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[Starbuck1975]

This is not a matter of one side strategizing to win a war against another. The strategy for someone representing the US is to determine, at this time, what the constitutional grounds for impeachment are, what standard of evidence makes sense, and whether sufficient evidence exists on a plethora of potential impeachable offenses in order to draft into articles of impeachment and vote on moving them to the Senate for trial.

The truth here is that, in some pieces of this, e.g. instructing staff to defy subpoenas for documents and testimony during an impeachment inquiry with no rational legal argument, the exercise is academic. There is no doubt of that being impeachable conduct detrimental to the US and of Trump's guilt.

That legal argument and its validity is predicated on impartiality. The joke doesn’t matter. It’s an insight into the mind of a legal expert brought in to lend credibility, but she just couldn’t contain her TDS.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Turkey’s argument as best as I understand it would s that impeachment of Trump for him trying to rig the 2020 election should be postponed until the legal process plays out, which will likely drag on until far after the 2020 election.

Agreed, he's being disingenuous by not accepting/accounting for the fact that a full-scale investigation, subpoena and court proceedings for everyone that refuses, judicial review, etc, can take *years*, literally the full 8 years of a two-term presidency to finish. You may as well just not have an impeachment path at that point, and just accept that the Presidency is King for 8 years.

Also he says impeachment should only be about violation of criminal statutes, contradicting 2014 Jonathan Turley and 1998 Jonathan Turley. The guy wants to be on TV and that’s it.

Also agreed. His attempts to say that current definitions of criminal statutes override those of the constitution, founders, or even the intent of the impeachment process is just laughable. Imagine if he was a first-year student in classes for constitutional law spouting that shit.

 

[fskimospy]

I am sorry, I thought we were trying to impeach a President. If you want to cheer at poor jokes at the President’s expense, I highly recommend Weekend Update.

Yet another straw man. Don’t you get tired of this?

The joke is irrelevant - stop concern trolling about it. As you say, we are trying to impeach a president.

 

[fskimospy]

That legal argument and its validity is predicated on impartiality. The joke doesn’t matter. It’s an insight into the mind of a legal expert brought in to lend credibility, but she just couldn’t contain her TDS.

Man I bet you probably wrote some scathing posts about the lack of impartiality of the lone republican witness who directly contradicted his own videotapes arguments for impeaching democratic presidents.

Hold on, I’m going to search for them and add them to this post.

 

[fskimospy]

Guys we are trying to impeach a president here. That means if you even mention the name of his son in a non-disparaging way the process is now tainted by bias. I’m very, VERY concerned about this.

Trump was totally going to be convicted by the impartial Republicans in the Senate but then someone said the name that the president’s son and the president’s alter ego that Trump used to lie to the press about his sexual exploits was uttered.

We all need to focus on how this sad state of affairs is the Democrats’ fault.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

That legal argument and its validity is predicated on impartiality. The joke doesn’t matter. It’s an insight into the mind of a legal expert brought in to lend credibility, but she just couldn’t contain her TDS.

Or it's possible that Trump's such a fucking joke, that literally nobody, including esteemed legal experts and apparently world leaders, cannot help but laugh at the absurdity of the entire situation?

 

[K1052]

Pelosi has announced that she's asking her chairmen to proceed with articles of impeachment.

 

[fleshconsumed]

She discredits herself.

Progressives had her on their short list of SCOTUS contenders under Obama, but she had too many quotes and “baron” moments on record to credibly defend her impartiality.

That legal argument and its validity is predicated on impartiality. The joke doesn’t matter. It’s an insight into the mind of a legal expert brought in to lend credibility, but she just couldn’t contain her TDS.

Have you watched Kevanaugh's testimony? Need I refresh your memory?

 

[fskimospy]

Have you watched Kevanaugh's testimony? Need I refresh your memory?

To remind you in that case Starbuck was also outraged by the Democrats mentioning that the lifelong Republican politics operative that Republicans were attempting to install in the Supreme Court was also credibly accused of multiple sexual assaults.

No, really, haha. There is literally no case of Republican misbehavior that Starbuck is incapable of concern trolling Democrats about.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Man I bet you probably wrote some scathing posts about the lack of impartiality of the lone republican witness who directly contradicted his own videotapes arguments for impeaching democratic presidents.

Hold on, I’m going to search for them and add them to this post.

Since you want to play whatabout and while you’re busy, can you also post some Nadler quotes from the Clinton impeachment? While you’re at it, can you link you’re scathing posts of the Senators who voted along party lines to protect Clinton after his impeachment. k thx

 

[Starbuck1975]

To remind you in that case Starbuck was also outraged by the Democrats mentioning that the lifelong Republican politics operative that Republicans were attempting to install in the Supreme Court was also credibly accused of multiple sexual assaults.

No, really, haha. There is literally no case of Republican misbehavior that Starbuck is incapable of concern trolling Democrats about.

But Kavanaugh

 

[fskimospy]

So Pelosi has now directed the chairmen to proceed with articles of impeachment.

@blackangst1 are you now totally super surprised or something? The rest of the conservatives who inexplicably thought Trump wouldn’t be impeached, are you guys just blown away by this 100% foreseeable development?

 

[fskimospy]

Since you want to play whatabout and while you’re busy, can you also post some Nadler quotes from the Clinton impeachment? While you’re at it, can you link you’re scathing posts of the Senators who voted along party lines to protect Clinton after his impeachment. k thx

What does Jerrold Nadler have to do with your personal hypocrisy?

 

[K1052]

So Pelosi has now directed the chairmen to proceed with articles of impeachment.

