Pushy people on airplanes

[Exterous]

Protip: If an international flight lands 2.5 hours late you are probably not the only person who has a tight connection. So trying to push in front of people who also have a tight connection will not be appreciated. When our flight landed my wife got up into the aisle. A guy came from 5 rows back comes rushing up and tried to slide past her by using his arm to push her to the side. She responded like a pro. Slung her large-ish travel purse over her shoulder to hit him in the arm and block his path. He then stood right next to her so no one (like her husband) could get into the aisle. As he was taking a look backwards we shared a quick look and she took a step up so I could get into the aisle. This was all while no one was even getting off the plane yet.

Now annoyed guy taps me on the shoulder: "You need to move. I have a tight connection."
Me: "The flight landed two and a half hours late, pal. I'm guessing most people have a tight connection."

At least I get to add Newark to the airports I have jogged through. But we did manage to get through customs and security to make it to our gate at the scheduled boarding time.

Related: I get that most people just have time to kill in the airport, waiting around for a flight. But I think most people are aware that sometimes Things Happen and people need to walk fast/jog/run to catch their flight. So could we maybe make it easy for them to do that by not spreading out to 5 abreast with .75 of a person spacing between us? Or maybe don't take up the whole jetbridge with just you and your suitcase? Or maybe stand on the side of the moving walkway that says Stand and not block the side that says Walk?

 

[Ns1]

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n/m, I gotta stop skimming posts.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Protip: If an international flight lands 2.5 hours late you are probably not the only person who has a tight connection. So trying to push in front of people who also have a tight connection will not be appreciated. When our flight landed my wife got up into the aisle. A guy came from 5 rows back comes rushing up and tried to slide past her by using his arm to push her to the side. She responded like a pro. Slung her large-ish travel purse over her shoulder to hit him in the arm and block his path. He then stood right next to her so no one (like her husband) could get into the aisle. As he was taking a look backwards we shared a quick look and she took a step up so I could get into the aisle. This was all while no one was even getting off the plane yet.

Now annoyed guy taps me on the shoulder: "You need to move. I have a tight connection."
Me: "The flight landed two and a half hours late, pal. I'm guessing most people have a tight connection."

At least I get to add Newark to the airports I have jogged through. But we did manage to get through customs and security to make it to our gate at the scheduled boarding time.

Related: I get that most people just have time to kill in the airport, waiting around for a flight. But I think most people are aware that sometimes Things Happen and people need to walk fast/jog/run to catch their flight. So could we maybe make it easy for them to do that by not spreading out to 5 abreast with .75 of a person spacing between us? Or maybe don't take up the whole jetbridge with just you and your suitcase? Or maybe stand on the side of the moving walkway that says Stand and not block the side that says Walk?

Fuck yeah. Next time tell her to aim for the nuts and keep putting the purse back and forth until it hits.

I fucking despise morons like that. "I'M THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE! No one else could possibly have to make a flight connection - everyone else here is direct!"

EDIT: I'm not your pal, buddy.

 

[Platypus]

Air travel, especially international travel, shows you a uniquely hellish vision of human behavior

 

[Kaido]

Air travel, especially international travel, shows you a uniquely hellish vision of human behavior

I blame greedy airplane companies. They make the whole process stressful, they pack you in little tiny seats, and people already have anxiety about flying, and then they stick you in crowds for hours & hours, whether it's the TSA line, or the waiting seats, or in the airplane. For a lot of people, it's a lot to contend with. I'm surprised we don't have more people flip out when flying, tbh!

 

[ElFenix]

how about the people in boarding group 6 who crowd the gate when the plane starts to board? sit down chief, you're not going anywhere soon.

 

[Midwayman]

how about the people in boarding group 6 who crowd the gate when the plane starts to board? sit down chief, you're not going anywhere soon.

That's the airline's own fault with their baggage policies. People weren't nearly as aggressive when they had free checked bags. Honestly the first checked bag should always be free and roll aboards should be charged extra.I'd chill in my seat if it wasn't like the hunger games fighting for bin space.

 

[Exterous]

how about the people in boarding group 6 who crowd the gate when the plane starts to board? sit down chief, you're not going anywhere soon.

Some airlines compound the gate lice issue. Given DTW is a Delta fortress hub I fly them a fair bit and my 'Zone 1 Boarding' is actually zone 4 (Pre-boards, Premium zone, Sky Priority being 1-3). Only ~13% of AA passengers fly more than once a year and I can't imagine Delta would be that far off so I try and cut them some slack with counter-intuitive boarding groups

That's the airline's own fault with their baggage policies. People weren't nearly as aggressive when they had free checked bags. Honestly the first checked bag should always be free and roll aboards should be charged extra.I'd chill in my seat if it wasn't like the hunger games fighting for bin space.

