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PSA: If you find out one of your relatives is a hoarder......

Meghan54

Lifer
and you get asked to help "fix" it.......RUN!!!


Why? Well, we were given a bit of property on Cape Cod which included a house that had had a hoarder in it, who'd been hoarding there since 1960. And the hoarding, while not involving garbage at all, did spill outside and took over almost an acre of the ~3ac of the property.

It's sad, really. When we moved here 18 months ago to care for the hoarder (my wife's father) after his heart attack, we worked for 3 months trying to clean up, just my wife and myself. But we're both in our late 50's, and after filling up a 15 cu yd and two 20 cu yd roll off dumpsters, we gave up, esp. when her father began crying/complaining about us getting rid of his "good stuff."

Now that he passed last December and we're selling and moving, we've restarted the cleaning out of the house. I'm sitting here looking at some of his "good stuff", at least 60 old cameras----most of which are old Kodak Instamatics. He bought damned near every old, worthless piece of crap camera he saw over the years....yard sales, thrift stores, etc. And they were stuck everywhere, under the sink, inside a non-working dishwasher, everywhere.

And that was only one item he "saved"....others include paperback books. I quit counting at 1,000 and that barely scratched the surface. We've already thrown away a 5 cu yd dumpster full of paperbacks and have tons more. There were rooms that you could only enter the door, the rest of the room was walled off with crap.

Then there are the worthless CB radios, broken electronics, broken small appliances (he'd buy used shit, use it till it invariably broke a week after purchase, then save it to "fix it" later---which never happened), and on and on. I swear, if it had a cord, he'd buy it.

Word to the wise.....if a family member is found to be a hoarder, save your sanity and frustration----move them out and burn the house. It's the only way.
 
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She's right. It's even more mind boggling and terrifying than that hoarding show on TV. My heart goes out to anyone having to deal with that situation.
 
I like hoarders and audiophiles. I can sell one $10,000 cord to the audiophool and ten thousand $1 cords to the hoarder.
 
Hire someone to dispose of it. Pull out the things you want and tell the folks you hire to make everything else go away. No point in stressing over it.
 
Hire someone to dispose of it. Pull out the things you want and tell the folks you hire to make everything else go away. No point in stressing over it.

Yeah that works great when the person in question has already passed away, but things are a little more complex and stressful when you are dealing with a loved ones psychosis up close and personal.

I'm all for hiring extra hands, but I think dealing with hording without stress, in most cases, is highly unlikely.
 
Yeah that works great when the person in question has already passed away, but things are a little more complex and stressful when you are dealing with a loved ones psychosis up close and personal.

I'm all for hiring extra hands, but I think dealing with hording without stress, in most cases, is highly unlikely.

It might actually help someone, to take all their stuff away, while they are still alive, to show them, that instead of saving something, they are in fact condemning it to become trash. As the hoarder often is motivated by conservation, showing them this link may be therapeutic.
 
It might actually help someone, to take all their stuff away, while they are still alive, to show them, that instead of saving something, they are in fact condemning it to become trash. As the hoarder often is motivated by conservation, showing them this link may be therapeutic.

I think you lose that moral high ground while you're robbing them :biggrin:
 
My father-in-law is the same. You pretty much described him exactly (other than living in Cape Cod). While I don't want him to pass away any time soon, I have actually been looking forward to the disposal. I find it fascinating all the useless junk that he accumulates. Oh, he supposedly will fix it someday when he has the time. Which never happens, and never will happen. Its perfectionism taken to the extreme. As soon as he can sit down and fix it perfectly, instead of doing a B+ job on fixing it, then he'll do so. But with all the projects, there is never time for any fixing.

I'm looking forward to filtering through the time-capsule. Looking forward to seeing what color carpet their house has. All I know is that the carpet is shag, and in mint condition (other than being squished for 40 years under boxes of books, electronics, and junk), probably in mint color. But, I probably will just hire an estate auctioneering company to sell off this junk to other hoarders.