@blackangst1 are you now totally super surprised or something? The rest of the conservatives who inexplicably thought Trump wouldn’t be impeached, are you guys just blown away by this 100% foreseeable development?

Apparently word was circulating on the hill that Republicans managed to convince themselves that Pelosi's will for impeachment had collapsed, they were predicting articles would not be drawn up.

How the Republicans and Trump manage to horrifically misread Pelosi at every single turn is truly a thing of wonder.

 

[fskimospy]

Guys Starbuck is very concerned about the perceived impartiality of witnesses so any minute now he’s going to post a brutal takedown of Turley.

 

[fskimospy]

Apparently word was circulating on the hill that Republicans managed to convince themselves that Pelosi's will for impeachment had collapsed, they were predicting articles would not be drawn up.

How the Republicans and Trump manage to horrifically misread Pelosi at every single turn is truly a thing of wonder.

The only explanation for this is that they live in the conservative media bubble and have actually started to believe their own bullshit.

Democrats would not have started these hearings unless they were going to draft and pass articles of impeachment. This is common sense to anyone with a brain. The only thing that would have derailed this process is some dramatic collapse of public opinion, which didn’t happen, or some bombshell witness that showed Trump was innocent after all. The exact opposite happened, of course.

It’s interesting to see when stuff like this happens because you realize what a total fantasy world conservative media operates in.

 

[brycejones]

Guys Starbuck is very concerned about the perceived impartiality of witnesses so any minute now he’s going to post a brutal takedown of Turley.

Paramedics will be standing by for anyone who holds their breath.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Apparently word was circulating on the hill that Republicans managed to convince themselves that Pelosi's will for impeachment had collapsed, they were predicting articles would not be drawn up.

How the Republicans and Trump manage to horrifically misread Pelosi at every single turn is truly a thing of wonder.

Narcissists have a way of convincing themselves they're untouchable and everyone else will fold like Superman on laundry day. I wish someone would walk around the hill and count the number of furrowed brows right now.

 

[Starbuck1975]

What does Jerrold Nadler have to do with your personal hypocrisy?

If you’re going to accuse someone of hypocrisy, you should at least put down your buckets first.

 

[fskimospy]

If you’re going to accuse someone of hypocrisy, you should at least put down your buckets first.

Nice whataboutism. What does Nadler have to do with you being a hypocrite?

You claim to be concerned about the credibility of witnesses yet you have said nothing about the Republican witness directly contradicting his own recorded views on the topic.

Why?

 

[zinfamous]

She discredits herself.

no. This is like arguing that Robert Byrd! Robert Byrd! Robert Byrd! is the real racist and of course democrat...despite being the only one remaining in the democratic party when teh rest of the true racists fled to capture the GOP, in order to continue their lynching, and despite the fact that this is a dude that long renounced his past and worked to heal whatever awfulness he caused....because self-reflection, correction, and apology do not matter to conservatives. it simply doesn't fucking matter, Everyone of you is the most perfect snowflake to ooze onto the earth, always pristine in your need to never think internally, change course, and learn from mistakes

not one of you.

Progressives had her on their short list of SCOTUS contenders under Obama, but she had too many quotes and “baron” moments on record to credibly defend her impartiality.

I don’t understand the Democrats strategy. CNN had a good article on impeachment support the other day. The people most in favor of the proceedings and watching it obsessively are those who already despise Trump. Republican voters are vested in the deep state narrative, so they’ve tuned out.

But independents are largely tuned out as well. Democrats asking softball questions to three liberal leaning legal scholars is not going to sway them. Making poor jokes undermines the impartiality of the proceedings

If anything, her joke gives credibility to the statements made by Turley.

...and yeah, concern trolling. no matter what the democrats do, especially if it's what the GOP demanded they do all along, it is still the wrong thing. Seriously, this is clown shit. It must be embarrassing to think this way.

 

[brycejones]

It’s interesting to see when stuff like this happens because you realize what a total fantasy world conservative media operates in.

The problem is conservatives will immediately forget this was even a thing and move on to the next outrageous story designed to drive viewership. Conservative media at this point is nothing more than an industry built on fleecing the rubes by keeping them afraid and telling them the only source of truth is the same outlets lying to them. Its propaganda for profit and hugely successful at this point.

 

[K1052]

The only explanation for this is that they live in the conservative media bubble and have actually started to believe their own bullshit.

Democrats would not have started these hearings unless they were going to draft and pass articles of impeachment. This is common sense to anyone with a brain. The only thing that would have derailed this process is some dramatic collapse of public opinion, which didn’t happen, or some bombshell witness that showed Trump was innocent after all. The exact opposite happened, of course.

It’s interesting to see when stuff like this happens because you realize what a total fantasy world conservative media operates in.

Of course this is magnified by a delusional liar with extremely poor judgement who is rallying them to his cause.

Trump can't manage anybody in a position of power who isn't completely under his thumb as we've seen countless times.

 

[fskimospy]

I just want you all to know that I’m very concerned about the Democrats injuring the personal dignity of the president’s son that he named after his alter ego he used to lie to the press about women he was banging.

 

[fskimospy]

The problem is conservatives will immediately forget this was even a thing and move on to the next outrageous story designed to drive viewership. Conservative media at this point is nothing more than an industry built on fleecing the rubes by keeping them afraid and telling them the only source of truth is the same outlets lying to them. Its propaganda for profit and hugely successful at this point.

Yes, as I have often said nobody has more contempt for the intelligence of those who consume conservative media than those who create conservative media.

It’s funny that they are fed a diet of information that says everyone looks down on them by people who clearly believe they are complete morons.