PSA: Marathons hurt

SWScorch

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Some of you may remember me. Some of you may even recall that I am a runner. After I graduated from college I got the crazy idea that I would run a marathon. After all, I went from being a mediocre JV runner in high school to actually winning a few road races and was running crazy mileage and basically feeling invincible.

So I registered for the Steamtown Marathon in Scranton, PA and dedicated the past 10 months of my life to training for it. I averaged 70+ miles per week, with 2 or 3 weeks at 85 miles and 4 runs of 20 miles or longer. I only took 8 days off this entire year, and 4 were because I was on vacation at the time (2 separate vacations). I lowered my half-marathon PR by a minute a half and basically got into the shape of my life. I figured with my half time of 1:21:00 (6:13 pace) that I could run 2:50 (6:30 pace) for a marathon.

The big day finally came yesterday, and all the thousands of miles I have logged were all put to the rest as I started off with the sound of the cannon to a journey of 26.2 miles. I was right on pace for 2:50 all the way through the half, but somewhere around 16 miles, the wheels just fell off and I blew up. Those of you who have done marathons can relate to what it's like to feel like crap and have 10 miles left. I slowed down to 7:30-8:00 miles until mile 22 or so, and then every single muscle in my lower body cramped up. I was forced to walk right before the 23rd mile marker, and spent the remaining 3.2 miles alternating running, walking a stretching. I can truthfully say it was the single hardest thing I have ever done and took more willpower to continue on than I ever imagined. I ended up finishing in 3:18:42, or 7:35 pace. Honestly, I'm not all that disappointed, as I still consider that a decent time, but remember, I thought I was a seasoned runner. I may not be the fastest, but I've been running for almost 10 years and have seen huge improvements in the past few years and I'd agree that most runners would describe me as pretty good. But this marathon kicked my ass.

Looking back, it's apparent that I set my goals too high, especially for my first attempt at the distance. 3:00 would have been a good goal, but it seems to me now that my success in the half-marathon did not translate well into success at the marathon. I am sincerely humbled now and realize I was overconfident. I was completely flabbergasted for the sheer physical pain the distance inflicted on me. After I finished, I couldn't even walk. Even just standing hurt too much and took too much out of me. I was quivering, blubbering mess.

I have come to the conclusion that the marathon is an insanely, ludicrously, absurdly stupid distance to race and all marathoners are bloody fools. Yet, my failure has only strengthened my resolve to return and prove to myself and to everyone else that I can run under 3 hours, and eventually under 2:50. For today though, I will continue to whimper at the sight of stairs and raise my glass of lager to everyone who has completed a marathon, regardless of time. Stand tall, brothers and sisters. It takes more physical and mental strength and willpower to complete a marathon than most men and women would be willing to endure. My hats off to all of you.
 

Bateluer

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Better time than I had on my first marathon. :)

Ended up running out of gas at mile 16, finished a little over 4hr. :( I'll do better next time though.
 

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I used to do 14 mile long runs and did a 20k race once. I had some weeks in college where I was logging over 100 miles a week.

Never in my life have I ever felt the urge or desire to do a marathon. 14 miles really didn't bother me that much, and I felt fine after that 12.4 mile race. But 26 miles?

No effin way.

But you've got my respect man. That's a very respectable time for your first shot at it.
 

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Kudos to you!!! (As I get ready to put another couple miles on the treadmill).


I've always "enjoyed" running, I've just NEVER had the endurance to do much more than a couple, few miles.

It sounds like you're definitely on track to do a full marathon. I want to do a 5K or 10K, but I never pay enough attention to find out when they're going on.

Keep up the work & digest as much advice as possible for your next marathon. There is more than one way to run a marathon & I'm sure you'll find the way for you!! :thumbsup:
 

Megatomic

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Wow, what a painful story to read. Congrats on finishing though Scorch. :beer: And to think I'm training to compete in an ironman triathlon by the time I turn 40. :eek:
 

SWScorch

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
I used to do 14 mile long runs and did a 20k race once. I had some weeks in college where I was logging over 100 miles a week.

Never in my life have I ever felt the urge or desire to do a marathon. 14 miles really didn't bother me that much, and I felt fine after that 12.4 mile race. But 26 miles?

No effin way.

But you've got my respect man. That's a very respectable time for your first shot at it.

Thanks man. I love half-marathons. They are by far my favorite distance. I assumed that since I liked halves more than 5Ks and 10Ks, that the trend would continue and I would like marathons even more. Nope. Marathons just suck! :p I'm sure that next time it will be better and I'll be able to run strong through the finish, but even so, half-marathons are just long enough that I can keep a hard effort throughout and still feel like I'm running hard without redlining. The marathon just seems never-ending. But I see why it's so alluring. Yeah, it sucked, and I'm still sore as all hell, but dammit, I'm determined to conquer the distance now!
 

