Purdue or Penn State for Engineering

TecHNooB

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I've asked ATOT this question before and it was pretty even judging from the poll. But a lot of people close to my mom are saying that I should definitely go to Purdue for engineering. The school is well known in engineering after all. And according to this guy my mom knows, who attended the #1 college in Taiwan, the staff at Purdue > Penn State. He's been to both schools. He graduated from Purdue over two decades ago so things might have changed.

The message I got from my last post about this was to visit both schools and then decide. Well, that's what I did. Penn State looks AMAZING. The campus is extremely clean and literally spotless. There's a lot of school pride at Penn State, which probably explains why the place is so clean. Everything is vibrant and colorful. The stores surrounding Penn State have the same charm as those you would find in Boston. And people were up and about. I was kind of hoping Purdue would be the same way but a tad bit smaller. This was not the case.

The road leading to the school was a long winding one hudled between a large yellowing lake and a squat housing complexes. This was okay, because I didn't mind a more remote location. Entering West Lafeyette, I noticed cracks developing on the road we were on. The only reason I had noticed this was because the roadways at Penn State looked newly paved. This was a minor observation that I could forget. Getting closer to the school, I noticed the "old"-feel had not gone away. I could describe the scenery in two words. Yellow and brown. The place felt like it was old. And the dominant colors were either yellow or brown.. and maybe a touch red. There weren't too many stores and the ones that were there did not stand out. There was an odd pizza place here and there and I remember seeing a McDonalds somewhere. Being a future engineering student, I was sad to see that there was one lone computer hardware store that was located in the basement floor of some building(you had to walk down a set of stairs to reach it). To top it off, the door was covered in graffiti. This was the complete opposite of what I had saw at Penn State.

The school itself wasn't a standout either. It was surrounded by a parking garage and other taller buildings. Every building that belonged to Purdue was brown. Inside, the walls were yellow. When you walked in, you had to choose between going up a flight of stairs or going down one. But the hallways all looked the same. Yellow and musky with poor lighting and ceiling lined with pipes that you could touch if you reached upwards. The noise made by the pipes were extremely audible. I knew Purdue's team was called the Boilermakers, but the amount of noise coming from pipes was unacceptable. While I was walking around, I peeked into one of the class rooms. Inside, it was dark. I forget if there were windows or not; there might have been. To my surprise, there were actually students in there. They all sat in front of these bulky old CRTs. CRTs? All I saw at Penn State were LCDs. I've been rambling for a bit, so I'm just going to sum up the rest real quick. The pathways are covered in paper advertising school events. Certain areas smelled like sewage. And the dorms consisted of 4 room complexes that sat next to each other in a grid. The distance between the school and the dorms was far enough; most kids biked judging from numerous bike racks. Engineering was actually getting a new building, but it was still under construction--to be completed 2007 or so. The library sported the school colors of yellow and brown. There was a wall of famous alumni. Again, very obscure and no standouts. All I remember was one guy becoming an astronaut. No big corporate execs and no groundbreaking discoveries on that wall, to my knowledge. And what was up with the lighting? Maybe it's just me, but I absolutely hate lights that make a room look yellow. It puts me to sleep. I'm sure everyone prefers white lighting. I was never a star student who excels at studying for long periods of time, and the atmosphere at Purdue wasn't making it any better. I settled for Penn State because it was reasonably high ranked (#19 in engineering) and the atmosphere was nice. Then the above happens (See Paragraph 1). Now I'm really not sure. I can't judge the teachers at all, but from what everyone's been saying, Purdue is where I should be looking to go. But I really hate the environment. What should I do? I'd like to get opinions from actual engineers plz.

Cliffs:
-Deciding between Purdue and Penn State
-People my parents know say go to Purdue including some guy who went to #1 Taiwan college
-Penn State's campus rocks
-Purdue is very old, yellowing, full of pipes, and a horrible environment for studying.
-Penn State's campus rocks
-Purdue has a better staff(?)
-Engineers are saying Purdue is better
-Better or not, I don't think I can have a clear head in a place like Purdue (I'll suck it up if I have to tho)
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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purdue

edit: Read minendo's post, I would take a second look at Purdue and make sure you see the buildings you'll be in
 

minendo

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What building were you in at Purdue? Every lab I ever was in while there had switched to 17" LCDs about 1 year before I graduated. It sounds like you were in one of the older buildings and are basing your decision off of that.

It is your choice so why the need to post. By the sounds of it you already made up your mind.

On another note, wait until you see how bad it is traffic and noise wise during a Penn State football game.
 

akenbennu

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I have a degree in engineering, but didn't look at either of those two schools, so I can't really help you there. However, I can say from personal experience that the college you go to isn't as much a factor is how well you do as the amount of effort you put into college. You're going to have to pick the school where you feel the most comfortable. Doesn't do you any good to go to the best engineering school in the country if you don't feel comfortable there and can't adequetely get your work done.

