new OS. In my experience, MS will not let you move your current WinXP license to what is basically a new rig.

Incorrect:

13. SOFTWARE TRANSFER. Internal. You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer.

However, Rike reminds me of an important issue: if you just plan to plug in the drive to the new mobo and boot, you will likely end up formatting. If you uninstall the chipset drivers first, and install the new mobo's chipset drivers as soon as you boot, you MIGHT succeed.

Dell did not provide you with an OS that can be installed on anything other than a Dell, so if you fail in dumping your hardware into a new box, then yeah, you need to buy the OS again.

 

[Zombeh]

Originally posted by: Slugbait

Originally posted by: Zombeh
why do you think its a landfill?

I personally would never even consider buying a Dell case with a Dell PSU and a Dell motherboard...unless it came with a CPU, memory, optical drives, keyboard, mouse and monitor. Printer with new cartridges would sweeten the deal, but not guarantee it.

i think you might be confused...i am taking all that stuff OUT of my current dell and putting it in a new case.



and as far as XP goes: i should uninstall my intel chipset drivers before the swap, then boot in my new rig with the new motherboards drivers first?

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
i think you might be confused...i am taking all that stuff OUT of my current dell and putting it in a new case.

That is incorrect: you specifically said case, mobo and PSU are being replaced. You included links. You are NOT taking all that stuff out of your current Dell. Those components will become landfill items.

I am not confused in the least.

and as far as XP goes: i should uninstall my intel chipset drivers before the swap, then boot in my new rig with the new motherboards drivers first?

Yes. And good luck. Even if it works, you may have severe stability problems.

 

[Zombeh]

my dell is all stock, those links i put are the items i want to purchase. i just dont see how putting my p4, x850xtpe, 1 gig of ram in a new case is a landfill.

Yes. And good luck. Even if it works, you may have severe stability problems.

would they re-activate my xp if i say my motherboard burnt out in my dell and im putting everything in a new dell case?

 

[Slugbait]

<heavy sigh>

Perhaps this is a good time to use the caps lock key.

Pull the processor out.
Question: What are you pulling it out of?
Answer: A landfill item (commonly referred to as a proprietary Dell motherboard)

That proprietary motherboard is connected to a proprietary power supply.
Question: Does that make the power supply a landfill item?
Answer: Yes. It can only be used with proprietary Dell motherboards.

That proprietary motherboard and proprietary power supply are mounted inside a proprietary computer case.
Question: Does this mean the case is also a landfill item?
Answer: Of course it does.

Question: Buh-buh-but why is all this perfectly-working hardware nothing more than landfill items?
Answer: <copy-n-paste> the possibility anyone will buy a gutted Dell box is slim to none.

Even if the box has a processor, RAM, optical drive and a hard drive with a copy of WinXP installed, it's a difficult sell because it's a Dell. Remove all those things, and you have only landfill items left...bringing that box back to life is far too expensive for both the resulting performance and value.

 

[Rike]

Originally posted by: Slugbait

Originally posted by: Rike
Also, don't forget about a new OS. In my experience, MS will not let you move your current WinXP license to what is basically a new rig.

Incorrect:

13. SOFTWARE TRANSFER. Internal. You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer.

Just so we are clear, your quote and link only apply to a retail box version of WinXP. If he has a Dell, he has a Dell specific OEM copy, which is no good on his new rig.

Also, switching mobo and cpu without a reinstall of XP is risky business. Not worth it, IMHO.

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: Rike
Just so we are clear, your quote and link only apply to a retail box version of WinXP. If he has a Dell, he has a Dell specific OEM copy, which is no good on his new rig.

My apologies, you are absolutely correct. If it's OEM, a new motherboard = new license.

 

[Zombeh]

Originally posted by: Slugbait
<heavy sigh>

Perhaps this is a good time to use the caps lock key.

Pull the processor out.
Question: What are you pulling it out of?
Answer: A landfill item (commonly referred to as a proprietary Dell motherboard)

That proprietary motherboard is connected to a proprietary power supply.
Question: Does that make the power supply a landfill item?
Answer: Yes. It can only be used with proprietary Dell motherboards.

That proprietary motherboard and proprietary power supply are mounted inside a proprietary computer case.
Question: Does this mean the case is also a landfill item?
Answer: Of course it does.

Question: Buh-buh-but why is all this perfectly-working hardware nothing more than landfill items?
Answer: <copy-n-paste> the possibility anyone will buy a gutted Dell box is slim to none.

Even if the box has a processor, RAM, optical drive and a hard drive with a copy of WinXP installed, it's a difficult sell because it's a Dell. Remove all those things, and you have only landfill items left...bringing that box back to life is far too expensive for both the resulting performance and value.

i'm also sighing.

i am not pulling the current proprietary dell motherboard out of the dell.

i am not pulling the current proprietary psu out of the dell

i am ONLY pulling the CPU, ram, hard-drive, and GFX out (these are all after-market items) and using them in my new rig. i am not selling anything.

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: Zombeh

i'm also sighing.

i am not pulling the current proprietary dell motherboard out of the dell.

<Caps lock on> NO DUH

i am not pulling the current proprietary psu out of the dell

<Caps lock on> NO DUH

i am ONLY pulling the CPU, ram, hard-drive, and GFX out (these are all after-market items.)

PERFECTLY UNDERSTOOD. I GOT IT. WE ALL GOT IT. WE GOT IT AT 12:28 PST. YOU ARE RAPING YOUR DELL. WE UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE EXTREME OBVIOUS.

Hope you enjoy your raped Dell box. You should get many happy years from it. For what, I haven't any idea...other than to toss it in a landfill. It doesn't matter any more anyway. Good day.

 

[Zombeh]

please do me a favor and delete all your posts in this thread, you are not helping me in the least bit.

 

[Slugbait]

I never delete my posts on request. Besides, it doesn't matter, cuz it's painfully obvious you didn't read them.

Go ahead. I think it's a great idea. Have fun.

 

[Zombeh]

then can you please edit the rudeness and sarcasm?

 

[Slugbait]

Originally posted by: Zombeh
then can you please edit the rudeness and sarcasm?

If I were to do that, the entertainment quotient would be below the bar for the majority of AnandTech forum members.