PSA: The correct abbreviation for PCI Express is PCIe

[MercenaryForHire]

That is all. Thank you.

- M4H

 

[Matthias99]

I'm actually sort of curious as to why you posted this now rather than, say, 12 months ago.

People, for the most part, seem to be actually using the correct abbreviation now. But hey, if it means less people calling it "PCI-X", I'm all for it.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: Matthias99
I'm actually sort of curious as to why you posted this now rather than, say, 12 months ago.

People, for the most part, seem to be actually using the correct abbreviation now. But hey, if it means less people calling it "PCI-X", I'm all for it.

Because, say, 12 months ago - it was in my sig, and several others. But people are still calling it PCI-X, or worse, PCI - implying that you can just ram it into an older slot and vice versa.

(While I'm at it, it's "Voila" - not "Viola", "Walla", or any of the other bastardizations. )

- M4H

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Matthias99
I'm actually sort of curious as to why you posted this now rather than, say, 12 months ago.

People, for the most part, seem to be actually using the correct abbreviation now. But hey, if it means less people calling it "PCI-X", I'm all for it.

Because, say, 12 months ago - it was in my sig, and several others. But people are still calling it PCI-X, or worse, PCI - implying that you can just ram it into an older slot and vice versa.

(While I'm at it, it's "Voila" - not "Viola", "Walla", or any of the other bastardizations. )

- M4H

this reminds me of the threasd where a user actually cut up a pci-e card to ram it into a pci slot.

 

[scottws]

PCI-E is a valid abbreviation too.

 

[Matt2]

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Matthias99
I'm actually sort of curious as to why you posted this now rather than, say, 12 months ago.

People, for the most part, seem to be actually using the correct abbreviation now. But hey, if it means less people calling it "PCI-X", I'm all for it.

Because, say, 12 months ago - it was in my sig, and several others. But people are still calling it PCI-X, or worse, PCI - implying that you can just ram it into an older slot and vice versa.

(While I'm at it, it's "Voila" - not "Viola", "Walla", or any of the other bastardizations. )

- M4H

this reminds me of the threasd where a user actually cut up a pci-e card to ram it into a pci slot.

Was that the guy who cut his 7800GTX to fit into an AGP slot?

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Matt2

Originally posted by: mwmorph

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: Matthias99
I'm actually sort of curious as to why you posted this now rather than, say, 12 months ago.

People, for the most part, seem to be actually using the correct abbreviation now. But hey, if it means less people calling it "PCI-X", I'm all for it.

Because, say, 12 months ago - it was in my sig, and several others. But people are still calling it PCI-X, or worse, PCI - implying that you can just ram it into an older slot and vice versa.

(While I'm at it, it's "Voila" - not "Viola", "Walla", or any of the other bastardizations. )

- M4H

this reminds me of the threasd where a user actually cut up a pci-e card to ram it into a pci slot.

Was that the guy who cut his 7800GTX to fit into an AGP slot?

i think it was a 6xxx series.

 

[scottws]

You sure this guy wasn't yanking your chain? I have a hard time believing anyone would do that. Even a stupid person.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: scottws
You sure this guy wasn't yanking your chain? I have a hard time believing anyone would do that. Even a stupid person.

No, it's true. The pics are floating around here somewhere.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon

Originally posted by: scottws
You sure this guy wasn't yanking your chain? I have a hard time believing anyone would do that. Even a stupid person.

No, it's true. The pics are floating around here somewhere.

it's debatable. some say it was photochopped, some say it was genuine.

 

[Peter]

It's Voilà. Not voila.

[/pedant]

 

[AzNPinkTuv]

links? i wanna see the tool who cut up an ultra to fit it into pci or agp... hahaha fing tool

 

[HybridSquirrel]

better than what my boss says, to him pci-e is pcx?!?! oh ftw at least its payday-

 

[scottws]

Haha, PCX, isn't that an old image format?

