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PSA - Seasonic has announced $5-20 price increase in US starting Dec

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DaveSimmons

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/13567/seasonic-increases-msrps-of-psus-in-the-us

Thinking about getting a new Seasonic (love my Titanium 650 watt)? Save a little cash by buying now instead of in December.

Also from the AnandTech link above, other brands too:

"One other thing to keep in mind about Seasonic is that it also produces PSUs for numerous brands, including Corsair, NZXT, XFX, and a number of others. So don't be surprised if the company's downstream customers follow suit, as they're going to be impacted by the same tariff increases."
 
Luckily I'm not in the market for a new PSU at the moment; all of my current units are doing quite well.

This likely isn't going to affect just power supply prices in the end either; this is just the start.
 
Thanks for the head up. I'm hoping for a sale blackfriday/cybermonday period. My biggest gripe is that I can't find a model with 9+ sata connectors that is only 550 or 650 watts. My machine has 9 drives but no gpu (using processor gpu); so I don't really need one of those larger models.

DaveSimmons said:
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13567/seasonic-increases-msrps-of-psus-in-the-us

Thinking about getting a new Seasonic (love my Titanium 650 watt)? Save a little cash by buying now instead of in December.

Also from the AnandTech link above, other brands too:

"One other thing to keep in mind about Seasonic is that it also produces PSUs for numerous brands, including Corsair, NZXT, XFX, and a number of others. So don't be surprised if the company's downstream customers follow suit, as they're going to be impacted by the same tariff increases."
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EXCellR8 said:
Luckily I'm not in the market for a new PSU at the moment; all of my current units are doing quite well.

This likely isn't going to affect just power supply prices in the end either; this is just the start.
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Yep. You're absolutely correct. If you look at the list of what is impacted by tariffs, it's literally EVERYTHING needed to build a computer.

Seasonic can announce what they're planning to do early on because they're in a unique position:

They're an OEM, ODM and a retail brand and they're a publicly traded company. They can enjoy a higher profit margin than other PSU companies, but when their current inventory runs dry, I seriously doubt they want to tell their share holders "we're going to take a hit in out profits in the U.S. because the tariffs are really high."

AFAIK, everyone will have to do the same price hikes.... but for now, most are taking a "wait and see" approach. Most of what's in the channel today was in warehouses prior to the 10% tariff. Then there's the "is the 25% really going to pass or will congress block it or will China negotiate with Trump?" Too many variables in play.
 
Eff tariffs. Good thing that I've got Seasonics in my main rig, HTPC and home server. They almost always last as long as their warranty. I got an Antec in the missus machine. I have some backups as well in case I need a makeshift power supply.
 
To be honest I prefer the old seasonic cables to the new ones. While the new ones are flatter (a plus) they don't fit as well and are usually stiff and a pia. The old ones while bulkier had a lot of plus. Also bit disappointed that the 550 and 650 psu have so few sata connectors - i have an older 450 watt psu with 8 sata connectors.
 
you2 said:
To be honest I prefer the old seasonic cables to the new ones. While the new ones are flatter (a plus) they don't fit as well and are usually stiff and a pia. The old ones while bulkier had a lot of plus. Also bit disappointed that the 550 and 650 psu have so few sata connectors - i have an older 450 watt psu with 8 sata connectors.
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They're pretty stingy on their PCIe cables as well compared to their competitor's offerings. My 550w unit came with one cable (2 x 6+2 pin), and my 750w unit came with two cables (4 x 6+2 pin). Models like the EVGA G3 come with one more in their competing models.

But Seasonic makes a darn good, reliable PSU.
 
UsandThem said:
But Seasonic makes a darn good, reliable PSU.
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I'm not too sure about that anymore. The last two Seasonics I bought, the first failed in less than a year, although the replacement has been running OK. The 650 Focus I bought to replace it was DOA, so for now I'm still using the old one, and looking at other options.

And an FYI for anyone that uses their RMA service, they tell you to return the unit int he original box, with no accessories, They then send the reburb unit in a padded UPS envelope with no protection at all. Not impressed, mine has a small dent in it.

And I agree with the other poster, I don't like the flat ribbon cables. they look cheap.
 
That doesn't sound good. The only psu i ever RMA was an antec because the fan failed after 2 years. They replaced it with a brand new psu (same model) in a sealed box.

WilliamM2 said:
I'm not too sure about that anymore. The last two Seasonics I bought, the first failed in less than a year, although the replacement has been running OK. The 650 Focus I bought to replace it was DOA, so for now I'm still using the old one, and looking at other options.

And an FYI for anyone that uses their RMA service, they tell you to return the unit int he original box, with no accessories, They then send the reburb unit in a padded UPS envelope with no protection at all. Not impressed, mine has a small dent in it.

And I agree with the other poster, I don't like the flat ribbon cables. they look cheap.
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DOAs and rapid failures will always exist regardless of companies. That's a risk every new PSU carries that a used 2-year PSU does not. It's just that Seasonic is more consistent in avoiding failure by making sure the soldering is good.
 
Torn Mind said:
DOAs and rapid failures will always exist regardless of companies. That's a risk every new PSU carries that a used 2-year PSU does not. It's just that Seasonic is more consistent in avoiding failure by making sure the soldering is good.
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I wish that was always the case, but: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=524

Fact of the matter is, Seasonic has their PCBA's built by contractors so QC can be hit or miss since you can't supervise the entire process. Factories that do most of the work in house can have better QC across the board.

Where Seasonic does win is good engineering. But I don't always give them a pass on build quality.
 
I've yet to have a Sonic unit fail, but my track record with power supplies is actually quite good anyway. Heck, I was still using an Andyson 1000W up until a year or so ago... a PSU that is now 10 years old. It may just be luck or the fact that I don't have any of my machines on 24/7, I don't know. I accidentally damaged one of my Seasonic X-series power supplies but that's not the fault of the unit, obviously.

Right now, I'm running a 850 focus, X-750, X-650 and the X-850 (the one that I damaged) still works too. I've got a couple of Corsair and EVGA units going as well but I'm not sure of the OEM on those. Crossing my fingers that they all hold up for as long as I use the systems.
 
Hum. The hx750 is $90 (has 12 sata connectors) and the seasonic focus 550 platinum is $70 but the seasonic would require another sata cable so $80. Hum.... don't really need 750 watt psu but ....
 
you2 said:
Hum. The hx750 is $90 (has 12 sata connectors) and the seasonic focus 550 platinum is $70 but the seasonic would require another sata cable so $80. Hum.... don't really need 750 watt psu but ....
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It won't be much of an issue for a platinum PSU, so in your situation, I'd go with the Corsair as well (or buy a larger Seasonic if you want one of their units).
 
Even their larger units are short on sata connectors - also more expensive. Only reason i see to go with a seasonic 650 or 750 is if it was safer/more reliable (safer to the disk drives) as it would end up costing more - unless there is a very good deal next week (which there has been in previous years).

UsandThem said:
It won't be much of an issue for a platinum PSU, so in your situation, I'd go with the Corsair as well (or buy a larger Seasonic if you want one of their units).
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jonnyGURU said:
I wish that was always the case, but: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=524

Fact of the matter is, Seasonic has their PCBA's built by contractors so QC can be hit or miss since you can't supervise the entire process. Factories that do most of the work in house can have better QC across the board.

Where Seasonic does win is good engineering. But I don't always give them a pass on build quality.
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I'm flattered that the guru himself replied to my post. Pretty revealing inside info on who makes the PCBs for Seasonic. Which companies do the work in-house?
 
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