PSA to fellow liberals: Conservatives don't want our advice on how to win elections

[yllus]

So let's lay off with the "advice" with which we pretend to be helpful but really just want them to shift closer to our views, okay? Seriously.

 

[wuliheron]

So let's lay off with the "advice" with which we pretend to be helpful but really just want them to shift closer to our views, okay? Seriously.

LOL, as if republicans even listen to each other half the time.

 

[UberNeuman]

ah, to offer the olive branch...

tis' noble...

\let me know when they are able or care to accept it....

 

[techs]

Yes, but the Republicans are wondering whether were giving them our advice to psych them out. Do we really want to help? Or do we know they will think we are psyching them out and do the opposite?

It's just too much fun watching them chase their tails.
Yesterday the Queen of the Anti Immigration movement Jan Brewer gave an interview where she changed her view and was willing to compromise. Then a few hours later put out a press release she mispoke. The Republicans are in full meltdown mode.

 

[UberNeuman]

Only Nixon could go to China...

 

[Phokus]

Let the GOP be destroyed then.

 

[woolfe9999]

If they want to think that running far right candidates will win them elections, let them think it. Just be aware that the logic runs like this: we lost an election to a liberal because we didn't run far enough to the right. If they don't want our advice on how to think logically, that's their call.

 

[dullard]

So let's lay off with the "advice" with which we pretend to be helpful but really just want them to shift closer to our views, okay? Seriously.

So you are saying no to GOP death panels?

 

[DrPizza]

You know (in case any Republicans are reading this), I really wish that one of the right wing loons candidates was running. Romney wasn't conservative enough, therefore I voted for Obama. I know this makes sense to you, because other things make sense to the right wing, such as a 6000 year old Earth.

 

[Jhhnn]

The beautiful thing about offering them suggestions is that they'll automatically be rejected, simply because we offered them, so it's important to offer really good suggestions, ones that might help them to win in the future.

They'll self destruct out of sheer spitefulness...

 

[RabidMongoose]

I'm not pretending to be helpful. I want the GOP to destroy itself.

 

[irishScott]

Wow, another bash Republicans thread. I guess those psychological experiments were right, libs here are masturbating until they starve.

 

[UberNeuman]

Wow, another bash Republicans thread. I guess those psychological experiments were right, libs here are masturbating until they starve.

You're part of the troubles of the GOP...

\rise or sink.... it's up to you and those like minded...

 

[Screech]

Driving through central california on I-5 today I tried to assuage my boredom by listening to conservative talk radio on AM radio. Holy shit that stuff was hilarious. Basically a mix of "OMG the communist dictatorship is taking over" coupled with "romney lost because he didn't listen to conservatives" and "republicans were losing because they compromised too much!" (hilarious when the more reasonable republicans would lose in their primaries to the tea party which would then get killed in the general).

 

[irishScott]

You're part of the troubles of the GOP...

\rise or sink.... it's up to you and those like minded...

I'm not a member of the GOP and have voted for multiple Democrats in the last several years. Thank you for assuming that I was though. It shows the... irrational binary fixation that plagues many on this forum.

For another example, the idea that de-facto single-party rule is a good thing. And you people call the GOP fascist?

Yes you can pull out various GOP kooks that put out hilariously stupid one liners and laugh. But when you start assuming that comprises all or ever most of the Republican party, you simply display your own ignorance. You people obviously have no real knowledge of the Republican party, only amusing anecdotes and imagined knowledge based on perceptions of maybe a dozen individuals.

The blinders are strong in this forum.

 

[UberNeuman]

I'm not a member of the GOP and have voted for multiple Democrats in the last several years. Thank you for assuming that I was though. It shows the... irrational binary fixation that plagues many on this forum.

For another example, the idea that de-facto single-party rule is a good thing. And you people call the GOP fascist?

Yes you can pull out various GOP kooks that put out hilariously stupid one liners and laugh. But when you start assuming that comprises all or ever most of the Republican party, you simply display your own ignorance. You people obviously have no real knowledge of the Republican party, only amusing anecdotes and imagined knowledge based on perceptions of maybe a dozen individuals.

The blinders are strong in this forum.

That you've overthought my comment speaks volumes....

 

[SlitheryDee]

The GOP is going to decline as long as they stick close to religious ideals and all the decisions that spring from them. If they could break away from that, they would be the preferred party. The Democratic Party has fatal flaws as well. We've just gotten to the point where there is no logically preferable opposition. Beware of what will happen if the Republican Party gets usurped by something more socially progressive and still fiscally conservative.

 

[irishScott]

That you've overthought my comment speaks volumes....

I suppose I was responding more to the thread as a whole, your post included. Since the election this forum has been little more than "Haha Republicans r duh lostest!" It's like watching a morbidly obese slob obsessively shoving three 1 lb burgers down their throat.