 

[HybridSquirrel]

lol who knows hes ****** crazy!

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
better than what my boss says, to him pci-e is pcx?!?! oh ftw at least its payday-

Isn't that what NVIDIA called their PCIe FX series cards? A PCX 5700 was a PCIe FX 5700... IMO PCX really wouldn't have been a bad marketing term for PCIe. PCI Express is confusing to a lot of people.

 

[Killrose]

PCI-e is for me as far as the definition. I'm still throttling an AGP card as personal usage goes however.

 

[HybridSquirrel]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: HybridSquirrel
better than what my boss says, to him pci-e is pcx?!?! oh ftw at least its payday-

Isn't that what NVIDIA called their PCIe FX series cards? A PCX 5700 was a PCIe FX 5700... IMO PCX really wouldn't have been a bad marketing term for PCIe. PCI Express is confusing to a lot of people.

the ones we have here at the store ar PCI-Express FX5700. labeled on the box

 

[Matt2]

They made PCIE FX cards? No crap...

 

[n7]

OFN...

 

[HybridSquirrel]

i believe they do, otherwise we have mislabeled merchandise?

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Bump

- M4H

 

[mindless1]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Bump

- M4H

Why?

You really need a new hobby if it's going to get you all worked up when people use the wrong computer terms. It happens millions of times a day and that won't change. Next week it'll be some other word, and another, and so on until the end of time. Consider a girlfriend-e upgrade to take your mind off this.

 

[chinkgai]

Originally posted by: mindless1

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Bump

- M4H

Why?

You really need a new hobby if it's going to get you all worked up when people use the wrong computer terms. It happens millions of times a day and that won't change. Next week it'll be some other word, and another, and so on until the end of time. Consider a girlfriend-e upgrade to take your mind off this.

wtfpwnt

PS2FTW!1!!

 

[peternelson]

NO, this is NOT a trivial issue.

There was PCI. Then there was an improved faster/longer/widertransfers version called PCI-X developed by the same group of people.

Now there is the next generation PCI Express, by the same group.

Unfortunately many lamer people in the computer business (who should know better) are abbreviating PCI Express as PCI-X or PCIX. That is SO wrong.

I have had to take to task a local dealer for this behaviour already. It just propagates confusion among consumers.

Also only boards like Asus workstation boards have both PCI-X and PCI-Express.

An acceptable abbreviation is PCI-E or PCIe but until it is universally used, "PCI Express" in full avoids the ambiguity.

This is an important issue.

eg when looking for PCI-X products I need to rely on the description being what it says it is.

However, I am more interested in PCI-E cards now.

For example LACIE make a nice raid storage product based on Silicon Image's Steelvine chip and architecture.

Nice and fast but unfortunately the bundled card with it is PCI-X like Silicon Image's bundle.

I don't want that because PCI-X will run very slowly in a congested plain PCI slot.

I want a PCI Express controller card for the Lacie system. So I would want them to unbundle the controller card, or offer a version of the esata raid card which is PCI EXPRESS. Silicon Image don't yet do such a card, but they just launched a new PCI-Express to ESATA capable chip so I expect they will integrate them on their board pretty quickly.

Imagine how hard it would have been to discuss the above if you misunderstood the terms or the description was incorrect.

There is enough terminology in this industry like "ESATA" without people MISUSING abbreviations.

Let's get it right, because it's important!

Ditto using the term "SATA 2 or II" which does NOT mean the 300 version of serial ATA. Don't use them synonymously. Sata 2 drives may run at 150 and with or without NCQ and other features. The worst is cables described as "external SATA" when they clearly are not. There is a spec for that and it's called ESATA. The connector does NOT have an L shaped bit in the middle of the connector. Besides SATA taken externally does not have enough noise immunity or distance, that is why the correct and ONLY "external SATA" is ESATA which uses higher voltage signalling. The SATA organisation website clarifies both these points.