PSA - Stop using Brits for commercials in U.S.

[davmat787]

Really? Because English seems a pretty specific term relating to the English, from England.

Ahhh, I see the issue now. It is a source of pride that other colonies, oops, I mean countries, around the world speak YOUR language. And the problem is that we don't do it correctly or up to your countries standards.

On another note, anyone know where and why the phrase "F*ck the Queen's English!" came about? I've only heard it from Londoners, just curious. Is it a rebellion thing or something else?

 

[JujuFish]

German is spoken by the Germans
French is spoken by the French
Spanish is spoken by the Spanish
English is spoken by the English

The facts that these languages are spoken in other places doesn't make the terms generic, It's OK if your confused you speak American.

Poor Brit, can't even understand what's laid before him and supported by the main dictionary of his mother country. We forgive you.

 

[davmat787]

German is spoken by the Germans
French is spoken by the French
Spanish is spoken by the Spanish
English is spoken by the English

The facts that these languages are spoken in other places doesn't make the terms generic, It's OK if your confused you speak American.

So do the Mexican's speak Mexican?

 

[HAL9000]

Ahhh, I see the issue now. It is a source of pride that other colonies, oops, I mean countries, around the world speak YOUR language. And the problem is that we don't do it correctly or up to your countries standards.

I didn't say that.

On another note, anyone know where and why the phrase "F*ck the Queen's English!" came about? I've only heard it from Londoners, just curious. Is it a rebellion thing or something else?

I've never heard the phrase before, but I know what the Queen's English referring to if that helps...

Poor Brit, can't even understand what's laid before him and supported by the main dictionary of his mother country. We forgive you.

No argument? OK

 

[davmat787]

It makes perfect sense. English (regarding the language) is the generic term. It is one of the most spoken language in the world.

British English and American English each more explicitly define which "English" one to which one is referring.

Yea, HAL is only looking at this issue through a myopic England only lens.

 

[HAL9000]

Yea, HAL is only looking at this issue through a myopic England only lens.

I'm looking at it as an English person obviously.

 

[JujuFish]

No argument? OK

I've already laid out my argument, supported by both American and British dictionaries. You've not been able to refute it. Instead, you're just adding to your post count total, so that's what I did.

 

[HAL9000]

I've already laid out my argument, supported by both American and British dictionaries. You've not been able to refute it. Instead, you're just adding to your post count total, so that's what I did.

I've comprehensively refuted it, read above.

 

[JujuFish]

I've comprehensively refuted it, read above.

HAL9000: It's not true because I said so!

HAL9000: "I've comprehensively refuted it, read above."

Sorry, you haven't refuted anything.

 

[HAL9000]

HAL9000: It's not true because I said so!

HAL9000: "I've comprehensively refuted it, read above."

Sorry, you haven't refuted anything.

..

German is spoken by the Germans
French is spoken by the French
Spanish is spoken by the Spanish
English is spoken by the English

The facts that these languages are spoken in other places doesn't make the terms generic, It's OK if your confused you speak American.

 

[JujuFish]

..

That's all irrelevant and thus doesn't contradict anything I've written. You should just come out and say you have an inferiority complex regarding the USA. It's OK to admit.

 

[HAL9000]

That's all irrelevant and thus doesn't contradict anything I've written. You should just come out and say you have an inferiority complex regarding the USA. It's OK to admit.

OK then allow me to rephrase, it is a fact that dictionaries acknowledge the phrase "British English" that much is obvious, what is not obvious is the notion English is a term to generic to be applied as the language spoken in England, by the English.

 

[JujuFish]

OK then allow me to rephrase, it is a fact that dictionaries acknowledge the phrase "British English" that much is obvious, what is not obvious is the notion English is a term to generic to be applied as the language spoken in England, by the English.

I've not said that English can't be used to refer to the language spoken in England, rather that it can't be used to refer exclusively to the language as spoken by people from England. You do speak English. I speak English. I said as much in my first post in this thread.

And with that, I'm going to lunch.

 

[HAL9000]

I've not said that English can't be used to refer to the language spoken in England, rather that it can't be used to refer exclusively to the language as spoken by people from England. You do speak English. I speak English. I said as much in my first post in this thread.

And with that, I'm going to lunch.

You don't speak just English, you speak a dialect of English: American English, and with that we've come full circle. Bye

 

[PimpJuice]

You don't speak just English, you speak a dialect of English: American English, and with that we've come full circle. Bye

We speak English, and you speak British English. We claimed we wanted from your shitty country. If you want to brag about something we don't have, then you can start a topic about terrible dental hygiene.

 

[Demo24]

You don't speak just English, you speak a dialect of English: American English, and with that we've come full circle. Bye

And you don't just speak 'english', there's like 10 different dialects in the UK

 

[WelshBloke]

http://www.mamas-southern-cooking.com/images/biscuits-and-gravy-07.jpg

Good Lord!

Some rum cove appears to have vomited on your scones!

You should send the dogs after the cad. then give him a damn good horsewhipping.

*adjusts monacle and stalks off to molest the serving wenches *

 

[Fayd]

I'm English, I speak English, I live in England, what an American dictionary says about that won't change anything. There is no British English.

pretty sure oxford english dictionary isn't american

 

[HAL9000]

And you don't just speak 'english', there's like 10 different dialects in the UK

Some would argue that just English refers to the Queen's English.

pretty sure oxford english dictionary isn't american

It's not! We went through that a couple of hours ago

 

[Stuxnet]

The Cisco chick is particularly annoying... like she's in the middle of a big 'O' when saying 'The Human Network.'

