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zinfamous

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Tobacco owns most of the vaping companies. Reynolds, Altria, Imperial. They are shifting their model and starting over where they did with cigarettes. Problem is they have been far more effective this go around. They have even had school outreach programs. Vaping reps going into schools.
the funny thing is how so many seem to be forgetting, maybe, that the first major lawsuits and publicity, against vaping, came from Big Tobacco, less than 10 years ago, when they didn't have their own product on the market. Of course, they were heavily into developing Juul and related devices and products, and lobbying for absolutely onerous regulation that was specifically designed to put the small independent companies out of business due to cost of licensing and approvals. Of course states started passing this stuff, and of course you started seeing this new marketing and new products moving into territory that was swallowing up those early companies.

I mean, it was out front and open when they were doing it at the time, and here they are. Exactly as planned. And yeah: directly targeting kids again with Juul (which is what--3-4x more addictive than traditional cigarettes?)

All of these fuckers need to be knee-capped, tbh.
 

SlowSpyder

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get the everloving fuck out of here with your roundly debunked asinine horseshit, you fucking idiot. Big Tobacco has been the target of endless regulation and litigation for decades. That you claim otherwise is just fucking trollish nonsense, you fucking willfully-stupid troglodyte.

please go cornhole your guns and mail your money to Wayne, somewhere else.

Which Democrat is running on an anti-tobacco platform? How many have gun control ideas? How many have mentioned tobacco at all? Guns? Go throw your tantrum somewhere else.
 

quikah

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Which Democrat is running on an anti-tobacco platform? How many have gun control ideas? How many have mentioned tobacco at all? Guns? Go throw your tantrum somewhere else.
It is amazing that the only place I encounter cigarette smoke in the past 10 years is in red states (and overseas) when Democrats apparently don't do anything about tobacco.
 
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DrDoug

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I've been vaping and dabbing for years without issue, but only THC/CBD. Here in Oregon our shit is tested by state approved labs and if it ain't good shit it doesn't get approved for sale. I was at the doc day before yesterday (back injury followup) and my O2 level was 99%. The only time I cough is when I take a huge hit, that's it.

It's clear that some people are sucking up some bad shit but that's what you get when all you can do is trust that they aren't poisoning you with that untested/unregulated crap you are buying.
 

Viper1j

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It's going to be a hoot watching the fur fly when they take the vapes away, and everyone goes back to Marlboros and Newports.

Except for those few of us, that bought our vape pens early. Think I'll go get5 more new batteries today.
 
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TheVrolok

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get the everloving fuck out of here with your roundly debunked asinine horseshit, you fucking idiot. Big Tobacco has been the target of endless regulation and litigation for decades. That you claim otherwise is just fucking trollish nonsense, you fucking willfully-stupid troglodyte.

please go cornhole your guns and mail your money to Wayne, somewhere else.
This is his first and most obvious troll. Once you see him continue to claim this absurdity, it's easy to realize he's just a troll/paid shill.
 

Luna1968

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What I had heard this morning as well was that a large percentage of the people hospitalized had gone directly to ICU and most were put on respirators. The effects from vaping seem to be very quick and very severe.
since vaping has been around for over a decade with none of this happening, what has changed?
 
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since vaping has been around for over a decade with none of this happening, what has changed?
My guess is time and proliferation happened. I've seen people adopt vaping in the last year or two at en exponential rate anecdotally. A much wider user base and more people with prolonged usage.
 

Maxima1

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My guess is time and proliferation happened. I've seen people adopt vaping in the last year or two at en exponential rate anecdotally. A much wider user base and more people with prolonged usage.
This doesn't make any sense even if we myopically look at US only. They have happened within weeks of each other and have been rapid onset. Moreover, most have been connected with black market THC products. It's pretty obvious where this is going.
 

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