 

[buckshot24]

Liberals, take your advice and ram it up your asses. At least there it might do a little good.

Why the hell should we listen to people who want us to lose?

 

[Jhhnn]

I'm not a member of the GOP and have voted for multiple Democrats in the last several years. Thank you for assuming that I was though. It shows the... irrational binary fixation that plagues many on this forum.

For another example, the idea that de-facto single-party rule is a good thing. And you people call the GOP fascist?

Nobody offered that. OTOH, many have offered that these aren't your grandfather's republicans, at all. If they were, they wouldn't be nearly as extreme. When the minority party manages to completely thwart the agenda of the majority party, that's a whole different kind of single party rule. Repubs' actions over the last 4 years are completely unprecedented in that regard.

Yes you can pull out various GOP kooks that put out hilariously stupid one liners and laugh. But when you start assuming that comprises all or ever most of the Republican party, you simply display your own ignorance. You people obviously have no real knowledge of the Republican party, only amusing anecdotes and imagined knowledge based on perceptions of maybe a dozen individuals.

The blinders are strong in this forum.

Pull out the platform of the Republican party of Texas, for example. If it doesn't express Texas Repubs' goals & aspirations, what does?

Blinders? Best check your own before commenting on others'....

 

[Jhhnn]

The GOP is going to decline as long as they stick close to religious ideals and all the decisions that spring from them. If they could break away from that, they would be the preferred party. The Democratic Party has fatal flaws as well. We've just gotten to the point where there is no logically preferable opposition. Beware of what will happen if the Republican Party gets usurped by something more socially progressive and still fiscally conservative.

How is it that Repubs have somehow claimed the mantle of fiscal responsibility, anyway? The federal debt more than quadrupled under the leadership of RR/GHWB, then doubled again under the leadership of GWB & a Repub congress. Deficits didn't matter when Repubs were running the show, but now they're the devil incarnate when Repubs aren't, when we're in the midst of the greatest economic depression since 1929...

 

[UberNeuman]

I suppose I was responding more to the thread as a whole, your post included. Since the election this forum has been little more than "Haha Republicans r duh lostest!" It's like watching a morbidly obese slob obsessively shoving three 1 lb burgers down their throat.

Now, you are kidding me... really?

Among most of us - has been major restraint; gloating happens, but the question of what the other party has to offer...

\the answer is lacking...

 

[SlitheryDee]

How is it that Repubs have somehow claimed the mantle of fiscal responsibility, anyway? The federal debt more than quadrupled under the leadership of RR/GHWB, then doubled again under the leadership of GWB & a Repub congress. Deficits didn't matter when Repubs were running the show, but now they're the devil incarnate when Repubs aren't, when we're in the midst of the greatest economic depression since 1929...

We've been hearing mention of deficits all our lives, but the increase in outcry against it has only slightly exceeded the increase of the thing itself in recent years. It really has ballooned out of control, and we have several administrations to blame for it, in addition to aspects fundamental to our government. The deficit "felt" manageable during the bush era, even though it was already rising almost exponentially. That's why it only registered as a blip on the radar. Obama hasn't helped in that regard either. Rather he seems to have just continued that same exponential rise in the deficit, only the total amount is hitting levels that are finally shocking people. True fiscal conservatism would solve this. I guess we can't really claim the Republicans are even that anymore, as you have well stated. Even so, the Democrats aren't either. They don't even really claim to be, which the Republicans do at least.

 

[irishScott]

Nobody offered that. OTOH, many have offered that these aren't your grandfather's republicans, at all. If they were, they wouldn't be nearly as extreme. When the minority party manages to completely thwart the agenda of the majority party, that's a whole different kind of single party rule. Repubs' actions over the last 4 years are completely unprecedented in that regard.



Pull out the platform of the Republican party of Texas, for example. If it doesn't express Texas Repubs' goals & aspirations, what does?

Blinders? Best check your own before commenting on others'....

From Phokus in this very thread:

Let the GOP be destroyed then.

And I've read similar sentiment echoed elsewhere.

Republicans haven't had single-party rule since the early days of Bush. Abuse of the filibuster gave them some added power, but hardly decisive rule.


Of all those who voted in the last election, how many do you think were active participants in their party? Not many. In an environment where there is no real incentive to be involved or consequence for being uninvolved, the radicals get a disproportionately large share in the decision-making. I know plenty of Republicans who disagree with much of the Republican platform, and the scientifically verified growing Libertarian streak amongst Republicans supports this. Why do you think there's so much talk of a GOP "civil war"?

 

[jackschmittusa]

Earlier on in W's stint, I kept hearing little things that lead me to believe that the plan was to purposely run the country broke so they could claim that there was no longer enough money left to fund: the arts, PBS, Pell grants, Headstart, etc.. Now they are making the call and hope to succeed.