PSA - Sony acquires Robotech screen rights, plans a movie franchise

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technically southern cross was part of the super dimension series.
super dimension fortress macross
super dimension century orguss
super dimension calvary southern cross

they were supposed to be part of the same universe. genesis climber mospeada was a separate series but like sdfm also a tatsunoko production.

Thanks for the correction, but as time went on they continued the Macross story lines much more. So it turned out that the three you mentioned are like different stories under a common title... almost like Tales from the Crypt movies.

They also dropped the Super Dimension Fortress part from the names of the sequels while keeping the SDF line of spacecraft in the show.

point taken though

They also like to go on about how the original plot was a bit of master genius or something.

No I just like the "in the wake of proof of Alien life (who are as warlike as humans as evidence by the military nature of the crashed space craft) major Nations attempt to make the U.N. a global government while other Nations rebel and a war ensues" far better than "Alien space crashes and everyone sings Kumbaya for 10 years until Aliens come looking for their ship"

The former option gives us Macross Zero which is quite an awesome 4 part series itself despite some weirdness toward the end.

There's no genius story telling just pretty good Space Opera bolstered by superb (hell at this point legendary in anime fandom isn't too far off) mecha designs, compelling character designs, and good J-Pop if you're in to that kind of music.


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[Sonikku]

For all the Macross and Robotech spinoffs, do they even reveal what happened to rick/lisa's fate or do they inevitably end up as "unknown"?

 

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I would love ot see a redo of the series using today's animation. I just loved the concept that Robotech had.

look up Macross Frontier... maybe since the Macross rights issue seems to be resolved Sony might release the subsequently produced series besides Macross Plus officially in the U.S. As of now you'll have to find another way to watch them.

It's the 25th anniversary Macross release about 2008-9 ish....

As mentioned before it has scenes specifically crafted to callback to "famous" moments the original series and the animation is more advanced than the 1980s

for example the first episode has a redo of the Hikaru carrying Minmei in the hand of a VF in "Guardian Mode"


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For all the Macross and Robotech spinoffs, do they even reveal what happened to rick/lisa's fate or do they inevitably end up as "unknown"?

It will be always unknown afaik. As I understand it, the voice actor for Hikaru Ichijo/Rick Hunter committed suicide and the Producer decided they will leave that storyline untouched because they are unwilling to recast the role.


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[gorobei]

For all the Macross and Robotech spinoffs, do they even reveal what happened to rick/lisa's fate or do they inevitably end up as "unknown"?

macross 2012 flashback ova, sort of continues from DYRL as a sort of farewell concert with plot montages. hikaru misa and minmei all head off to deep space in megarodo1/sdf2. ship vanishes and isnt heard from in any of the following series (plus,7,frontier).

the harmony gold robotech sequels had them appear again i think (never watched them, never will).

 

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The Robotech Rick Hunter voice actor is still alive -- the Macross voice actor for Hikaru Ichijyo did commit suicide however. Though they did get a new voice artist to do his for a game, it appears.

In the original Robotech mashup (which was basically because they needed enough episodes to get some network commitments), they have gone off into deep space, but are always 'out there'. Not sure about any followup movies, since afaik the ones produced in the 80/90s were pretty bad and I never saw them, and not sure if they have done anything recently.

I don't feel the need to hate the original Japanese series, hopefully someday I can get around to obtaining them all and watching them. I enjoyed (and still do) the original Robotech version. It had a story leaps and bounds ahead of most cartoons available at the time. Crazy, shifting love triangles, bi-racial (heck, bi-species) romances, death of leading and secondary characters, a timeline spanning generations, and then of course, giant transforming space F-14's and motorcyle's you could wear, and a kickass soundtrack.

Also, I forgot to add something earlier in the thread:
Miriya and Rook, and maybe even Ariel are on my cartoon shag list also. (And only two of em are aliens!)
(Fine, Nova, you can hop into bed as well)

 

[Gunbuster]

In the reboot the SDF-1 is powered by Sony's PlayStation Network. The Zentradi hack in, steal everyone's data, disable all military systems for nearly a month, and then take the ship back.

 

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In the reboot the SDF-1 is powered by Sony's PlayStation Network. The Zentradi hack in, steal everyone's data, disable all military systems for nearly a month, and then take the ship back.

No no no...