SWScorch

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Originally posted by: Megatomic
Wow, what a painful story to read. Congrats on finishing though Scorch. :beer: And to think I'm training to compete in an ironman triathlon by the time I turn 40. :eek:

Dude, I can't even fathom that. One of my friends did an Ironman last year. This marathon was so physically draining, I don't even want to think about running one after swimming and biking. Of course, I can't swim anyway, but in my opinion, Ironman athletes are superhuman. That is definitely beyond the limits of my abilities, at least at the moment. Good luck to you!!! You have my respect for even entertaining the idea! :D
 

Capt Caveman

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Congrats on your first marathon finish!!! You still had a good time and you'll do better the next time out. Did you taper your running enough before the marathon? Stay hydrated enough prior and during the race?
 

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on your first marathon finish!!! You still had a good time and you'll do better the next time out. Did you taper your running enough before the marathon? Stay hydrated enough prior and during the race?

These are questions that I can only answer after my next marathon. :) I took a two-week taper, from 70 to 50 to 40 and I was drinking 3/4-1 gallon of water/gatorade a day throughout my entire training cycle and up to the marathon. I drank gatorade and water at every aid station. I just think 2:50 was too fast to try for my first marathon. But someday, someday I will run it.
 

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
awesome, that is 26 miles further than i can run :thumbsup: good job

You can run .2 miles!?!?!?!?!!!?

:shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked::shocked:
 

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on your first marathon finish!!! You still had a good time and you'll do better the next time out. Did you taper your running enough before the marathon? Stay hydrated enough prior and during the race?

These are questions that I can only answer after my next marathon. :) I took a two-week taper, from 70 to 50 to 40 and I was drinking 3/4-1 gallon of water/gatorade a day throughout my entire training cycle and up to the marathon. I drank gatorade and water at every aid station. I just think 2:50 was too fast to try for my first marathon. But someday, someday I will run it.

You only drank .75 to 1 gallon of liquid per day and while you were training for a marathon? That seems a bit small considering I drink between 1 and 2 gallons of water per day just for weight training.
 

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Originally posted by: RapidSnail
Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on your first marathon finish!!! You still had a good time and you'll do better the next time out. Did you taper your running enough before the marathon? Stay hydrated enough prior and during the race?

These are questions that I can only answer after my next marathon. :) I took a two-week taper, from 70 to 50 to 40 and I was drinking 3/4-1 gallon of water/gatorade a day throughout my entire training cycle and up to the marathon. I drank gatorade and water at every aid station. I just think 2:50 was too fast to try for my first marathon. But someday, someday I will run it.

You only drank .75 to 1 gallon of liquid per day and while you were training for a marathon? That seems a bit small considering I drink between 1 and 2 gallons of water per day just for weight training.

If he only weighs 150 pounds that's a decent amount of fluids. 2 gallons of fluid is very excessive and you'd have it sloshing in your belly. Not a pleasant feeling if you are running.
 

Gibsons

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3:18 is damn good, especially for the first time.

I'm surprised at how few days you took off, maybe you need more rest?
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on your first marathon finish!!! You still had a good time and you'll do better the next time out. Did you taper your running enough before the marathon? Stay hydrated enough prior and during the race?

These are questions that I can only answer after my next marathon. :) I took a two-week taper, from 70 to 50 to 40 and I was drinking 3/4-1 gallon of water/gatorade a day throughout my entire training cycle and up to the marathon. I drank gatorade and water at every aid station. I just think 2:50 was too fast to try for my first marathon. But someday, someday I will run it.

Honestly, it sounds like you might have overtrained. 40 miles the week before is not tapering. Though I work full-time and maybe didn't have enough time to train properly, I never ran more than 50 in a week. In my last two weeks, I really dropped the mileage with a couple of rest days between runs.
 

SWScorch

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SWScorch
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Congrats on your first marathon finish!!! You still had a good time and you'll do better the next time out. Did you taper your running enough before the marathon? Stay hydrated enough prior and during the race?

These are questions that I can only answer after my next marathon. :) I took a two-week taper, from 70 to 50 to 40 and I was drinking 3/4-1 gallon of water/gatorade a day throughout my entire training cycle and up to the marathon. I drank gatorade and water at every aid station. I just think 2:50 was too fast to try for my first marathon. But someday, someday I will run it.

Honestly, it sounds like you might have overtrained. 40 miles the week before is not tapering. Though I work full-time and maybe didn't have enough time to train properly, I never ran more than 50 in a week. In my last two weeks, I really dropped the mileage with a couple of rest days between runs.

It's possible I could have overtrained, but I was running really well for other distances and nailing workouts, and whenever I felt that prolonged fatigue so common with overtraining, I would take a few days to a week easy. I based my training plan on a combination of Jack Daniel's and Pete Pfitzinger's plans and both had a 70 mpw runner doing 36-40 miles the week before the marathon.

And as for the amount of water I drink, a gallon of water a day had me pissing completely clear every 45 minutes. I weigh 130 pounds and even just drinking two nalgene bottles worth of fluid a day gets me very well hydrated.