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davmat787

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I'm not sure, it just seems (to some people NOT ME) that it's loud obnoxious and a little bit stupid. I think it's something about us being a little bit snobby and when an American comes over and calls an Aeroplane an "Airplane" a lot of people roll their eyes.

Not the first time I have seen you use this aeroplane vs. airplane comparison. Have you been to www.[B]AIR[/B]bus.com? AIRbus is an European consortium as you might be aware of.

Give it up HAL, different countries have different pronunciations and terms for various objects. If people in the UK roll their eyes as you say when someone has the fucking balls and audacity to say airplane, then that just screams of douchebaggery. Of course, in those cases, they would probably roll their eyes regardless. Snobbery as you say.

Do you think people would roll their eyes at you asking for a biscuit here?

Ironically, if you go to www.aerobus.com, it is the website for....... an American company!!! Holy shit HAL! :)
 
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HAL9000

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Not the first time I have seen you use this aeroplane vs. airplane comparison. Have you been to www.[B]AIR[/B]bus.com? AIRbus is an European consortium as you might be aware of.

I am aware of it.

Give it up HAL, different countries have different pronunciations and terms for various objects.

THat they do, I'm fine with that, as I've said you guys speak American we speak English, two different dialects, I've got no problem with that.

If people in the UK roll their eyes as you say when someone has the fucking balls and audacity to say airplane,

You think it's brave to say "Airplane"...? Now I'm rolling my eyes.

then that just screams of douchebaggery. Of course, in those cases, they would probably roll their eyes regardless. Snobbery as you say.

Agreed, it is snobbish.

Do you think people would roll their eyes at you asking for a biscuit here?

1) I wouldn't ask for a biscuit on a forum
2) If people did roll their eyes, I'd be fine with that, it has no baring on my life.
 
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I'm not sure, it just seems (to some people NOT ME) that it's loud obnoxious and a little bit stupid. I think it's something about us being a little bit snobby and when an American comes over and calls an Aeroplane an "Airplane" a lot of people roll their eyes.

then i guess you guys can't stand american tv and flims.
 
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Aikouka

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I've been to the US, everyone there was > 200 lbs. That's not what I would call a beautiful people.

You shouldn't be hangin' out at the buffets! :colbert:

1) I wouldn't ask for a biscuit on a forum

That would be perfect... if he was talking about on the forums! :p Given it stemmed from talking about saying "airplane" while in England, one would assume "here" in a statement about using the term "biscuit" for cookie would mean in the United States.

Of course, no one will look at you strangely... but you better accept your...

http://www.thefreshloaf.com/files/u22175/biscuits.jpg

and maybe making it into...

http://www.mamas-southern-cooking.com/images/biscuits-and-gravy-07.jpg
 

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You shouldn't be hangin' out at the buffets! :colbert:



That would be perfect... if he was talking about on the forums! :p Given it stemmed from talking about saying "airplane" while in England, one would assume "here" in a statement about using the term "biscuit" for cookie would mean in the United States.

Ahh, that makes more sense, well when I was in America I forced my self to say "cookie" and to say I owned a "cell phone" and drove a "stick"...
 

JujuFish

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THat they do, I'm fine with that, as I've said you guys speak American we speak English, two different dialects, I've got no problem with that.
English is not a dialect, it is a language. Everyone here speaks it.
 

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You're trying to argue by saying the same thing I said? Do you know what argue means?

I do know what it means, I'm saying you and I are speaking different dialects of English, I'm speaking just plain English and you are speaking American English, that is all, you seemed to be arguing that we are speaking exactly the same thing, we are not.
 

davmat787

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Ahh, that makes more sense, well when I was in America I forced my self to say "cookie" and to say I owned a "cell phone" and drove a "stick"...

I recall a comment you made awhile back, to the effect that you thought it was odd that different countries have different names for the same thing. The biscuit/cookie example was used then as well.

I was thinking about that, and wonder if that stems from the fact that the global reach of the internet has just always been there for you, due to your age. I was in college with my kickass 14.4k modem using the text based internet. No websites yet.

My point being that at that time, bullshitting such as we do, with people from around the globe was not common place by any means. If you look into Etymology, you would no longer be surprised by the fact that different countries have different terms for the same object.

Cheers.