(Given that, I'd go with Penn if you think the engineering program is sufficient for your needs)
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: akenbennu
I have a degree in engineering, but didn't look at either of those two schools, so I can't really help you there. However, I can say from personal experience that the college you go to isn't as much a factor is how well you do as the amount of effort you put into college. You're going to have to pick the school where you feel the most comfortable. Doesn't do you any good to go to the best engineering school in the country if you don't feel comfortable there and can't adequetely get your work done.

(Given that, I'd go with Penn if you think the engineering program is sufficient for your needs)

Ding ding! The more you put in, the more you will get out. Especially if you choose to do research you will learn a lot and get so much out of it (although professors aren't as keen on first year researchers because mainly because the retention rate is lower). You can have a student go to a "2nd rate" engineering college, and learn much more and be more successful than the student who goes to a first rate engineering college and expects the college to determine their enviornment.

I honestly do'nt know much about east coast colleges (West Coast boy here :))...but go where you feel comfortable. The material you will learn will probably be the same (accredation means you have to meet standards) and the main different is the faculty and what they research. The only problem is 95% of students don't approach the faculty about that stuff so you get the same education anywhere. I say go to the college that you like better (regardless of name...if you are good they won't care WHERE you went) beceause that is the college you will preform better at.

Though I know what you mean about horrible classes :D There is one building on my campus that they are probably going to tear down soon because it is so old and leaks....and clashes with all the other nicer buildings ;)

But at the same time, learning with a rusted pipe that might be leaking 8 feet above you can be an intersting experience:)

cliffs:
1) wherever you feel better...if you are good you will get hired and go to great grad schools regardless of your education
2) Involve yourself on campus...else there is nothing different among the campsues
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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It doesn't matter somewhat (esp. for BS) as long as you're roughly within the Top 50 or so.
Way back when, I had a choice between UIUC, Purdue (WL), UW-Madison and Iowa State. Chose ISU for the lower cost of living and fees; ended up alright :) Lots of good profs here in my areas (EE - VLSI, RF/microwave, magnetics) - Geiger, Weber, Dalal, Jiles, etc.
 

KillerCharlie

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Originally posted by: WhoBeDaPlaya
It doesn't matter somewhat (esp. for BS) as long as you're roughly within the Top 50 or so.
Way back when, I had a choice between UIUC, Purdue (WL), UW-Madison and Iowa State. Chose ISU for the lower cost of living and fees; ended up alright :) Lots of good profs here in my areas (EE - VLSI, RF/microwave, magnetics) - Geiger, Weber, Dalal, Jiles, etc.

Yup... Purdue and Penn State are excellent choices at the BS level. Pick which one you feel more comfortable with. Even at the MS level (if you are going to industry and aren't doing a thesis), the school is only marginally important as long as it's at least within the top 50.
 

rocadelpunk

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well, at least you're not considering michigan.

As others have said, engineering is pretty much dependent on what you put into it...if you actually make it to 3rd-4th year...you'll be in the library constantly, so make sure they have a nice library : )
 

Cattlegod

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I don't know and have never met any engineers from Penn State. I have however, met many from Purdue in the real world.
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: minendo
What building were you in at Purdue? Every lab I ever was in while there had switched to 17" LCDs about 1 year before I graduated. It sounds like you were in one of the older buildings and are basing your decision off of that.

It is your choice so why the need to post. By the sounds of it you already made up your mind.

On another note, wait until you see how bad it is traffic and noise wise during a Penn State football game.

There are quite a few labs with 19" LCDs now. There are a few CRT's however, still on the older computers, mostly old unix systems.

I am interested as to what building you were in too.

FYI: Finishing Junior year in EE
 

Midlander

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For most engineering degrees, I'd choose Purdue. Penn State is better in a couple of them.

Purdue is also better known across the nation for its engineering school. That could be a tie-breaker in getting a job someday.
 

TecHNooB

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Yea, I was told I was in the wrong place.. but I didn't see anywhere else to go.. and we drove there so I was beat up and really tired. And yes, I know effort is more important than the actual college I end up in but a nicer atmosphere really helps. And I was hoping to hear from some of you who went to purdue ;)
 

PurdueRy

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Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Yea, I was told I was in the wrong place.. but I didn't see anywhere else to go.. and we drove there so I was beat up and really tired. And yes, I know effort is more important than the actual college I end up in but a nicer atmosphere really helps. And I was hoping to hear from some of you who went to purdue ;)

If you have any questions about campus PM me.
 

TecHNooB

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Originally posted by: PurdueRy
Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Yea, I was told I was in the wrong place.. but I didn't see anywhere else to go.. and we drove there so I was beat up and really tired. And yes, I know effort is more important than the actual college I end up in but a nicer atmosphere really helps. And I was hoping to hear from some of you who went to purdue ;)

If you have any questions about campus PM me.

I'll definitely take you up on that... right after I get my promotion in BF2 and unlock the L96A1 hoho!
 

dr150

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Poodoo fo' sho! They have a nationally respected engineering program.
 

EagleKeeper

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Coming from LTI/MIT/WPI, my recommendation is Purdue
 

minendo

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Feel free to PM me as well about campus, programs, etc. Graduated from Purdue in 04.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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Reiterate my vote for ISU. :)
Highly regarded MatE/S, EE and AeroE programs. Don't know about the rest.