I too have been thinking for years that the best thing that could ever happen to him would be a fire. It'll free him from the shackles of all those unfinished projects. Sure, he'll keep buying more stuff. And it'll start all over again. But there would be a brief period where he could do things that he has always wanted to do. Things such as buying a house that he actually wants to live in (hopefully with at least one usable closet). Or having time to read one of the books that he buys, since there are no projects to get in the way of reading. Or actually being able to do anything since he can finally find his tools/equipment.
 
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Why not put an ad in craigslist saying people can have anything they want as long as they take at least one garbage bag full of stuff away?

-KeithP
 
Put on side of road in boxes that says "free stuff" and walk away, cheaper than getting a dumpster.
I got rid of lot of things that way.

However i certainly threw away a lot of stuff growing up that i thought was junk too, now i see them on Ebay fetching decent prices.
 
My in-laws are like this. Last year they moved out of their house and spent over a month going through it all. They had a 3 day yard sale at the end with I dont know how many trips to the dump. I was amazed at how many things she had bought that hadnt even been opened yet. And when asked why she had them it was always that the item was on "sale". Now that they have moved back into the same house after cleaning it, it looks just like it did before. I cant stand going over there because you always have to look for a trail to move around.
 
. And when asked why she had them it was always that the item was on "sale". .

My wife has that problem, mostly with clothes and movies. Though she'll wear the clothes, just some not often enough to justify keeping it. Several unopened DVD's.
Oh and xmas wrapping paper, we have an insane amount.

Though i do have a lot of pricey electronics i need to get rid of, like car audio gear, games..etc, all in near perfect condition cause i'm a perfectionist, i just don't have the time to mess with it is my problem.
 
It might actually help someone, to take all their stuff away, while they are still alive, to show them, that instead of saving something, they are in fact condemning it to become trash. As the hoarder often is motivated by conservation, showing them this link may be therapeutic.

Not gonna work. It's a mental issue.

Daddy's a hoarder, and we're pretty sure a sibling is too.

We tried throwing out some of daddy's shit once. He. Went. Crazy. It was mostly scrap steel that goes for $100/ton (?) or some stupid number that made it pointless given his income.

Fucking asshole (after this story, you will agree, despite missing many worse untold details) had a complete breakdown, stormed up and down the stairs, ran around the house cursing everyone, but especially mom. He was going to break something or kill someone. Then mom gives him $500 in cold cash to compensate him, and he suddenly calms down.

Sister's also a hoarder.

I, me and mostly me alone, tried to clean out her old room because the **** moved out for about 2 years already, came home once a month on average for 2 hours to "visit". We wanted to makek use of that room and we'd asked her over the 2 years repeatedly to clean the mess up. I threw away many stacks of old magazines from years ago, and a ton of product packaging -- she also has a spending problem. Think by the time I said "screw it", I had packed more than half a dozen garbage bags full of useless papers, magazines, and packaging. The fucking ***** also had a meltdown. Less yelling and murderous rage than daddy, but still a meltdown. She stormed off.

She has now moved back home because of a bunch of reasons including finding mice in her basement apartment. She brought home about 2 to 3 dozen garbage bags worth of trash because she went on a spending/hoarding binge while living on her own. I visited a few times, we are talking 3 feet high stacks of unread but new books and magazines, piles of clothing, food ingredients everywhere, etc.
 
My mom once asked me to go help an acquaintance (friend of friend) for several hours, load her stuff into a moving truck. Older woman in her 60s with some health issues, total hip replacement several months earlier. Husband dead for 10+ years. Kids all moved away. Can't remember if she sold her home or what, but had only one more full day to clear out.

Holy shit bags. It wasn't filthy hoarding as in dead cats buried under garbage. It was just the sheer volume of shit she had accumulated over her life. In addition to a few rooms in her house, 2-car garage was packed six feet high, wall to wall, with just a narrow path in the middle that was maybe 24 inches wide. The stuff in the garage was mostly in boxes, like she had moved it all 20 years ago, never unpacked it, and just kept adding to it.

