PSA: Hibernate makes standby/sleep mode irrelevant, and saves as much power as shutting down...

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daniel1113

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Eh. My computer is on 24x7, and I've gone without restarting for nearly two months. I use hibernation on my laptop every night, though.
 

overst33r

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I use hibernation usually...but i noticed after frequent use...windows has to delete the hibernation file and restart again....
 

loup garou

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I use hibernate on my laptop, but S3 on my desktop for wake-on-lan if I need to connect to it from work. I also use S3 on my mediacenter box for the same reason, it also wakes up to record any scheduled shows then goes back to sleep. Can't do that with hibernate.
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: loup garou
I use hibernate on my laptop, but S3 on my desktop for wake-on-lan if I need to connect to it from work. I also use S3 on my mediacenter box for the same reason, it also wakes up to record any scheduled shows then goes back to sleep. Can't do that with hibernate.

What's the difference between S1 and S3 standby states? I see the option in my BIOS but I don't know what it means.
 

lokiju

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I shut down my desktop (except for my server) if I'm not using it on my desktop, on my laptop I suspend it since my nic won't pick back up without a reboot from hibernate.

 

pontifex

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
I also use shutdown, it only takes about 30 seconds to boot into windows.

That's great mate ;)

In my case, startup takes quite a while, since my XP install is ancient & i have a boatload of crap that initialises each time.

Hibernate is almost instant however.

If you bother to read the OP, rather than being an argumentative little twerp, you'll notice i'm addressing people who use standby primarily, as it is almost totally irrelvant as far as i can see ;)

PSA: Don't install a bunch of crap that slows your machine down.
 

gsellis

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It depends on what you are doing and what you have "plugged in". Where hibernating can be an issue is with either a dock/undock scenario or where some UNIX/network services connected.

Hibernating a docked laptop and then unhibernating it undocked, then vice versa *can* (not will) cause issues. Some bad drivers will also not restart correctly. Some network processes can lose their mind. I always think of a laptop running an OS as a 3 year old child. If they fall asleep in the car, and then wakeup in the house, they can have a *moment*.

Some network services using 3rd party UNIX connectors or other things (like older Documentum) also do not suffer hibernation well and require restarts to *fix* them.

But when it works, it is cool. Use it on my personal lappy all the time. Rarely use it on my work lappy unless it is undocked. Never use it on my workstation as the DASD drivers don't support it well.
 

Sc4freak

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Hibernate takes up 1.5gb of my prescious HDD space. Standby takes too long. Shutdown/Startup takes a rediculously high amount of time. I refuse to wait a full 30 seconds to use my computer!

I just leave it on 24/7. I do turn off the monitor, though, for fear of something burning in.
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
I also use shutdown, it only takes about 30 seconds to boot into windows.

That's great mate ;)

In my case, startup takes quite a while, since my XP install is ancient & i have a boatload of crap that initialises each time.

Hibernate is almost instant however.

If you bother to read the OP, rather than being an argumentative little twerp, you'll notice i'm addressing people who use standby primarily, as it is almost totally irrelvant as far as i can see ;)

PSA: Don't install a bunch of crap that slows your machine down.

PSA: on most computers, hibernate will always be quicker, and it will leave every program exactly as it was ;)

 

loup garou

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Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: loup garou
I use hibernate on my laptop, but S3 on my desktop for wake-on-lan if I need to connect to it from work. I also use S3 on my mediacenter box for the same reason, it also wakes up to record any scheduled shows then goes back to sleep. Can't do that with hibernate.

What's the difference between S1 and S3 standby states? I see the option in my BIOS but I don't know what it means.
Essentially, S3 is an even more power-saving suspend mode. It shuts off power to all devices except RAM, unlike S1 that will keep fans, CPU and HDs running.

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If you want to enable S3, but your bios is set to S1, you'll need to reinstall windows or I believe there are some reg hacks you can do.

There are also some new sleep technologies coming with Vista I think.
 

archcommus

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Originally posted by: loup garou
I use hibernate on my laptop, but S3 on my desktop for wake-on-lan if I need to connect to it from work. I also use S3 on my mediacenter box for the same reason, it also wakes up to record any scheduled shows then goes back to sleep. Can't do that with hibernate.
Could you explain that in more detail? Sometimes I debate leaving my computer on during the day depending on whether I think I'll want to connect it from work or not. Could I use that to essentially have it hibernate but then still remote desktop to it if I want to and have it wake up?
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: loup garou
Originally posted by: Aflac
Originally posted by: loup garou
I use hibernate on my laptop, but S3 on my desktop for wake-on-lan if I need to connect to it from work. I also use S3 on my mediacenter box for the same reason, it also wakes up to record any scheduled shows then goes back to sleep. Can't do that with hibernate.

What's the difference between S1 and S3 standby states? I see the option in my BIOS but I don't know what it means.
Essentially, S3 is an even more power-saving suspend mode. It shuts off power to all devices except RAM, unlike S1 that will keep fans, CPU and HDs running.

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If you want to enable S3, but your bios is set to S1, you'll need to reinstall windows or I believe there are some reg hacks you can do.

There are also some new sleep technologies coming with Vista I think.

My understanding of the new sleep mode in vista is that it's a combination 23/hibernate. It goes into s3, and writes to disk as well. If there is a total power loss, it will restore from disk, otherwise, super fast from ram.

I'd put it into hibernate more often if it was more easily configurable...I have a lot of tasks that I run overnight, defrag, virus scan etc...half of them can't wake up a sleeping computer, and it doesn't go back into sleep afterwards. The windows task scheduler is useless!
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: archcommus
Originally posted by: loup garou
I use hibernate on my laptop, but S3 on my desktop for wake-on-lan if I need to connect to it from work. I also use S3 on my mediacenter box for the same reason, it also wakes up to record any scheduled shows then goes back to sleep. Can't do that with hibernate.
Could you explain that in more detail? Sometimes I debate leaving my computer on during the day depending on whether I think I'll want to connect it from work or not. Could I use that to essentially have it hibernate but then still remote desktop to it if I want to and have it wake up?

That is exactly what it is theoreticlly for, but you need to send a special "magic packet" to wake it up, that I'm not sure remote desktop sends.
 

ForumMaster

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i don't use either. standby disables CpuIdle which turns off my CPU and my power settings are set to turn of the HDD after 5 minutes and the LCD after 10. when i need to, i shutdown. simple better for windows to rest once a month of two. reload properlly and all.