Earth's defense fleet is modernized and networked. A lone Admiral, on his last assignment on what appears to be a relic or museum ship, keeps computers offline and mandates all phones appear to be from 70s military surplus stock.

This is the story of how Galac- err, the SDF-1 fights against all odds on a mission for humanity's survival.

 

[EliteRetard]

No no no...

Earth's defense fleet is modernized and networked. A lone Admiral, on his last assignment on what appears to be a relic or museum ship, keeps computers offline and mandates all phones appear to be from 70s military surplus stock.

This is the story of how Galac- err, the SDF-1 fights against all odds on a mission for humanity's survival.

And pretty much ends up failing lol.

Earth does get vaporized, always loved that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmkgCi5BO70

 

[lupi]

Any buy the (relatively) new mini game?

 

[Sonikku]

And pretty much ends up failing lol.

Earth does get vaporized, always loved that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmkgCi5BO70

I always found it ironic that the 70,000 people on board were constantly at risk and the ones constantly hounded on the trip back to Earth, at which point Earth sent the ship away to serve as a distraction to "protect" everyone else, only for everyone else to get blown away and for the original 70,000 to be the sole survivors of mankind. Whew.

Edit: and on a side note, what other 80's cartoon show were kids watching where Earth is wiped out and it's 7 billion (ok maybe 3 billion on account of unification wars) human population were brutally massacred? You can hardly believe they got this on American television.

 

[lupi]

Remember getting up early enough to watch it. Think it ran at like 530 or 630.

 

[EliteRetard]

I always found it ironic that the 70,000 people on board were constantly at risk and the ones constantly hounded on the trip back to Earth, at which point Earth sent the ship away to serve as a distraction to "protect" everyone else, only for everyone else to get blown away and for the original 70,000 to be the sole survivors of mankind. Whew.

Edit: and on a side note, what other 80's cartoon show were kids watching where Earth is wiped out and it's 7 billion (ok maybe 3 billion on account of unification wars) human population were brutally massacred? You can hardly believe they got this on American television.

I can't name any other show at all where the "good guys lose", not like that. Sure I've seen some main characters die in other shows/movies. For me that part was some serious icing on the cake. I almost wish it ended there, the valiant fight for the survival of mankind, ended by their own stupidity, vanity, and hate for their own kind.

Unfortunately there were just enough humans and hot aliens left to get jiggy with each other and start it all up again.

 

[Svnla]

Is this like Pacific Rim stuff? If so, no interest.

KT

Nope. A LOT better.

A little bit about Robotech (with musical score) = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dduwy5we7dM

Remember getting up early enough to watch it. Think it ran at like 530 or 630.

Yup I sure did. I woke up at 6 a.m. on weekdays during the summer to watch it.

 

[Iron Woode]

Remember getting up early enough to watch it. Think it ran at like 530 or 630.

It was on in the afternoon here, between 3:00 and 5:00 PM

 

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A little bit about Robotech (with musical score) = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dduwy5we7dM

That footage is from a Japanese Pachinko game... sort of like a Western slot machine in casinos....


As illustrated below in video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WwSuoSL_HI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqhUKBuZBmk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_ICmYMI6nw


one made for the more Recent Macross Frontier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxApIo5J7Gk


someone mentioned that they wanted to see Macross with modern animation...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0OuMdQHX-U

^footage from Macross Frontier the latest series made in Japan I am aware of used in an AMV sort of gives you another idea of what it'd look like.


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[Svnla]

That footage is from a Japanese Pachinko game... sort of like a Western slot machine in casinos....


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Pachinko? Huh? THe first 1:35 is the Robotech I remember as a kid.

 

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Pachinko? Huh? THe first 1:35 is the Robotech I remember as a kid.

The first 1:35 is a direct HD redo for used for Macross Pachinko Machines...

Here is the one from the original Macross before Harmony Gold obtained the U.S. release rights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjkXzHzUIGA

Some of the links I provided shows a Pachinko machine playing some of the new footage that appears in the video you linked in post #64



*e2a*

Turns out the new footage was also edited and released as a bonus to a DVD recent rerelease.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-01-05/1st-macross-series-gets-bd-box-with-pachinko-footage

The "Complete Edition" will add a bonus extras disc wih about 100 minutes of footage: a music video collection (edited from pachinko and pachi-slo machine footage), the 30th anniversary special that ran on the Family Gekijō channel, promotional videos from the Macross PlayStation 2 game,

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Here is some footage in AMV for from the prequel Macross Zero the variable fighters that the U.N. used against the Anti-Unification were VF-0s which had conventional engines that were pushed as close to the breaking point without blowing them up because the intended fusion power-plant/engines weren't quite ready.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3neUoFS2XIs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGDybGQcDIc

The first series that afaik used computer animation for the mecha sequences.




