Purchasing a 380X or waiting for Polaris

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escrow4

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So Doom is coming, and it is one of the games that I actually want to play this year. Now I know that you should wait for reviews and you shouldn't buy hardware for unreleased games and all that but right now I have a poky GT 730 (go on giggle I know you want to) after I sold my meh 780 Ti.

I'm only interested in High, or a mix of medium/high at 1200p, nothing more over 40FPS. I originally was going for a 950 but that is a rather pansy GPU, and I don't want to buy yet another Nvidia card so I'm looking at a 380X 4GB, going local for a touch over $300.

So for my very basic requirements should I really wait? I do want to play Day 1.
 
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tential

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escrow4 said:
So Doom is coming, and it is one of the games that I actually want to play this year. Now I know that you should wait for reviews and you shouldn't buy hardware for unreleased games and all that but right now I have a poky GT 730 (go on giggle I know you want to) after I sold my meh 780 Ti.

I'm only interested in High, or a mix of medium/high at 1200p, nothing more over 40FPS. I originally was going for a 950 but that is a rather pansy GPU, and I don't want to buy yet another Nvidia card so I'm looking at a 380X 4GB, going local for a touch over $300.

So for my very basic requirements should I really wait? I do want to play Day 1.
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When Polaris is clearly coming in at 300 or under for far better performance as well as perf/watt well just basically everything.... Obviously wait the 2 weeks to find out about Polaris.

Tonga sucks.
 
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escrow4

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tential said:
When Polaris is clearly coming in at 300 or under for far better performance as well as perf/watt well just basically everything.... Obviously wait the 2 weeks to find out about Polaris.

Tonga sucks.
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$400 here most like. And sucks how?
 
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If you can't wait then instead of 380X 4gb get the cheaper 380 4gb.380X is just an overclocked 380 anyway.Just 10% faster.
Alternatively gtx970's have come down in price so if you can get one for the same price as a 380X then get that instead.
 
AtenRa

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mohit9206 said:
If you can't wait then instead of 380X 4gb get the cheaper 380 4gb.380X is just an overclocked 380 anyway.Just 10% faster.
Alternatively gtx970's have come down in price so if you can get one for the same price as a 380X then get that instead.
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380X is not an overclocked 380, it has more cores.

for the OP, if you cannot wait get a used 290.
 
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Flapdrol1337

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If you don't mind used you can probably get a good deal on a 290, with the upcoming pascal launch a lot of people are selling, although most are 970's.
 
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escrow4 said:
I'm only interested in High, or a mix of medium/high at 1200p, nothing more over 40FPS. I originally was going for a 950 but that is a rather pansy GPU, and I don't want to buy yet another Nvidia card so I'm looking at a 380X 4GB, going local for a touch over $300.
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Doom will feel much better at 60 fps but if you are ok with 40 fps, a used after-market 7970 or R9 280X is more than enough.

DOOM_1920.jpg


I wouldn't buy a 380X as I bet you can find a used after-market 290/390/290X for barely more $. Worth it unless you won't play any games after Doom. Try to find a Sapphire R9 290 as they are the quietest.

http://www.computerbase.de/2014-05/amd-radeon-r9-290-290x-roundup-test/3/

For used 280X, Sapphire Toxic was good.

Kepler isn't looking good in the Beta. 290X beats 780Ti by 20% at higher resolutions.

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escrow4

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RussianSensation said:
Ok, can you please list the prices of:

380 4GB
380X
390
970
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In order:

- $315 - Sapphire Nitro
- $358 - Asus Strix 380X - looking at this one.
- $485 - Sapphire Nitro
- $479 - Windforce OC

Polaris will be the same if not more (likely more). I'm looking at the 380X, it seems to be a modern 7970 equivalent more or less. Seeing as AMD drivers mature as opposed to strangling older products I doubt waiting would make much difference. At least pricewise.
 
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escrow4 said:
In order:

- $315 - Sapphire Nitro
- $358 - Asus Strix 380X - looking at this one.
- $485 - Sapphire Nitro
- $479 - Windforce OC

Polaris will be the same if not more (likely more). I'm looking at the 380X, it seems to be a modern 7970 equivalent more or less. Seeing as AMD drivers mature as opposed to strangling older products I doubt waiting would make much difference. At least pricewise.
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RTG has stressed over and over that they are targeting excellent new level of perf/$. Don't let the bad deals represented by 1080/1070 fool you, Finfet GPUs should be a radically better value proposition.
 
