psychotherapy

violetman

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Are you aware what phsychoterapy is ?
I'm interested in the subject,and i want to know what kind of medicine do you use for
psychoterapy......
It's foe my studies:):sun:
 

Spoooon

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In some cases, psychotherapy is meant to supplement medication. In other cases, medication is unnecessary. And there are many theories of psychotherapy. Psychoanalysis, individual psychology, ego counseling, self-theory, and the list goes on.
 

amnesiac

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You should study spelling first.

Psychotherapy is just how it sounds - therapy for the mind.
As Spoooooooooooon said, it may or may not be supplemented with medication depending on type and severity of the disorder.
There are MANY different types of psychotherapy, and each of the methods is based on the principles of the pioneering psychologist. Certain types work better for certain disorders.
 

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via dictionary.com

The treatment of mental and emotional disorders through the use of psychological techniques designed to encourage communication of conflicts and insight into problems, with the goal being relief of symptoms, changes in behavior leading to improved social and vocational functioning, and personality growth.
 

JosephSaint

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Those drugs they use are not worth it i say.It's like you 'd take heroine,very very simmilar:p
And how could one know if someone has sick mind,Freud didn't know it .....
 

madthumbs

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A good friend can replace a psychotherapist imho. This isn't to say you shouldn't see a psycologist, but you should "try" to be a good friend to someone that may need one. I have fealt chemically imbalanced and used Paxil to get happy for a while. There is a withdrawal to it though.
 

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Those drugs they use are not worth it i say.It's like you 'd take heroine,very very simmilar
And how could one know if someone has sick mind,Freud didn't know it .....
That's why they only pay shrinks who have been to school and not read a chapter on freud
 

Sust

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I wouldnt downplay the psych meds. Sometimes, people have to hunt around for that right combo/dosage before they find that sweet spot where they can function better w/o too many side effects. Then there are those who take it and find that it brings everything in their lives back together again.
Everyone reacts differently to this stuff since we have a pretty diverse interaction of genes and enzymes in our very diverse brains.

Oh, and in regards to the psychotherapy stuff.... Mental illnesses definitely have a biological basis. And I aint no psychiatrist, but from what I've seen, psychotherapy is much more effective when the person is more... attentive and open to the idea of change. Typically when someone is knee deep in some sort of mental illness like schizophrenia, no amount of psychotherapy is going to work because your statements are being mixed in with all of the other auditory/visual/tactile hallucinations/delusions they might be experiencing. Meds could be very helpful in treating the hallucinations/delusions for such a case and bring the patient back to a point where they are able to listen to you better.
This is why people typically favor a combo of psych meds and psychotherapy.
 

JosephSaint

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I've heared that there were cases in World History that some countries have had "crazy" or "mad" leaders(f.e.one king of England)
Is it possible then that some definetly sane and normal people are beign missjuged and treated in a very bad way only becouse someone made a mistake?
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: madthumbs
A good friend can replace a psychotherapist imho. This isn't to say you shouldn't see a psycologist, but you should "try" to be a good friend to someone that may need one. I have fealt chemically imbalanced and used Paxil to get happy for a while. There is a withdrawal to it though.

You have your terms mixed up. Psychologists don't ever prescribe medication, except in the odd case of some in Arizona where the state has altered laws to that effect. Psychiatrists are MDs and prescribe meds, and offer little to no help in terms of psychotherapy.

Psychologists/psychotherapists are the ones you actually "talk" to about your problems. Sure, in some minor cases a friend offering his/her shoulder to cry on may help, but in cases of more severe disorders unless that friend is trained in methods to diagnose and treat said disorders it's possible they will do more harm than good. What if your "friend" had no idea how to deal with someone who is depressed to the point of being suicidal and makes it worse?

Also, what do you mean you "felt" chemically imbalanced? You mean your doctor told you that your depression or anxiety was possibly due to a chemical imbalance and gave you Paxil to fix it, right? GAD and depression can be alleviated with ways other than medication because the whole "chemical imbalance" issue is a lot more rare of an occurance than the medical industry likes us to believe. If more people tried therapy and alternative treatments, there would be a lot fewer college students on antidepressants and a lot fewer teens on Adderall.

Whatever happens, the worst thing to do to anyone is tell them "hey you should get on X medication." Scientists are still trying to figure out how SSRIs work, because the effects of each particular drug can be completely different from person to person. For example, I know plenty of people who do fine on one med alone, i.e. Paxil. Others get fixed after being on Wellbutrin. Some are more difficult. At one time, I was on paxil, wellbutrin, depakote, and neurontin to help me sleep.

As much as we'd like to put our faith in modern science, the majority of the human brain's functioning is still a mystery to us. I'm a big advocate of working through most mental issues rather than throwing medication at the problems until they go away.


edit: I agree with Sust, above. He makes some good points, in particular the necessity of combination therapy/medication for severe cases. Extremely severe illnesses are very rare, however, and as such my original point stands that the majority of "disorders" can be fixed without the need for medication.
 

amnesiac

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Originally posted by: JosephSaint
I've heared that there were cases in World History that some countries have had "crazy" or "mad" leaders(f.e.one king of England)
Is it possible then that some definetly sane and normal people are beign missjuged and treated in a very bad way only becouse someone made a mistake?

If you're talking about King George III, he was actually insane. He had a condition known as porphyria and possibly schizophrenia.

THere are few cases where sane people have been mistaken for insane. I recall one incident some time ago when a group of perfectly healthy, sane individuals participated in a trial to see if they could get admitted into an asylum. They got admitted, were treated as mentally ill, and abused, until their release was arranged.
 

violetman

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That's what Joseph said,you are never sure wheather a person is sane or not.And if something is not certain, unquestionable than it is not true.
Imagine a situation where you live your live,you have many friends,you have good notes in school(never have reapeted a class,or fail the exam)
and suddenly someone comes and says you are a mad man.You have never commited a crime and yet you are punished.(etc.etc.)
It's all strange for me.
 

Spoooon

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Originally posted by: violetman
That's what Joseph said,you are never sure wheather a person is sane or not.And if something is not certain, unquestionable than it is not true.
Imagine a situation where you live your live,you have many friends,you have good notes in school(never have reapeted a class,or fail the exam)
and suddenly someone comes and says you are a mad man.You have never commited a crime and yet you are punished.(etc.etc.)
It's all strange for me.

What do you mean punished? It's not like there are bands of psychotherapists running around looking for people to commit to asylums.
 

violetman

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Originally posted by: Spoooon
Originally posted by: violetman
That's what Joseph said,you are never sure wheather a person is sane or not.And if something is not certain, unquestionable than it is not true.
Imagine a situation where you live your live,you have many friends,you have good notes in school(never have reapeted a class,or fail the exam)
and suddenly someone comes and says you are a mad man.You have never commited a crime and yet you are punished.(etc.etc.)
It's all strange for me.

What do you mean punished? It's not like there are bands of psychotherapists running around looking for people to commit to asylums.

Have you heared about pain treatment?I mean a man tries to run away from the pain all trough his life,so how can it be any good?
For example electric-shocks:you are beign connected to electric Generator-almost the same as in Electric chair where you kill villains-only
this time Current tension is a bit smaller and wires touch only your head.

IT's an Evident Abuse,cruel abuse,Just like years ago doctors used to take your blood away to kill a virus.You don't do it anymore,WHY?
 

JosephSaint

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I just wanted to say that i'm Marcin Piechota and i'm solely against that kind of imprisonmant and abusing from the people who represent
medicine.It's totally unhuman to me that you can do just about everything with a person and a one and only reason for that is money:(