public dns server setup

watts3000

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Ok is this possible can one take a dns server that will be running on a lan. The server will be running windows 2000 server lets say one makes that a public dns server behind a router firewall. Can I simply forward the dns request from the router to the box or does that dns server have to have its on public ip address and be put in a dmz zone. This dns server will be used to host 8 public websites with different domain names.
 

WarmAndSCSI

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You'd probably want to outsource DNS hosting to another company. You should place any server you're going to running with multiple services in the DMZ just to save the hastle of opening up every single port it's going to want to use.
 

watts3000

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This is something guys that can't be out sourced it belive me I have tried to talk them into it they want it ran in house. Basically can you please tell me if my origunal post can be accomplished. I only need to run 8 of the public websites the dns box would be behind a netgear nat firewall.
 

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Originally posted by: watts3000
This is something guys that can't be out sourced it belive me I have tried to talk them into it they want it ran in house. Basically can you please tell me if my origunal post can be accomplished. I only need to run 8 of the public websites the dns box would be behind a netgear nat firewall.

yes you can do so with all your current equipment the only thing you MUST have is a static IP. preferably 2 for a secondary dns servre but as its in house if your dns is down i would imagine that everything it poitns to would be as well so kind of a moot point :)
 

watts3000

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Ok they really don't have a static ip they have roadrunner broadband hooked to a netgear router but the router keeps the ip address constant. So I guess you can say they have a static ip. Do you have any info on how a public dns server would be set up using windows 2000.
 

skyking

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Originally posted by: Fuzznuts
Originally posted by: watts3000
This is something guys that can't be out sourced it belive me I have tried to talk them into it they want it ran in house. Basically can you please tell me if my origunal post can be accomplished. I only need to run 8 of the public websites the dns box would be behind a netgear nat firewall.

yes you can do so with all your current equipment the only thing you MUST have is a static IP. preferably 2 for a secondary dns servre but as its in house if your dns is down i would imagine that everything it poitns to would be as well so kind of a moot point :)

he meant a real static IP, not a functionally static IP.
 

azev

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If your IP address ever change, it will take a few days to change the DNS pointer.......
 

watts3000

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Yes I know that but its been the same now for 6 months so I'll have to try my luck. Guys are there any special security features I need to know about running a dns server. Also as I stated before does any one have info on running win2k as a public dns server.
 

Pulsar

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Last time I checked, cable broadband companies all had it in their terms of service that the user signs that you agree not to run servers of any sort - ftp, web, multicast, teamspeak, game, etc.

Has that changed?
 

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Originally posted by: watts3000
Ok they really don't have a static ip they have roadrunner broadband hooked to a netgear router but the router keeps the ip address constant. So I guess you can say they have a static ip. Do you have any info on how a public dns server would be set up using windows 2000.

Hm. Not positive about your situation but here's mine:

I'm on roadrunner. I've got a w2k server on my network hooked straight into the cable modem. It's running DNS with a few entries for the computers on my lan. All other lookups it forwards to roadrunner's DNS server. I've got a 2nd nic in this server and it does my routing for me (I found cable/dsl routers to be kinda restrictive). It works like a champ.

I'm pretty sure you could still do this setup without having the server out in the public. As long as you forward right you should be able to stick a cable/dsl router between your server and the internet.
 

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Originally posted by: LsDPulsar
Last time I checked, cable broadband companies all had it in their terms of service that the user signs that you agree not to run servers of any sort - ftp, web, multicast, teamspeak, game, etc.

Has that changed?

Yep.

The general rule with Time Warner/Roadrunner/Brighthouse (or whatever the !@#$ they change their name to these days) is you can run whatever you want, just don't call tech support asking for help with it.

I think if your bandwidth usage got out of hand and stayed there they might say something but other than that they don't really seem to care.
 

azev

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Most cable modem has a very limited upload bandwidth (128Kb-256Kb). Eventhough you have successfully implement what you want to achieve, can you imagine how slow would that be ???
There are many many cheap affordable webhosting solution that would be a better choice IMHO.

Anyway if you still insist on doing this your self, just create a zone for each domain and add the host record entry for each of the webserver. Then create cname record of www and ftp pointing to each of the webserver; and you are set.
 

watts3000

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Ok I'm a little confused about setting up the public side of dns. Ok I have a system her named exchange1.stephensnetworks.com it was an exchange server but now it will be used for the public dns. Anyway I created the zones using windows 2k dns I than open up port 53 on the router and forwarded it to that system on the lan. After that I went to the place that the domain is registered with tryed to enter in exchange1.stephensnetworks.com. I this following error

"Errors modifying nameservers: Nameserver exchange1.stephensnetworks.com cannot be registered
please do not enter the IP address of your Nameservers, it will not work. Enter only the hostnames of the Nameservers (eg. ns1.nameserver.com)." How do you register a dns server do I need to have exchange1.stephensnetworks.com registered in someone elses dns server before I can use it.
 

ShawnReeves

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Originally posted by: azev
If your IP address ever change, it will take a few days to change the DNS pointer.......

Thats why I use Zoneedit.com and DynDNS.org. If my IP has changed (PPPoE DSL) .I have a script file running on the server to update DynDNS.org with my new IP. I have it set to send my IP every ten minutes. If my IP has changed (PPPoE DSL) I lookup (c:\nslookup yoursite.com) the new IP and go to zoneedit.com and enter the new IP address and bam!, its back online.
Not the best way in the world but its FREE and FREE wins! :D