PS: you knew damn well by 'here' I meant the US, not this forum you knucklehead. :D
 

JujuFish

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I do know what it means, I'm saying you and I are speaking different dialects of English, I'm speaking just plain English and you are speaking American English, that is all, you seemed to be arguing that we are speaking exactly the same thing, we are not.
I stated that we are speaking the same language. You are trying to compare English, the generic term for the language, to American English. You should be comparing British English, which is what you speak, to American English.
 

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I recall a comment you made awhile back, to the effect that you thought it was odd that different countries have different names for the same thing. The biscuit/cookie example was used then as well.

I do find it odd, but I don't think one is right and one is wrong, just different, it's the difference that I find interesting / confusing.

I was thinking about that, and wonder if that stems from the fact that the global reach of the internet has just always been there for you, due to your age. I was in college with my kickass 14.4k modem using the text based internet. No websites yet.

Entirely possible, that being said I didn't become truly aware of these differences until I went to America or joined this forum.

My point being that at that time, bullshitting such as we do, with people from around the globe was not common place by any means. If you look into Etymology, you would no longer be surprised by the fact that different countries have different terms for the same object.

Cheers.

PS: you knew damn well by 'here' I meant the US, not this forum you knucklehead. :D

:( I didn't know!
 

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I stated that we are speaking the same language. You are trying to compare English, the generic term for the language to American English. You should be comparing British English, which is what you speak, to American English.

I see it this way:

English (Language)
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American (Dialect) - Australian (Dialect)

As an example, and I'm speaking the top one, you are speaking the one below it, a dialect of English. I don't get the problem..? Neither is better or worse they are just difference.

Also there isn't a "British English" because how English is spoken in Scotland and how it is spoken in England is often very different.
 

JujuFish

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I see it this way:

English (Language)
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American (Dialect) - Australian (Dialect)

As an example, and I'm speaking the top one, you are speaking the one below it, a dialect of English. I don't get the problem..? Neither is better or worse they are just difference.

Also there isn't a "British English" because how English is spoken in Scotland and how it is spoken in England is often very different.
You speak British English, whether you want to admit to it or not.
Merriam-Webster
the native language of most inhabitants of England; especially : English characteristic of England and clearly distinguishable from that used elsewhere (as in the United States or Australia)

OED
the English language as spoken or written in Britain, as contrasted with those forms used in the United States or other English-speaking countries; abbreviated BE, BrE.
 

HAL9000

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You speak British English, whether you want to admit to it or not.

I'm English, I speak English, I live in England, what an American dictionary says about that won't change anything. There is no British English.
 

JujuFish

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I'm English, I speak English, I live in England, what an American dictionary says about that won't change anything. There is no British English.
I never knew the Oxford English Dictionary was an American dictionary. Imagine that.
 

JujuFish

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I didn't spot that one, the link doesn't work
It works for me. Go to their website yourself and search for "British English". Either way, they recognize the term, so it doesn't matter whether you want to close your eyes and cover your ears in a vain attempt to ignore it.
 

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It works for me. Go to their website yourself and search for "British English". Either way, they recognize the term, so it doesn't matter whether you want to close your eyes and cover your ears in a vain attempt to ignore it.

Why would they? It makes no sense, it's like saying that the french they speak in france is "European French" as opposed to "Canadian French".

French in France is French
English in England is English.
 

JujuFish

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Why would they? It makes no sense, it's like saying that the french they speak in france is "European French" as opposed to "Canadian French".

French in France is French
English in England is English.
It makes perfect sense. English (regarding the language) is the generic term. It is one of the most spoken language in the world.

British English and American English each more explicitly define which "English" one to which one is referring.
 

HAL9000

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It makes perfect sense. English (regarding the language) is the generic term. It is the third most spoken language in the world.

Really? Because English seems a pretty specific term relating to the English, from England.

British English and American English each more explicitly define which "English" one to which one is referring.

American certainly does, but English seems pretty exact to me.
 

JujuFish

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Really? Because English seems a pretty specific term relating to the English, from England.



American certainly does, but English seems pretty exact to me.
You're confusing homonyms. It's OK, you're only British.
 

HAL9000

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You're confusing homonyms. It's OK, you're only British.

German is spoken by the Germans
French is spoken by the French
Spanish is spoken by the Spanish
English is spoken by the English

The facts that these languages are spoken in other places doesn't make the terms generic, It's OK if your confused you speak American.