PSA: There are legitimate uses for weed that do not involve uses for getting high

[her209]

At least that's what I'm told by the potheads.

 

[HAL9000]

I can confirm there are also legitimate uses of watches that are not telling the time... Or maybe that's the pot... :hmm:

 

[Red Dawn]

To make movies and music

 

[preslove]

Carl Sagan and Richard Feynman were both legitimately helped by getting high. Or, so they said.

 

[Leros]

You can do most of that stuff with low quality marijuana with low THC that isn't really smokable.

Take that hippies.

 

[preslove]

For many of the medicinal uses of weed, the "high" is the whole point. It helps a great deal with chronic pain and discomfort. The "munchies" are pretty helpful when you have a wasting disease or are going through chemo (vomit-city).

 

[bfdd]

sure as fuck helps me deal with my IBS. sitting through work sober can be gruesome at times, so glad my employer understands and we have 1 - 2 work from home days a week I can take advantage of.

 

[destrekor]

For many of the medicinal uses of weed, the "high" is the whole point. It helps a great deal with chronic pain and discomfort. The "munchies" are pretty helpful when you have a wasting disease or are going through chemo (vomit-city).

pain management can actually be done at doses where you barely feel anything.

It like kind of be like the buzz of half a vicodin tablet type "high". Basically getting good pain relief doesn't require you to consume so much you get high, but it's perfectly alright to use such effective dosages. The more the merrier, which is usually untrue at some point for most pharmacological chemicals.

I mean, you just keep smoking weed, the pain keeps getting less and less. And then, you feel no pain, and might get surprised by the alarm.

 

[DangerAardvark]

For many of the medicinal uses of weed, the "high" is the whole point. It helps a great deal with chronic pain and discomfort. The "munchies" are pretty helpful when you have a wasting disease or are going through chemo (vomit-city).

No, but we need to synthesize marijuana so we can separate the high from the nausea relief and appetite inducing effects. Because that's a huge problem right now: cancer patients are feeling too good.

 

[zanejohnson]

i just hate how acetaminophen (tylenol) is fine.. when you can take too many (less than comes in a bottle) and go into renal failure... and you could eat your stomach full of pot and be fine. and it's much more effective at any dose than apap, for pain relief.

 

[davmat787]

No, but we need to synthesize marijuana so we can separate the high from the nausea relief and appetite inducing effects. Because that's a huge problem right now: cancer patients are feeling too good.

Maybe my sarcasm meter is broken, but I don't think there are any cancer patients that are feeling "too good". When people use medical marijuana for valid reasons they don't even get high as a healthy person would as their dopamine/seratonin levels are in the gutter. They are lucky if the medication returns them to a normal sober persons level.

And they have tried to synthesize marijuana, it is called Marinol. Why does it even need to be synthesized in the first place anyway? What do you think that would do to the cost and efficacy? No one has OD'ed on marijuana, can you say the same from prescription drugs?

Yea, lets turn a naturally occurring plant into a synthesized drug spending millions of dollars doing so and make it more dangerous!

 

[bfdd]

the only reason people want to synthesize the drug is so they can patent it and make money off it. that is retarded. it occurs naturally, so fuck them.

btw, i don't just consume for my medical needs, i do it because i enjoy it as well. i just don't see why either decision to consume should be weighed more than the other. no one suffers or is harmed by my consumption.

 

[davmat787]

i just hate how acetaminophen (tylenol) is fine.. when you can take too many (less than comes in a bottle) and go into renal failure... and you could eat your stomach full of pot and be fine. and it's much more effective at any dose than apap, for pain relief.

No kidding. The regulators and legislators still have a reefer madness perception of marijuana. I can just see them scheming up ways to avoid legalizing it while consuming massive quantities of alcohol paid for by big pharma lobbyists.

From what I understand the largest contributors to anti marijuana campaigns are alcohol companies and big pharma. What does that say?

 

[bfdd]

davmat, no one has any perception of marijuana as reefer madness. most of those assholes have probably consumed or know people who have consumed marijuana. they are just in the pockets of people or have the stigma you do thinking everyone still perceives it as reefer madness. I can't speak for everywhere, but in California no one really gives a flying fuck about marijuana. It's as common as booze.

