"Pussification of babies.." what?!

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Wreckem

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dude, you may be surprised if you are older and kidless

http://www.iihs.org/laws/childrestraint.aspx

you might need a lawyer to read the chart, but if your kid is too small, low weight or too short, in some states, then they might be in a car seat until middle school

If a kid is under 4'9" they need to be in a booster seat so they don't get seriously injured by the seat belt in the event of crash. Booster seat doesn't equal car seat.
 

Elbryn

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He punched me in the nuts with his sippy cup the other day too. Thus taking the throne as man of the house. :(

the best is when they come a running towards you full tilt when you are not looking and they're just the right height to headbutt you in the nuts. then look at you funny as if you got in their way then tell you "Papa! Timeout!" as you gasp for air.
 

rudder

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pussification is giving every child a participation trophy for playing ball and never keeping score. Using a car seat is not pussyfication. Lot more cars on the road than back when paw was driving his kids around.... and cars are not built like tanks anymore.
 

Red Storm

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Not that I agree with the idea of seat belts not being needed, but back in the "good ole' days" people also drove slower, there were way fewer idiots on the roads, and there were less things to distract you (and everyone else) while driving.
 
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Mark R

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As a new dad I'm hearing a lot of my older relatives and in laws (especially from the south/Mid-west) say things like "carseats?! in my day, we just strapped a baby onto the armrest!" or other flippant views of current medical knowledge and parenting... My reply is usually "in your day, a lot more babies died." I know some of it's silly but, if a certain practice is leading to infants getting harmed en masse, what's so wrong about our society learning from our mistakes? What I find interesting is the anger attached to the statements about how much better things were back then, but weren't we just collectively ignorant?

There are a lot of advancements that we have made, where "pussification" is actually progress and improved safety. Seat belts are the classic example. Air bags are another good example (but substantially less effective, and a lot more expensive than seat belts).

Interestingly, however, car seats are not one of them. There is not a shred of evidence that they have any safety benefit whatsoever. However, they seem to offer "obvious" safety, and they have a powerful industry lobby behind them. If I had to pick an example of almost willfully fraudulent misrepresentation of science to promote "safety", this would be the example I would choose.
 
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zinfamous

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Wanna crap somewhere? Go for it. Anywhere.
Want something to drink that won't give you dysentery? Good luck with that!

That's the one that always got poor Jimmy. :(

dysentery.jpg
 

PingSpike

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it's cyclical. when we're old we'll say the same things to the new generation about our generation.

you need more confidence in your parenting. i'm sure you know the right thing to do, you just have to not let the naysayers get to you. one time my father had just come in from working in the garage and had gasoline all over his hands and clothes and wanted to hold our newborn and we asked him to wash up first. he scoffed at us saying that the baby needed to be exposed to germs but we weren't having any of it.

LOL, what? I don't think gasoline contains an appreciable amount of germs, on account of its poisonous qualities. Its fumes do contain carcinogens and I don't think there has been any study suggesting there are health benefits from infants consuming trace amounts of gasoline.
 

JulesMaximus

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There are a lot of advancements that we have made, where "pussification" is actually progress and improved safety. Seat belts are the classic example. Air bags are another good example (but substantially less effective, and a lot more expensive than seat belts).

Interestingly, however, car seats are not one of them. There is not a shred of evidence that they have any safety benefit whatsoever. However, they seem to offer "obvious" safety, and they have a powerful industry lobby behind them. If I had to pick an example of almost willfully fraudulent misrepresentation of science to promote "safety", this would be the example I would choose.

Show me one shred of evidence that backs up that ridiculous claim you just made.
 

blackdogdeek

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LOL, what? I don't think gasoline contains an appreciable amount of germs, on account of its poisonous qualities. Its fumes do contain carcinogens and I don't think there has been any study suggesting there are health benefits from infants consuming trace amounts of gasoline.

exactly! it was at that point that i concluded my mother must have been the main care-giver during our childhood.
 

PingSpike

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My gf's mother said something similar. She isn't against carseats but she has this idiotic logic in her mind that if they made it back then without them..then it must not be that big of a deal.

Survivor bias. If she didn't make it back then she'd be rotting in a small casket somewhere and wouldn't be able to say this. The fact is it was kind of a big deal its just that the people it was a big deal for are long dead and not around to remind us of this fact.
 

PingSpike

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Back then you could drive a car into a brick wall and someone in the back seat without a seatbelt wouldn't even have a scratch. And the wall would have more damage to it than the car! :eek:

Lot more cars on the road than back when paw was driving his kids around.... and cars are not built like tanks anymore.

These aren't stories from the Good Old Days. These are stories from the Never Were days. Cars were absolutely not safer back then.
 

Nintendesert

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Damn people are raising a bunch of pussy babies. I bet they even feed and burp them regularly.