Something need to be done on tuition, US/Canada are run away most expensive post secondary ed in the world I am pretty sure. Free might not going to happen but it need to come down.
Something need to be done on tuition, US/Canada are run away most expensive post secondary ed in the world I am pretty sure. Free might not going to happen but it need to come down.
zinfamous
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Tuition support should be levied via higher corporate taxes--those corps that are getting more and more advanced, demanding smarter and smarter workers, are the ones that depend on an educated population if they are to exist. It is to their direct benefit that they should be shouldering the burden. At least, we decided long ago that they should be responsible for healthcare, which doesn't make much sense. But they absolutely depend on workers that are able to do the tasks that they demand. Remove private healthcare costs from their books, replace with universal tuition costs. Now the Feds don't have to deal with tuition and can focus on healthcare.
It is OT, but if it bothered you that much, you should have skipped your preamble.
zzyzxroad
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Look, you called me out for being OT, so I’m going to stop. I don’t want to derail this thread any further. Maybe I’ll start a new thread later today, if I can come up with a good title.
Indus
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You also seem to miss 1 thing.. why is it France pays people to go to school/ college because it wants better professionals, but we don't?
zzyzxroad
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It's highly unlikely that Trump will actually be removed from office by an impeachment. The Republicans in the Senate will simply ignore any crimes he's committed.
So the real goal here is to hold those Republicans accountable. The goal of the impeachment hearings should be making clear to the general public that Trump has committed crimes. And then making it clear to the general public that the Republicans are willing to allow him to commit crimes.
Then the general public will have its opportunity to render its own verdict on Election Day.
So the real goal here is to hold those Republicans accountable. The goal of the impeachment hearings should be making clear to the general public that Trump has committed crimes. And then making it clear to the general public that the Republicans are willing to allow him to commit crimes.
Then the general public will have its opportunity to render its own verdict on Election Day.
zzyzxroad
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The fact that idiots like John Kennedy can lie through their teeth and get away with it is crazy. Do the damage spreading misinformation then go to another platform and correct yourself.
Unfortunately this tact is effective and will help drive public support for impeachment down.
amp.cnn.com
Unfortunately this tact is effective and will help drive public support for impeachment down.
GOP Sen. John Kennedy backtracks on Ukraine hacking claim: ‘I was wrong’ | CNN Politics
Republican Sen. John Kennedy on Monday backtracked on claims he made a day earlier that no one can be sure it was only Russia that tried to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, saying he misunderstood the question and that he sees no evidence that Ukraine participated in the hacking.
Fanatical Meat
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zzyzxroad
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Exactly and how did he mishear a guestion and answer the way he did. Complete bs.Yeah, is he going to correct it on Fox? Probably not
Zorba
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A shit ton of moderate Democrats were bitching loudly about that. WTF are you taking about?
Not to mention every candidate is for universal coverage and against the tax cut. The argument is between public option and single payer.
GoPackGo
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hal2kilo
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No links yet. Breaking News on MSNBC - a telephone interview between Bill O'Riley and Trump has Trump saying he really did not know what Rudy was doing in Ukraine, he has other clients he was working for, and he did not tell Rudy to go to the Ukraine.
Next, Rudy? Rudy who?
Under the bus you go. Wonder if he has better "insurance" than Cohen.
EDIT: link
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-s-ukraine-efforts/ar-BBXomhl?ocid=spartandhp
Next, Rudy? Rudy who?
Under the bus you go. Wonder if he has better "insurance" than Cohen.
EDIT: link
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...-s-ukraine-efforts/ar-BBXomhl?ocid=spartandhp
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Heh.
Trump Denies Sending Rudy Giuliani to Ukraine for Biden Probe
Donald Trump denied directing Rudy Giuliani to look for dirt on his political rivals in Ukraine, in an interview with former Fox News host Bill O’Reilly.
www.bloomberg.com
Under the bus, with praise. Absolutely amazing considering the transcript of the Zelensky phone call.
zzyzxroad
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Didn't he do this before? Have a fake call with O'Reilly that "somehow" made it into the wild?
According to Bloomberg the interview was live streamed on the internet. Expect it soon on Youtube.
ivwshane
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Which makes zero sense as even the “transcript” he released says he wants Zelensky to speak to Giuliani, not to mention multiple testimonies that corroborated that.
zzyzxroad
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That's the best part of being a trump supporter... Things don't have to make sense.
crashtech
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One for the wtf file:
Schiff says he wants to speak with constituents before deciding on impeachment
How does the guy who orchestrated this whole shindig not know where he stands?
Schiff says he wants to speak with constituents before deciding on impeachment
How does the guy who orchestrated this whole shindig not know where he stands?
Bitek
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Oh good, he can't be protected by executive and/or attorney-client privilege then.
Subpoena away!
zzyzxroad
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crashtech
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"I want to discuss this with my constituents and colleagues before I make a final judgment on this," Schiff said. "
Sounds like Schiff wants to do some polling of his own over the long weekend, since the show hasn't really played too well outside of the already decided. He hasn't been able to move the needle:
us.cnn.com
It's trench warfare, and these Schiff-show hearings are like artillery shells flying overhead. Maybe a few people get blown up, but nothing really changes.
Is this thing even gonna go to a vote? I sure hope so. What a debacle if not.
Sounds like Schiff wants to do some polling of his own over the long weekend, since the show hasn't really played too well outside of the already decided. He hasn't been able to move the needle:
CNN Poll: No change in views on impeachment after public hearings | CNN Politics
After five days of public hearings in House Democrats' impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump, public opinion over whether the President ought to be impeached and removed from office remains exactly the same as it was in October, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.
Is this thing even gonna go to a vote? I sure hope so. What a debacle if not.
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