 

[Scotteq]

You don't speak just English, you speak a dialect of English: American English, and with that we've come full circle. Bye

Some would argue that just English refers to the Queen's English.



It's not! We went through that a couple of hours ago

Stupid argument, since even the English don't just speak "English". Here's a list of dialects in England:


Great Britain (British English)


**Northern - In the far north, local speech is noticeably more like the Scots dialect of the Borders region in nature[citation needed]

Cheshire
Cumbrian (Cumbria including Barrow-in-Furness)
Geordie (Tyneside)
Lancastrian (Lancashire)
Mackem (Sunderland)
Mancunian-Salfordian (Manchester & Salford)
Northumbrian (rural Northumberland)
Pitmatic (Durham and Northumberland)
Scouse (Liverpool)
Yorkshire (also known as Broad Yorkshire) The dialect of South Yorkshire is more like a Midland dialect, whereas those of North and West Yorkshire are Northern


**East Midlands

**West Midlands

Black Country English
Brummie (Birmingham)
Potteries (north Staffordshire)
Telford accent

**Southern

Received Pronunciation (also known as Queen's English (or King's English) or BBC English)

Cockney (East End of London)
East Anglian (Norfolk/Broad Norfolk, Suffolk and North Essex)
Estuary (Thames Estuary)
Kentish (Kent)
Multicultural London English (Inner London)
Sussex


**West Country

Anglo-Cornish
Bristolian dialect


***WHich doesn't count
Scotland
Scottish English
Highland English

Wales
Welsh English
Cardiff

Northern Ireland

Mid Ulster English
Belfast
Derry
Ulster Scots
South Ulster English


Ireland
Hiberno-English
Dublin
Cork
Kerry and Cork County
Connacht
Sligo Town
Galway City
Rural Munster (Tipperary, Limerick County, Clare, Waterford)
Limerick City
North Leinster (Louth and Meath)
South Leinster (Kilkenny, Laois, Longford, Offaly, Westmeath, Wexford, Wicklow)


Isle of Man
Manx English

Channel Islands
Guernsey English
Jersey English

 

[HAL9000]

Stupid argument, since even the English don't just speak "English". Here's a list of dialects in England:


Great Britain (British English)


**Northern - In the far north, local speech is noticeably more like the Scots dialect of the Borders region in nature[citation needed]

Cheshire
Cumbrian (Cumbria including Barrow-in-Furness)
Geordie (Tyneside)
Lancastrian (Lancashire)
Mackem (Sunderland)
Mancunian-Salfordian (Manchester & Salford)
Northumbrian (rural Northumberland)
Pitmatic (Durham and Northumberland)
Scouse (Liverpool)
Yorkshire (also known as Broad Yorkshire) The dialect of South Yorkshire is more like a Midland dialect, whereas those of North and West Yorkshire are Northern


**East Midlands

**West Midlands

Black Country English
Brummie (Birmingham)
Potteries (north Staffordshire)
Telford accent

**Southern

Received Pronunciation (also known as Queen's English (or King's English) or BBC English)

Cockney (East End of London)
East Anglian (Norfolk/Broad Norfolk, Suffolk and North Essex)
Estuary (Thames Estuary)
Kentish (Kent)
Multicultural London English (Inner London)
Sussex


**West Country

Anglo-Cornish
Bristolian dialect


***WHich doesn't count
Scotland
Scottish English
Highland English

Wales
Welsh English
Cardiff

Northern Ireland

Mid Ulster English
Belfast
Derry
Ulster Scots
South Ulster English


Ireland
Hiberno-English
Dublin
Cork
Kerry and Cork County
Connacht
Sligo Town
Galway City
Rural Munster (Tipperary, Limerick County, Clare, Waterford)
Limerick City
North Leinster (Louth and Meath)
South Leinster (Kilkenny, Laois, Longford, Offaly, Westmeath, Wexford, Wicklow)


Isle of Man
Manx English

Channel Islands
Guernsey English
Jersey English

1) The vast majority of those aren't dialects they are accents
2) It highlights the fact that the phrase "British English" is meaningless.
3) On third reading a hell of a lot of those are just names of places. E.g. "Cardiff"

 

[Scotteq]

1) The vast majority of those aren't dialects they are accents
2) It highlights the fact that the phrase "British English" is meaningless.

Yes - Every bit as meaningless as "American", or "Australasian" or whatever other distinctions you may feel like making. Hence my comment that your argument is stupid.

Since - As you well know - English itself is a bastardized language in the first place, derived from German, French, and Scandinavian sources in addition to the native Welsh, Cornish, etc...

 

[HAL9000]

Yes - Every bit as meaningless as "American", or "Australasian" or whatever other distinctions you may feel like making. Hence my comment that your argument is stupid.

American is a different dialect as we keep seeing on here, the fact that so many words mean completely different things or we have different words all together.

Since - As you well know - English itself is a bastardized language in the first place, derived from German, French, and Scandinavian sources in addition to the native Welsh, Cornish, etc...

True.

 

[spacejamz]

If somoene can just kill the Geico lizard so I don't have hear/see those commercials every 10 minutes, I would be happy...

guess the term 'over-saturation' has never registered with them...