Pssst, the US Women Soccer team has advanced to the World Cup Final! Edit - 'Murica!

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radhak

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purbeast0 said:
the first 16 minutes was exactly why womens sports are just boring to me for the most part - they have such less skill than the guys and just aren't as refined. japan was extremely sloppy which is why they were down by 4 goals so quickly. it wasn't like the usa made 4 amazing plays and had 4 amazing goals, it was more japan playing poorly than anything, especially that goal from midfield.
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BS. Anytime in sport a side is dominant, the other side makes a lot of mistakes. A bad game is when neither side steps up to take advantage of the mistakes by the other team. Japan imploded in the first twenty minutes because of that first goal, which was brilliant. You can see Lloyd threading her way in because she could anticipate the ball's trajectory and saw an opening.

Actually Japan recovered and did pretty well in the 2nd half, but that goal and the aftermath did them in. Nothing in all that takes away anything from the US team - it only adds to their aura that they dazzled their opponents so early on.

Ophir said:
You know how I know you don't know anything about soccer? Stupid BS like this is how.

The first goal may have been one of the two or three finest executions of set pieces I've ever seen. Watch it again. Everyone on the pitch is looking up for a ball that exploits the US height advantage. The Lloyd makes about a 30 yd run where Rapinoe times it perfectly, threads it through two defenders, and Lloyd buries it with the outside of her left foot. Brilliant.

The fourth goal will be talked about for years. People still compliment Beckham on a similar shot 20 years ago. In fact:
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Well said.

edro said:
I agree. I thought 3 of the 4 goals were great.
The 1st and 4th were awesome goals in my book.

The 4th looked easy, but it wasn't.
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That 4th goal is what many players want to make - they keep practicing for just such an opening, and Carly found it yesterday - the defence was up the field, the goalie was out of the box, and she went for her kick. She added later that she had visualized this goal so many times in practice. That's the only way you get 'lucky' in international sport.

And not to forget - that first Japanese goal was also very smooth - the way the player (Ogimi?) trapped the ball, swiveled and took her time to gauge the goalie and shot it in, all in a single action. And those waves of Japanese attacks at the end must have made the US relieved that she had a huge buffer to defend.

All in all, a great game, higher in quality than many of the ones in the men's world cup last year.
 
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purbeast0 said:
the first 16 minutes was exactly why womens sports are just boring to me for the most part - they have such less skill than the guys and just aren't as refined. japan was extremely sloppy which is why they were down by 4 goals so quickly. it wasn't like the usa made 4 amazing plays and had 4 amazing goals, it was more japan playing poorly than anything, especially that goal from midfield.

not to take anything away from the womens team though, great for them to win and it will be good for womens soccer here. but in about a day or two, this will be a distant memory, and come august when the big nfl talk starts, it will be completely lost. it's just on during the "perfect storm" of sports in the usa where we have no other sports to care about right now so people can focus on it.
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Like others said, your assessment kinda sucks.

You act like men's sports don't feature a shit ton of sloppy play. Remember when the Broncos got fucking murdered by the Seahawks in the Super Bowl? Or do you remember that MNF game last year when the Pats (you know the team that went on to win the Super Bowl?) played so badly that the media immediately started speculating that Brady and the Pats were over?

Uh, it's cool that you can explain how time and human memory works because that's literally what happens to all sports as time passes from when it happened, it all becomes distant memory. Literally. And come March the Super Bowl will become a distant memory as people focus on March Madness and other stuff. And the cycle goes on. Ok, well if it's a douche that runs their mouth about their team then yeah we'll make sure they don't forget about the Broncos losing in overtime to the Ravens.

Not only that but you act like a sporting event that only happens once every 4 years should somehow be on everyone's minds constantly the whole time for it to have any significance.
 
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Ophir said:
You know how I know you don't know anything about soccer? Stupid BS like this is how.

The first goal may have been one of the two or three finest executions of set pieces I've ever seen. Watch it again. Everyone on the pitch is looking up for a ball that exploits the US height advantage. The Lloyd makes about a 30 yd run where Rapinoe times it perfectly, threads it through two defenders, and Lloyd buries it with the outside of her left foot. Brilliant.