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To the OP, how long do you want to wait ? because latest rumor says Polaris is delayed

http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1230#post_25149678
Polaris 10 just got pushed back to October.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1240#post_25149690
What I can tell you, and this is only part of the reason, is that they need the time to get their GPU up to speed. It's failing validation above about 850 MHz.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1290#post_25151235
I've provided plenty of references for my credibility. I stand by AMD releasing Polaris in October.
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1300#post_25151290
As for taking a ban if I'm wrong, so far I've been correct on GTX Titan performance, GTX Titan pricing, Fury X frequencies on stock voltage, lack of Fury X scaling with voltage, BIOS updates to block BCLK overclocking on non-K series processors, Pascal TDP, GTX 1080 memory frequency, GTX 1080 GPU frequency (OK I have been vague on that but I did say you'd see CPU-like frequencies on LN2), GTX 1080 2-way SLI performance vs GTX 980 TI 4-way SLI performance (watch HWBOT the day the embargo lifts), as well as many other things which were on my now defunct website such as Bulldozer performance not being the INTEL destroyer the world believed it would be, etc. You tell me.
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oh one last thing, don't shoot the messenger :biggrin:
 
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Arachnotronic

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xpea said:
To the OP, how long do you want to wait ? because latest rumor says Polaris is delayed

http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1230#post_25149678


http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1240#post_25149690


http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1290#post_25151235


http://www.overclock.net/t/1599305/vc-first-gtx-1080-benchmarks/1300#post_25151290


oh one last thing, don't shoot the messenger :biggrin:
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I'll dig into this posters history to see if he's as credible as he wants us to believe. If true, that sucks.
 
Arachnotronic

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swilli89 said:
RTG has stressed over and over that they are targeting excellent new level of perf/$. Don't let the bad deals represented by 1080/1070 fool you, Finfet GPUs should be a radically better value proposition.
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Why do you keep crapping all over the 1070/1080 in just about every thread? It's getting old :(
 
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raghu78

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xpea said:
To the OP, how long do you want to wait ? because latest rumor says Polaris is delayed
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You should know within this quarter if Polaris 10/11 is delayed. AMD had talked about a mid-2016 launch. So if they have no launch news in Q2 then yeah its delayed. But I would rather wait it out than believe something just posted on the internet forums.
 
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AtenRa

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escrow4 said:
In order:

- $315 - Sapphire Nitro
- $358 - Asus Strix 380X - looking at this one.
- $485 - Sapphire Nitro
- $479 - Windforce OC

Polaris will be the same if not more (likely more). I'm looking at the 380X, it seems to be a modern 7970 equivalent more or less. Seeing as AMD drivers mature as opposed to strangling older products I doubt waiting would make much difference. At least pricewise.
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I would really wait until the end of the month to see how things will develop.
But if you really really need to buy the card now, i would go for the 380X with the above prices.
 
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monstercameron

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escrow4 said:
So Doom is coming, and it is one of the games that I actually want to play this year. Now I know that you should wait for reviews and you shouldn't buy hardware for unreleased games and all that but right now I have a poky GT 730 (go on giggle I know you want to) after I sold my meh 780 Ti.

I'm only interested in High, or a mix of medium/high at 1200p, nothing more over 40FPS. I originally was going for a 950 but that is a rather pansy GPU, and I don't want to buy yet another Nvidia card so I'm looking at a 380X 4GB, going local for a touch over $300.

So for my very basic requirements should I really wait? I do want to play Day 1.
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Why aren't you considering a 1070? If you want it soon I'd consider a 1070.
It might be Nv but overclocking and AC might make it last longer than the previous generations.
 
Arachnotronic

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tential said:
They're bad deals whether you like it or not. Just because you like the gpus doesn't force other people to agree with you.
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I didn't recommend that the OP buy a GTX 1070, although it would be a better deal at $379 than a $300+ R9 380X at this stage of the game. The OP does need something now though, so R9 380X isn't bad.

Personally I would just go with an R9 390X and be set for a good long while if I had to buy AMD and had to buy right now.
 
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