PSA: Linux hits 3% on Steam (Actual usage over 5% of all computers)

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Lifer
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coldmeat mentioned black screening a few days back, so I'll share my own anecdote.

I've daily driven Ubuntu Linux since spring 2017, upgrading it a few times along the way (except for the beginning, always sticking to LTS releases). Unity was deprecated in 2018, so I was forcibly switched to GNOME a few years ago. I'm still running 22.04 with the stock kernel.

Anyway, one of the few annoyances since the last major upgrade is that when the screen blanks, it doesn't unblank on any input. The system is still running, but the screen is just black. Initially, my only recourse was to fully sleep the system, then wake it up. (I rarely ever reboot, because why?)

So seems like something weird with GDM when blanking the screen. Maybe upgrading to 24.04 will fix it, but I've been dragging my feet since last year. Eventually, I did discover a "solution." If I quickly mash the ESC key in repetition, the GDM login screen actually appears as it normally should.

Ubuntu has had some quality control issues over the past few years, and this is one of the little quirks I've learned to tolerate. Debian 13 was released just yesterday (as was Proxmox VE 9 last week), so maybe it's time...


sorry but this is just ignorant hyperbole
check out Indus and Biostud's threads in the Operating System forum to see how feasable it is to switch off windows nowadays
Not to mention macOS is somewhere around 15% of PC usage share globally. Sure Apple is a walled garden, but that's fairly impressive considering they are a single vendor. Consider that in poorer countries, there is very little macOS usage so the share in the top markets of U.S. and UK is substantially higher than 15%.

If in 2010, someone told you that macOS + Linux would be approx. 20% of PC usage fifteen years later, you'd LOL.

Linux is rarely preinstalled by OEMs, so it requires some effort to adopt. But the trend line has been intriguing since Steam Deck.
 
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PingSpike

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Yep I gave up on untu's just about then too..

I'm just glad KDE got it's shit together and is one of the most polished desktop environments if not arguably the most polished one around.

Edit: BTW untu's are certified pyschos now because while the mainstream linux community loves flathub.. Ubuntu is dedicated to using snaps. Things are so bad.. Linux Mint made Linux Mint Debian Edition so that people who love Linux Mint can still continue using it with a debian base if Ubuntu is no longer a reliable base for an operating system.

Don't believe me.. have a look: https://linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

That's why I put my wife on LMDE instead of standard LM and she loves it. Debian doesn't do stupid shit like that.
It is actually worse since they lock their snap implementation to Ubuntu's snap store and then redirect apt installs to run snap installs. Even if you like snaps, this is a vendor lock in play which is one of the main reasons I started the migration off Windows in the first place.
 
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It is actually worse since they lock their snap implementation to Ubuntu's snap store and then redirect apt installs to run snap installs. Even if you like snaps, this is a vendor lock in play which is one of the main reasons I started the migration off Windows in the first place.

Yeah I'm gonna stick with Debian for stability and Fedora for updated fast whereever possible.

I have Windows as a backup if I needed.. I'll never get rid of it fully but I've only used it twice in about a month.
 
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I use Ubuntu, I dont remember the last time I used or install Windows in my computers... Ubuntu Fossa 22.4
 

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Just want to say something: avoid Ubuntu based distros.

In the almost decade I use Linux as an normie, with time I discovered that almost all problems I had were cause by the Ubuntu base of the Distro I was using.
Now I'm a happy SUSE user.
 
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Just want to say something: avoid Ubuntu based distros.

In the almost decade I use Linux as an normie, with time I discovered that almost all problems I had were cause by the Ubuntu base of the Distro I was using.
Now I'm a happy SUSE user.
Why? I use mint on one of my old systems
 

Indus

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Why? I use mint on one of my old systems

Debian based mint is much better.

Looks exactly the same, you don't have to learn new commands but it's a lot nicer with software and under the hood stuff than ubuntu based mint.

Even their own forums keep saying the same thing over and over.
 
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Why? I use mint on one of my old systems
Ubuntu development is based on Debian unstable. This isn't as bad as it sounds. Back in the day, Debian OS releases would quickly become outdated because software versions are frozen (security updates and bug fixes okay, but no major version upgrades). This was great for servers, but a bit painful for desktop usage. Ubuntu would never have become one of the most popular distros if it was based on Debian stable. In practice, Ubuntu Linux was generally considered a well-supported, quality distro for both client and server use cases.

However, it feels like Ubuntu quality control has gotten somewhat worse the past 5 years or so. The biggest complaint by far is they're pushing snap packages so hard, and losing longtime users in the process.

There are many distros worth trying. Anyone who flatly says don't use Ubuntu because it's the root of all evil is being hyperbolic. ITT, Win11 is the root of all evil. :p
 
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Fuckin' Windows/File Explorer crashed in Win11 again yesterday. I sort of think it might be tied in with OneDrive in some way, I don't have these issues on my home PCs on Win11, but I disable OneDrive on those.
 

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Fuckin' Windows/File Explorer crashed in Win11 again yesterday. I sort of think it might be tied in with OneDrive in some way, I don't have these issues on my home PCs on Win11, but I disable OneDrive on those.
As @WelshBloke alluded to, OneDrive has tricked some users (including my dad) with its cloud "back up" feature. In reality, it's not backup but a hostile takeover.


 
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As @WelshBloke alluded to, OneDrive has tricked some users (including my dad) with its cloud "back up" feature. In reality, it's not backup but a hostile takeover.


This is on my work PC so I don't really have any control over it. My issue is sometimes when I open an Explorer window to access files, it will say "Working on it" and then go non-responsive, even when left alone for an excessive amount of time. The directory I was trying to access only has 51 text files in it totaling less than 1MB 😑
 

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Currently using the regular mint but is considering Fedora plasma edition. Anyone got experience with Fedora?
both Indus and I are using it now. technically the ultramarine spins that add some QoL tweaks to base fedora.

very much worth trying out
 
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Currently using the regular mint but is considering Fedora plasma edition. Anyone got experience with Fedora?

Yeah I'm really liking Fedora's spin Ultramarine as well. Mostly what dragged me to fedora was although I can use Cinnamon.. I love KDE.

If you want to try fedora.. I suggest trying ultramarine instead since it has a few drivers and added repository's out of the box that make your life a whole lot easier but it's basically fedora in every way.. commands/ functionality/ kernels..

Infact it's so much like fedora you can actually do a migration from fedora without a clean install.

If you already have it installed all you do is type this in terminal if you're on fedora already:
bash <(curl -s https://ultramarine-linux.org/migrate.sh)

Here's what my Fedora spin Ultramarine KDE looks like:

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