The fourth goal will be talked about for years. People still compliment Beckham on a similar shot 20 years ago. In fact:
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never claimed to be an expert at soccer, just stating that women's sports in general look very sloppy compared to mens soccer and that the quick goals were due to japan playing sloopy for the most part rather than incredible plays.

that goal from midfield? come on ... that is 100% because the japan goalie was not paying attention and took herself out of position. then i believe it was the third goal only happened because the japanese chick made a terrible header that didn't clear out of the box.

again, not discrediting the women's usa team at all because they put themselves into that position in the first place, to be able to capitalize on japan's mistakes, but just stating that women's sports aren't as refined as the men's counterparts typically are and are overall more sloppy.
 
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beast, all of those things happen in the mens game quite often

poor defending, poor clearance, goalie not in the right place, they all happen all the time
 
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purbeast0 said:
the first 16 minutes was exactly why womens sports are just boring to me for the most part - they have such less skill than the guys and just aren't as refined. japan was extremely sloppy which is why they were down by 4 goals so quickly. it wasn't like the usa made 4 amazing plays and had 4 amazing goals, it was more japan playing poorly than anything, especially that goal from midfield.

not to take anything away from the womens team though, great for them to win and it will be good for womens soccer here. but in about a day or two, this will be a distant memory, and come august when the big nfl talk starts, it will be completely lost. it's just on during the "perfect storm" of sports in the usa where we have no other sports to care about right now so people can focus on it.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there, the first two goals the US made were brilliant. Third one was sloppy; fourth one was a great strike in midair, with defenders draping around. They were just much better.
 
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purbeast0 said:
that goal from midfield? come on ... that is 100% because the japan goalie was not paying attention and took herself out of position. then i believe it was the third goal only happened because the japanese chick made a terrible header that didn't clear out of the box.
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It takes vision an audaciousness to score a goal like that. Watch Carli Lloyd again and see how fast she acts after the quick look at the keeper...

Here are two more long range strikes, both amazing goals (note both happen very quickly and after a very quick look at the keeper)...

Charlie Adam vs. Chelsea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIvSyrH4Ng

David Beckham
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxwwRRVnm0

There is some luck involved in these goals - the goalie has to be out of position. What makes them great is the vision to see the opportunity and the technique to pull it off.
 
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GasX said:
It takes vision an audaciousness to score a goal like that. Watch Carli Lloyd again and see how fast she acts after the quick look at the keeper...

There is some luck involved in these goals - the goalie has to be out of position. What makes them great is the vision to see the opportunity and the technique to pull it off.
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her move around the defender just to get a chance at that goal was amazing.

KeithTalent said:
That is one is pretty badass. :thumbsup:

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Surprised those don't happen more often. Maybe it's just the camera angle that makes it cool. Every pro should know how to curve a ball. It's not any different than throwing a curveball (counter-clockwise spin), except soccer players should know how to kick it with spin both ways. The hardest part about soccer is getting that open for a shot.
 
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her move around the defender just to get a chance at that goal was amazing.



Surprised those don't happen more often. Maybe it's just the camera angle that makes it cool. Every pro should know how to curve a ball. It's not any different than throwing a curveball (counter-clockwise spin), except soccer players should know how to kick it with spin both ways. The hardest part about soccer is getting that open for a shot.
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hardest part about that shot is actually not hitting it into the stratosphere. happens all the time, slight miscalc on the height or it takes an strange bounce you don't anticipate and BAM its into the stands

watch the EPL the world class mens players f it up all the time
 
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purbeast0 said:
it wasn't like the usa made 4 amazing plays and had 4 amazing goals, it was more japan playing poorly than anything, especially that goal from midfield.
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It's some of both. Japan did play poorly, and the USWNT skilfully exploited their fuckups...especially the goal from midfield. Lloyd didn't just bomb the ball and hope for the best, it was pretty good skill to recognize from half that the keeper was out of position, and then strike the ball well enough to make the shot.
 
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Anubis said:
FWIW Brazil was down 5-0 in 29 min when they played Germany in the world cup last year (Men)
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Well, to be fair, Brazil's national team is in shambles and a shadow of it's former self. They are built around Neymar, who was injured and out of that match. The coach was terrible and despite having a bunch of talent, they simply didn't have the leadership and management to win.
Gooberlx2 said:
It's some of both. Japan did play poorly, and the USWNT skilfully exploited their fuckups...especially the goal from midfield. Lloyd didn't just bomb the ball and hope for the best, it was pretty good skill to recognize from half that the keeper was out of position, and then strike the ball well enough to make the shot.
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Yeah, she didn't simply Tim Howard it and just punt it down the field into the goal.
 
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