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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Originally posted by: Zebo
Lifting should never be done for certain body types as it turn them into muscle bound heart attack victims waiting to happen.

It takes more than just lifting to put on muscle. Also, what makes you think lifting leads to heart attacks?


Yeah, where did you get the whole heart attack thing?

Also you make it sound like people lift a couple dumbbells and wake up the next morning with and extra 100 lbs. of muscle. It just doesn't work that way. If it were that easy, there would be a lot more 250+ hulking behemoths out there.


Some people can look at a set of weights and gain 2" on their biceps aka mesomorphs. they shouldn't touch a weight.

I am a meso. Things are not that easy.

Certain individuals should not do traditional resistance exercise, such as patients with unstable angina, uncontrolled high blood pressure, uncontrolled arrhythmias (irregular heartbeat), severe valvular disease, or heart failure patients who have not been evaluated by a physician.

Running alone is not going to help you lift a bag of groceries when you are 80 years old.
 
Mar 9, 2005
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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Originally posted by: Zebo
Lifting should never be done for certain body types as it turn them into muscle bound heart attack victims waiting to happen.

It takes more than just lifting to put on muscle. Also, what makes you think lifting leads to heart attacks?


Yeah, where did you get the whole heart attack thing?

Also you make it sound like people lift a couple dumbbells and wake up the next morning with and extra 100 lbs. of muscle. It just doesn't work that way. If it were that easy, there would be a lot more 250+ hulking behemoths out there.


Some people can look at a set of weights and gain 2" on their biceps aka mesomorphs. they shouldn't touch a weight.

Do you have a link to a peer-reviewed study demonstrating heart attacks in weight-trained individuals?

Also the people you are describing are 1 in a million, if that.

Nothing peer reviewed would ever come to such a conclusion.
 

Special K

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Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: shortspanishguy
Originally posted by: Zebo
Lifting should never be done for certain body types as it turn them into muscle bound heart attack victims waiting to happen.

It takes more than just lifting to put on muscle. Also, what makes you think lifting leads to heart attacks?


Yeah, where did you get the whole heart attack thing?

Also you make it sound like people lift a couple dumbbells and wake up the next morning with and extra 100 lbs. of muscle. It just doesn't work that way. If it were that easy, there would be a lot more 250+ hulking behemoths out there.


Some people can look at a set of weights and gain 2" on their biceps aka mesomorphs. they shouldn't touch a weight.

Do you have a link to a peer-reviewed study demonstrating heart attacks in weight-trained individuals?

Also the people you are describing are 1 in a million, if that.

Nothing peer reviewed would ever come to such a conclusion.

My point exactly ;)

While I'm not saying that everything about that lifestyle is healthy, I am suspicious of unsupported claims. Just look at the media - protein/creatine will kill you, etc. etc. - these claims aren't backed by anything.

 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
Originally posted by: Zebo
Stupid book. You can eat whatever the hell you want if you run 7 miles a day and have perfect blood chemistry. Lifting should never be done for certain body types as it turn them into muscle bound heart attack victims waiting to happen. Fitness is simple - run.

This book suggests a cardio style of lifting. I am happy for you and your e-penis that you run and are in such fantastic shape.

I do wind sprints for my twenty minutes of cardio or just run 3 miles in 18 minutes flat, or play college length fullcourt basketball for 3 hours.

But go ahead and try tell someone who is 60 pounds overweight to just go out and start running... they'll stop, with good reason, after their knees, shins, and feet start hurting. They can start running when they are in shape.

I started out Feb at 258(around 60lbs overweight, Im 6'2")On average for the month of Feb Ive done about 1hr a day on an eliptical near max resistence(20 out of 25). Heart rate stays in the upper 150s. According to the machine Im burning 1100 calories a hour, but Im skeptical of that so I say 1000 max. Im sure I could optimize it more. Its been 4 weeks Ive lost 10lbs. Im still working on the diet, its VASTLY improved but still has a ways to go. I plan to add weights three days a week after spring break(two more weeks of just cardio). If I can get my diet under control, ie: cutting soda and junk food out completely. Right now Ive gone from 6-8 dr peppers a day to 1-2 a day, and junk food only every few days.

Id like to get as close to 200 as possible by June 20. Starting June 21 Ill be in Spain for a month.