Until airlines stop losing\abusing\stealing from luggage I wouldn't support paying for carry-ons. It would help if Americans learned how to pack less. Other countries seem to manage just fine with suitcases half the size of our bloated, overstuffed luggage that we spend so much time trying to stove in overhead bins

 

[killster1]

Protip: If an international flight lands 2.5 hours late you are probably not the only person who has a tight connection. So trying to push in front of people who also have a tight connection will not be appreciated. When our flight landed my wife got up into the aisle. A guy came from 5 rows back comes rushing up and tried to slide past her by using his arm to push her to the side. She responded like a pro. Slung her large-ish travel purse over her shoulder to hit him in the arm and block his path. He then stood right next to her so no one (like her husband) could get into the aisle. As he was taking a look backwards we shared a quick look and she took a step up so I could get into the aisle. This was all while no one was even getting off the plane yet.

Now annoyed guy taps me on the shoulder: "You need to move. I have a tight connection."
Me: "The flight landed two and a half hours late, pal. I'm guessing most people have a tight connection."

At least I get to add Newark to the airports I have jogged through. But we did manage to get through customs and security to make it to our gate at the scheduled boarding time.

Related: I get that most people just have time to kill in the airport, waiting around for a flight. But I think most people are aware that sometimes Things Happen and people need to walk fast/jog/run to catch their flight. So could we maybe make it easy for them to do that by not spreading out to 5 abreast with .75 of a person spacing between us? Or maybe don't take up the whole jetbridge with just you and your suitcase? Or maybe stand on the side of the moving walkway that says Stand and not block the side that says Walk?

wow sounds like her fault. why didnt she move over? she is so important that no one else gets to go forward if she is not ready to go forward? i understand the push to the front of the plane and i enjoy blocking the people behind me and letting everyone else infront of me get out first There is two sides tho.. maybe lots of room to go forward and your wife is not ready but other passenger is? so why not let him by did it hurt you? Because some are in more rush than others you decide to block him and act tough with a "PAL talk" hahahha SO funny on both sides what ever, nothing to worry about

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Some airlines compound the gate lice issue. Given DTW is a Delta fortress hub I fly them a fair bit and my 'Zone 1 Boarding' is actually zone 4 (Pre-boards, Premium zone, Sky Priority being 1-3). Only ~13% of AA passengers fly more than once a year and I can't imagine Delta would be that far off so I try and cut them some slack with counter-intuitive boarding groups



Until airlines stop losing\abusing\stealing from luggage I wouldn't support paying for carry-ons. It would help if Americans learned how to pack less. Other countries seem to manage just fine with suitcases half the size of our bloated, overstuffed luggage that we spend so much time trying to stove in overhead bins

I'm a bit conflicted as far as luggage.

Part of me wants to say "There is space below the plane SPECIFICALLY for cargo. Why are they incentivizing to NOT use this?" The other part of me agrees that airline employees are incompotent and stupid, and I would rather just hold my bags all the way anyways. Plus, waiting for them to deliver the cargo (and hoping it made the way there) to baggage claim is a bit of a pain in of itself. I will admit though, I much prefer to check baggage when I go on a family trip and we have 9999 bags with a baby carrier, stoller, and a baby doohookie etc...

All I can say - it definitely helps to be in the consulting world. Airlines practically give me a hypothetical blowjob and give me free status in hopes that I use their airline for my weekly travel to clients. Suckers. I never pay bags because of the free status regardless of where I go

 

[GagHalfrunt]

At least I get to add Newark to the airports I have jogged through.

On the bright side, Newark is the #1 airport in the world to have a tight connection and jog through because the faster you run the less time you spend there.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

On the bright side, Newark is the #1 airport in the world to have a tight connection and jog through because the faster you run the less time you spend there.

I would just be glad it was Newark and not LaGuardia. Hands down the shittiest airport I've ever been to - and I've been to a ton.