The latest series that I know of Macross Frontier has few scenes which are direct callbacks to specific scenes in Macross for example when Hikaru Ichijo/Rick Hunter carries Minmei in the hand of a Gerwalk/Guardian mode VF... that's updated in the first episode of Macross Frontier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzV8W7kdFB0&t=0m34s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5wvb0OjI3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0OuMdQHX-U

Shoji Kawamori also did most of the main mecha designs for all of the Macross Series except for Macross II which was the first direct sequel (although produced by another studio as I recall) and considered not very good (it has since been designated as taking place in an alternative universe).

The first official sequel to Macross and the movie Macross: DYRL was
Macross Plus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZFn96KWYBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nMXj0oEaY0
The story line is that two high school friends become rivals in a prototype competition to determine which the new variable fighter to be deployed. Complicating the situation is the arrival of a mutual friend whom they both had feeling for.
For some reason Isamu steals the fighter he is piloting for the prototype test and takes it to Earth and Guld is sent to stop him.


Macross: DYRL is considered to be movie dramatization of the events of Macross produced within the Macross storyline


As stated in a previous post anyone who wishes to see the concepts and ideas if not the original story line of Macross animated with more modern techniques it can be found.


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[JEDI]

from what I remember as a kid:

Robotech I: airplane mechs/Minmei
Robotech II: Southern Cross/motocycle mechs
Robotech III: Invalid invasion (I think). Southern Cross got crushed b4 the events of Episode 1.
- don't remember what mechs they used?

 

[lupi]

In the show it was mostly the cycle armor as they could run it on gas to not attract invid. They also had most of the advanced equipment used by southern cross in the invasion forces but very little survived to be used on earth (and doing so attracted a quick execution squad).

 

[DigDog]

weird foreigners cannot type Macross properly

 

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/ollieba...n-in-talks-to-direct-upcoming-robotech-movie/

The director of the recent and very successful Furious 7 is apparently in talks to helm the upcoming live action movie adaptation of Robotech.

In an actually interesting move, Sony Pictures seem to have a semblance of a clue by talking with James Wan. He has not only an interesting backlog of varied and engaging films, from Saw to Insidious and The Conjuring, but can also handle high-octane action with movies like Furious 7.

For anyone that knows Macross, of which Robotech is ostensibly an English localized version, then you’ll know that high octane action coupled with nuanced characterization is very much the cornerstone of what made it work.

So I am genuinely curious to see how Wan might handle the Ichiro Itano styled dogfights between the transforming variable fighters and their giant alien antagonists as well as the human narrative that underpins all of that.

That said there is still one major elephant in the room amongst all this; the absence of Shoji Kawamori’s involvement is worrying.

Both the creator and the main mecha designer behind Macross, Kawamori’s designs and storytelling were instrumental in the success of the original show. His variable fighter designs alone (shown above) are hugely iconic and arguably one of the major reasons behind Robotech’s enduring popularity amongst its fans.

While I can sympathize with people who are wary of George Lucas-esque creative figures, especially after the appalling Star Wars prequels, Kawamori is not at all like that. As he has been making numerous and thoroughly excellent Macross series (among many other things) since the 80s original.

The latest of these being the hugely engaging Macross Frontier that not only saw a fantastically paced TV series but also some pretty great movies too.

Put simply, Kawamori needs to be working on this new Robotech movie. Without him and his mecha design expertise, they’ll lose the core of what made this franchise popular in the first place.

In any case, the news of Wan potentially being on-board with this movie offers a glimmer of hope that Sony Pictures might not completely screw this up.

Based on the style and success of the recent Furious 7 movie Mr. Wan seems to be a good choice to helm this project. However, the article author is correct imo in suggesting that the people behind this project should try to get Shoji Kawamori involved in the project. At least as a consultant on the mecha designs.

https://vimeo.com/53909880

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[Fayd]

Pardon the crappy spelling. Not my jpg

You use it, you take responsibility for it.

 

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