 

[zanejohnson]

i can obviously see the risk of addiction...anything that alters the way you normally feel, has risk for addiction...however, i see pot as the lesser of all the evils... to me, it's on about the same level as caffeine... less addictive then tobacco, WAY less addictive than alcohol, way way way less than benzos/opiates... about the same as caffeine

 

[zinfamous]

i just hate how acetaminophen (tylenol) is fine.. when you can take too many (less than comes in a bottle) and go into renal failure... and you could eat your stomach full of pot and be fine. and it's much more effective at any dose than apap, for pain relief.

I don't know what to do with myself today, because I am going to have to agree with zanejohnson.

 

[HAL9000]

I don't know what to do with myself today, because I am going to have to agree with zanejohnson.

As long as you don't agree with me then I think socially you're fine.

 

[zanejohnson]

I don't know what to do with myself today, because I am going to have to agree with zanejohnson.

whoa now buddy, we can't have this, forum may fall apart

and what did you do with zimfamous :squint:

 

[Leros]

For many of the medicinal uses of weed, the "high" is the whole point. It helps a great deal with chronic pain and discomfort. The "munchies" are pretty helpful when you have a wasting disease or are going through chemo (vomit-city).

It looks like they're figuring out how to separate the medicinal part of the marijuana from the high.

http://sciencedude.ocregister.com/2010/11/17/medical-marijuana-without-the-high/114728/

 

[erikistired]

yes, and most people use bit torrent for legit reasons as well. oh wait....

i wonder what we'd find if we could get a realistic count on the number of card carrying medical marijuana users who don't have any medical need for it.

 

[bfdd]

yes, and most people use bit torrent for legit reasons as well. oh wait....

i wonder what we'd find if we could get a realistic count on the number of card carrying medical marijuana users who don't have any medical need for it.

who cares? imo "i have a headache" is a good enough reason to take whatever the fuck it is you want to take.

 

[davmat787]

yes, and most people use bit torrent for legit reasons as well. oh wait....

i wonder what we'd find if we could get a realistic count on the number of card carrying medical marijuana users who don't have any medical need for it.

As a proponent of medical marijuana, I agree with the gist of this. It seems like scrips are give out way too easily, and I don't want the system abused and shutdown because of it as it would only harm those who legitimately benefit from it.

 

[destrekor]

the only reason people want to synthesize the drug is so they can patent it and make money off it. that is retarded. it occurs naturally, so fuck them.

btw, i don't just consume for my medical needs, i do it because i enjoy it as well. i just don't see why either decision to consume should be weighed more than the other. no one suffers or is harmed by my consumption.

I am quite curious as to the real debates that may be happening between elected officials, while they bicker whether to vote a bill into law or not.

Is there pressure from the government to basically try and get a quality synthetics out? Even then, what's the point, because with synthetics, there would be even less of a chance of it becoming legal (or OTC), due to the fact that synthetics will likely be sold in easily-abusable doses (32 gelcaps in an OTC bottle? I'll take 8! OMG I'm freaking out and sick as shit! ).

They basically just need to promote vaporizers at every level of the legal marijuana battle... that gives patients all the goods with no products of combustion.

They seriously need to just mass-farming marijuana on the tobacco level. Also open up hemp growing in general. Excess material from good plants, plus the highly-fibrous non-psychoactive marijuana plants ("hemp")... and you have an insane amount of biomass ready to be turned into ethanol. Hemp, with strains specifically grown for the lengthy and strong fibers, is an incredibly rich plant, can be grown very densely, and would yield far more ethanol per planted acre than most major crops used for ethanol production currently. And most importantly, it can be grown basically anywhere that can be considered a temperate climate. Essentially, during the regular growing season, it can be grown basically across the entirety of the continental U.S.

 

[IGBT]

yes. rope.

 

[zanejohnson]

saw a documentary the other day about how the elevator manufacturer "ThyssenKraup" now has adapted to using hemp seed oil to lubricate there machines


apparently the oil can last like 70 something years and requires far less maintainence

pretty cool