 

[mrblotto]

Since when did you become a mod?
drinking/ *hiccup* /drinking

 

[Exterous]

wow sounds like her fault. why didnt she move over? she is so important that no one else gets to go forward if she is not ready to go forward? i understand the push to the front of the plane and i enjoy blocking the people behind me and letting everyone else infront of me get out first There is two sides tho.. maybe lots of room to go forward and your wife is not ready but other passenger is? so why not let him by did it hurt you? Because some are in more rush than others you decide to block him and act tough with a "PAL talk" hahahha SO funny on both sides what ever, nothing to worry about

Why do you assume she wasn't ready to move forward? She would have if it weren't for the person directly in front of her, or the person in front of them or any of the people from the 20 or so rows in front of us. As the case with any flight ever as soon as the seatbelt sign comes off the aisle fills with people who then stand there and wait for the door to open and the cattle to move out.

I'm a bit conflicted as far as luggage.

Part of me wants to say "There is space below the plane SPECIFICALLY for cargo. Why are they incentivizing to NOT use this?" The other part of me agrees that airline employees are incompotent and stupid, and I would rather just hold my bags all the way anyways. Plus, waiting for them to deliver the cargo (and hoping it made the way there) to baggage claim is a bit of a pain in of itself. I will admit though, I much prefer to check baggage when I go on a family trip and we have 9999 bags with a baby carrier, stoller, and a baby doohookie etc...

Oh I'm fine if other people check luggage. More overhead space for me and less competition for where ever I'm going to next. I'll be clearing customs\getting on the hotel shuttle or picking out a nicer rental car upgrade while you wait for the luggage buzzer to sound

 

[Ns1]

I'll be clearing customs\getting on the hotel shuttle or picking out a nicer rental car upgrade while you wait for the luggage buzzer to sound

that's why you fly Emirates b. class - so you can get your luggage first and walk out to the S550 waiting for you.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I would just be glad it was Newark and not LaGuardia. Hands down the shittiest airport I've ever been to - and I've been to a ton.

I've flown in an out of LaGuardia, Newark and JFK multiple times each and they're about equally shitty. My standard M.O. is to use one, have a terrible experience, vow to never go back there and move on to the next one. Have another shitty experience, vow to never return there and move on to the third one. Have a shitty experience there and by then the memory of the original shitty visit to airport #1 has faded and it seems less shitty than the latest disaster at airport #3 and I go back to #1. Lather, rinse, repeat.

To be honest, if forced to use one and only one I'd use LaGuardia. It's the most convenient one to get to, so I'm slightly less frustrated by travel when I start dealing with the inevitable airport frustrations.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I've flown in an out of LaGuardia, Newark and JFK multiple times each and they're about equally shitty. My standard M.O. is to use one, have a terrible experience, vow to never go back there and move on to the next one. Have another shitty experience, vow to never return there and move on to the third one. Have a shitty experience there and by then the memory of the original shitty visit to airport #1 has faded and it seems less shitty than the latest disaster at airport #3 and I go back to #1. Lather, rinse, repeat.

To be honest, if forced to use one and only one I'd use LaGuardia. It's the most convenient one to get to, so I'm slightly less frustrated by travel when I start dealing with the inevitable airport frustrations.

My biggest problem with LaGuardia was the lack of bars to vent my frustration with how shitty of an airport it is

There was literally none in my terminal. Bastards.

 

[Exterous]

Since when did you become a mod?
drinking/ *hiccup* /drinking

Dude since like forever ago. You really should drink less. Or more.

that's why you fly Emirates b. class - so you can get your luggage first and walk out to the S550 waiting for you.

Well when they have $350 RT tickets to Europe or award availability over school holidays I will

I've flown in an out of LaGuardia, Newark and JFK multiple times each and they're about equally shitty.

Yeah they all have their shitty sides which is often related to particular terminals. Someone who flies out of terminal 4 or 5 at JFK would have a very different experience than terminal 1, 2 or 7

 

[ponyo]

That's the airline's own fault with their baggage policies. People weren't nearly as aggressive when they had free checked bags. Honestly the first checked bag should always be free and roll aboards should be charged extra.I'd chill in my seat if it wasn't like the hunger games fighting for bin space.

International is normally 2 free checked bags even for economy unless you're flying to the Caribbean or Mexico. I still see the same behavior on these international routes.

You didn't miss much running through Newark. Probably near the top for the worst airport I've been to.

I almost missed my flight out of Budapest couple weeks back and had to run to the gate and barely made on board as they were about to close the door. I went through security and then went to chill at the airport lounge til boarding time. I didn't realize I still had to go through customs passport check to exit Hungary. It was nerve wrecking waiting in that long and slow passport check line hearing all aboard call and still knowing I was stuck in the passport line unable to get through.