I felt terrible for her but there was nothing I could do. There was nothing anyone could do for her in just 1.5 days, with one rental truck, except maybe if she had hired professional movers. Plus her new home was 80 miles away. Its not like she was moving 30 minutes across town.

Me and another guy (neighbor or something) did what we could, we got the truck packed full and she still had a good three truck loads left. Made $20 for about five hours of work. I don't know what happened, I didn't go back the next day. I did feel bad for her but she's not my family. I don't know where her five adult children were but they weren't there.
 
Is it stuff that is actually good, in the sense that, if there was not so much of it, it would be something worth keeping?

Have a giant yard sale where everything is free. Basically for like a month you have a sign that just invites people to go dig in and take what they want. You'd probably have to check with your municipality first as some have rules about how long you can have a yard sale, but if it's free you are probably exempt.

After the month you then dispose of the rest. Some people actually enjoy that stuff, they want to go see if they can find any odd stuff. Might even be on one of the many TV shows that do this. 😛
 
Just send them on vacation for a weekend. Then have a 30 yard dumpster delivered.

My Dad is a slow hoarder. Not like on TV bad. But it takes time. He slowly accumulates more and more crap. It might take decades but it builds and builds.

He'll NEVER dust. Eventually the carpet is nasty. Dust everywhere. And stuff junk all over. It could be a brand new house when he started but it just turns to crap slowly.

A few years ago I remodeled his house for him. My God he freaks out over everything I touch. It's so stressful. Here I am trying to help him and he just lashes out at me over it. I even went through every single piece of junk and paper to make sure I wasn't throwing anything important away. Every freaking piece I looked at! It took ages. I had to force him to throw away garbage furniture.

Finally I got the place remodeled. It looked so nice. Thank goodness though I made him sell the place. He also is a habitual credit card spender and debt refinancer and would have been bankrupt if I didn't do all that. I try to look out for him but all he does is fight me and make things difficult.

So he moved a few times. Places weren't that bad. slowly started getting worse. When I'd visit I'd clean. So we kept on top of it. But God he'd freak out every time. I just want him to have nice things in his old age and for once in his life. But he flips out!

Then he moved into my brothers rental property. I went over and fixed lots of thing first in the new place. Cleaned the whole place, cleaned the carpet. Moved all his stuff over, got it all set up so it's nice. Hung pictures, decorated, etc.

Slowly he starts to turn the place to crap. Never cleans. Starts acquiring junk. I kept on him but eventually gave up.

The funny thing is he comes to visit my places and loves them. Loves the work I do and is proud of me. So I try to do all this work for him and apply my talents to his place and he freaks out. Makes it horrible for me. But after a few days after I did it he settles down and gets used to it and likes it. But he turns it to crap again.

Oh but get this. He's totally psycho about no dishes in the sink. If I set a cup in there he runs over and cleans it and puts it away. I can do that 10 times a day and each time he makes sure the sink is perfect. Even though the counters are nasty and the floor is littered with stains and crumbs and old food. And dust everywhere. He's insane.

I even wanted to buy him a house and charge very little rent and eventually none. I wanted him to have a nice place and nice yard I'd make for him where he can sit in. But he won't leave because his bills are so high he can't retire from all his credit card debt. And he won't listen to anyone or let me fix it.

I just wanted him to have nice things and enjoy the last part of his life. But I have to watch him die a slave to debt and unhappy where he's at in a crap hole. I gave up. I'm not touching any of his garbage anymore or trying to help. It's sad.
 

This. I had a friend who's mother was a hoarder, and when her mom died she had to sell the house. So myself and about 5 of her other friends came to clear it out. Spent all day hauling shit down to the dump and we barely scratched the surface. Given jobs and school, ended up being worth it to call one of the local disposal services, pay them $1000 to clean everything out.
 
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