Public Policy Polling lays a bomb on Jill Stein

Did Jill Stein get burned?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 16.7%
  • No

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • She got incinerated

    Votes: 4 66.7%
  • I am a raging moron

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
    6

norseamd

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Dec 13, 2013
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Oh snap!

Public Policy Polling said:
Dr. Jill Stein said:
The killing of Harambe 3 months ago today reminds us to be a voice for the voiceless.

http://www.jill2016.com/statement_b...ident_on_the_killing_of_harambe_in_cincinnati

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Harambe has more support for President than you

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/769977124304420864
 

werepossum

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Jul 10, 2006
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Poll is defective; there is no "Public Policy Polling is the far left equivalent of Breitbart and whatever they say about anything is of no importance" option.
 

norseamd

Lifer
Dec 13, 2013
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Poll is defective; there is no "Public Policy Polling is the far left equivalent of Breitbart and whatever they say about anything is of no importance" option.

Is it?

I have no idea what Public Policy Polling even is.

But it was a masterful sensei level burn.
 

Aegeon

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Nov 2, 2004
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Poll is defective; there is no "Public Policy Polling is the far left equivalent of Breitbart and whatever they say about anything is of no importance" option.
This is simply not true.

Its in general a perfectly serious regular polling firm, albeit one that tends to relying on automated phone polling.

They do notably also ask period offbeat style questions to get general media attention. In this case there was an actual potential point in establishing what percentage of the voters would be inclined to support any candidate over Trump and Hillary. (Even one whom they presumably knew nothing about unless the individual was sufficiently familiar with a specific internet meme.)
 
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werepossum

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This is simply not true.

Its in general a perfectly serious regular polling firm, albeit one that tends to relying on automated phone polling.

They do notably ask period offbeat style questions to get attention general media attention. In this case there was an actual point in establishing what percentage of the voters would be inclined to support any candidate over Trump and Hillary. (Even one whom they presumably knew nothing about unless the individual was sufficiently familiar with a specific internet meme.)
It's a lib push polling firm, dude. They engage in shady shenanigans, then near the end of the campaign simply adopt someone else's numbers to retain enough of a veneer of respectability to get the money rolling in.

https://newrepublic.com/article/114682/ppp-polling-methodology-opaque-flawed

If one needs to conduct a poll on, say, whether Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer, then Public Policy Polling are the people you buy. http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2016/02...ruz-could-be-the-Zodiac-Killer/4771456519542/

Of course, that one backfired on them. Cruz would have caused me to vote for the Hildabeast. Trump, not so much. Yet, anyway - it ain't over yet.
 

Aegeon

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It's a lib push polling firm, dude.
Obviously that's a dumb claim. If anything recent tracking projections shown them to lean very slightly Republican in their results, and the reality is true push polling is an entirely different category entirely. (Simpy not done period by the truly major firms which actually do rely on showing they can get reasonably accurate results.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

If one needs to conduct a poll on, say, whether Ted Cruz is the Zodiac Killer, then Public Policy Polling are the people you buy. http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2016/02...ruz-could-be-the-Zodiac-Killer/4771456519542/
The firm has also asked among other things if Hillary Clinton "has ties to Lucifer or not" during polling.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/p...clinton-has-ties-to-the-devil/article/2598443

While some have argued each question crossed a line, in both cases there at least was an arguable point in seeing in what percentage of respondents would be willing to attribute anything negative to the other side's candidate in the Presidential race no matter how extreme. In neither case did someone else actually pay them to push poll the particular questions.

An actual paid for push poll design to politically hurt Ted Cruz as much as possible would pick a claim which was more plausible and difficult to easily disprove than something that is actually chronologically impossible baring a time machine.
 
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