 

[SKORPI0]

Should have let the guy pass through, like you mentioned everyone has a tight connection specially with a late incoming flight.
Regardless if he (an ass) shoved your wife aside. Try to be courteous and let the ass pass. What airline was this?

 

[ImpulsE69]

Protip: If an international flight lands 2.5 hours late you are probably not the only person who has a tight connection. So trying to push in front of people who also have a tight connection will not be appreciated. When our flight landed my wife got up into the aisle. A guy came from 5 rows back comes rushing up and tried to slide past her by using his arm to push her to the side. She responded like a pro. Slung her large-ish travel purse over her shoulder to hit him in the arm and block his path. He then stood right next to her so no one (like her husband) could get into the aisle. As he was taking a look backwards we shared a quick look and she took a step up so I could get into the aisle. This was all while no one was even getting off the plane yet.

Now annoyed guy taps me on the shoulder: "You need to move. I have a tight connection."
Me: "The flight landed two and a half hours late, pal. I'm guessing most people have a tight connection."

People are really self absorbed asshats. My wife likes to say the majority of the world is good. I do not think so. I think the majority of the world 'plays' nice until things get tough, then the real person comes out. The internet/social media has made it worse. The gems are few and far between.

 

[Midwayman]

International is normally 2 free checked bags even for economy unless you're flying to the Caribbean or Mexico. I still see the same behavior on these international routes.

I fly international a fair amount and while it does happen, I do see a lot less people dragging roll aboards on. Probably something to do with required free checked bags, but also a lot more people traveling international simply can't fit into a rollaboard. If you ever fly a non US carrier international a lot of them have severe size restrictions, especially in cattle class.

 

[Exterous]

If you ever fly a non US carrier international a lot of them have severe size restrictions, especially in cattle class.

A lot of them? Not sure about that. 22x14x9 is a pretty standard size restriction used by AA, Delta, and United.

The following major international carriers allow larger: British Airways, Aer Lingus, EasyJet, Iberia, ANA, Cathay, China, Japan,
These following international carriers are basically the same: Lufthansa, Ryan Air, Swiss, Norwegian, Turkish, Air China, China Eastern, Emirates, Air NZ, Qantas, Jetstar, Singapore, Air Canada

Having flown a little over half that international list my 21.8x14x9 suitcase has fit just fine. Now weight restrictions on the other hand could be problematic but that varies quite a bit more (and can vary by region served on the same airline).

 

[Midwayman]

A lot of them? Not sure about that. 22x14x9 is a pretty standard size restriction used by AA, Delta, and United.

The following major international carriers allow larger: British Airways, Aer Lingus, EasyJet, Iberia, ANA, Cathay, China, Japan,
These following international carriers are basically the same: Lufthansa, Ryan Air, Swiss, Norwegian, Turkish, Air China, China Eastern, Emirates, Air NZ, Qantas, Jetstar, Singapore, Air Canada

Having flown a little over half that international list my 21.8x14x9 suitcase has fit just fine. Now weight restrictions on the other hand could be problematic but that varies quite a bit more (and can vary by region served on the same airline).

Maybe the difference is they actually enforce them? I'd say the majority of rollers in the US won't fit the the 'official' size boxes near check-in. In case the weight limit is pretty severe. My 1/4 full roller was a problem in basic economy on Lufthansa when I flew to peru for example.

 

[zinfamous]

Last week, we landed on time for our connecting flight in Brussels, from Riga, to fly back to the US. Problem is, the layover was about 1.2 hours, and we had to go through passport control and, apparently, security check before boarding. We exited the plane just as ours was boarding (it started boarding an hour prior to take-off).

other problem with airports like Brussels and Frankfurt (the flight in), is that you exit (or board) the plane off the gate and out on the tarmac, pack onto a tram that then drives you to the opposite side of the airport, where you then have to huff all the way back to the part of the airport where you de-planed to catch your connecting flight.....literally the gate adjacent to the plane that you exited.

In Brussels we got through passport control after about 30-40 minutes, with 15 minutes before takeoff, and had to huff it though the entire airport...meaning a largeish shopping mall that snakes you through (just like a fricking IKEA store) about a dozen Duty Free stores before reaching any terminal. We pushed through some massive hangup of about 87 people clumped up next to our gate, as there was a "through flight" lane next to it, and ran to our gate. ...the lady there said that we need a security sticker, from that desk that we just ran by, before we could board. Our flight was leaving in 5 minutes. Ran up to the desk, told them we are on the Washington flight, and the security lady put a sticker on our passport after we promised that we have nothing dangerous.