PSA: For some men, staying in shape may override body weight (CNN)

[TallBill]

I was near obese according to BMI when I played college football. 5' 10" 190 pounds at 5% body fat. Yup, clearly obese.

Eh, even if it's muscle it still isn't necessarily healthy to carry around extra body weight. I was up to 253 and in really good shape and it was probably harder on my body than being at 230 now. That being said, I'd still like to get back up to the 250's some day

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

no doubt brutal hits to the head will do that like boxers, but can you prove that shortened life is from a high bmi? Baseball players, basketball players, sprinters, you pick any athlete other than marathon runners and their bmi is out there I bet.

I bet compared to football players their BMI is much better.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Eh, even if it's muscle it still isn't necessarily healthy to carry around extra body weight. I was up to 253 and in really good shape and it was probably harder on my body than being at 230 now. That being said, I'd still like to get back up to the 250's some day

Because being large is awesome. I'm a man of size and I used to have problems with the ladies. I spend the last few years in the gym and it's a different world for me now. I'm still a bit tubby, not especially handsome, average job, but the ladies like a big strong man who makes them feel safe.

 

[Patranus]

BMI is not meaningless, it is one tool that was never meant to be the be all & end all of healthy weight determination.

BMI of 31.5 which is "obese".
BMI = Kg / m^2
Muscle > Fat
Seems like a pretty shitty benchmark to me.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Because being large is awesome. I'm a man of size and I used to have problems with the ladies. I spend the last few years in the gym and it's a different world for me now. I'm still a bit tubby, not especially handsome, average job, but the ladies like a big strong man who makes them feel safe.

I get the women I want being somewhat fit and thin. I don't cruise bars for them though, and don't need a crutch to have self confidence.

 

[Zebo]

Eh, even if it's muscle it still isn't necessarily healthy to carry around extra body weight. I was up to 253 and in really good shape and it was probably harder on my body than being at 230 now. That being said, I'd still like to get back up to the 250's some day

How tall are you Tall bill? 250 aint shit for tall men. I think most basketball players are 240-250 and thin as a rail. Labron is like 260 right? Out of shape obviously.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

BMI of 31.5 which is "obese".
Muscle > Fat
Seems like a pretty shitty benchmark to me.

Most of the people calling BS on these boards about it do not in fact look like him.

 

[surfsatwerk]

I get the women I want being somewhat fit and thin. I don't cruise bars for them though, and don't need a crutch to have self confidence.

ok

 

[Patranus]

Most of the people calling BS on these boards about it do not in fact look like him.

I am simply saying that muscle is of higher density than fat and since the equation is

BMI = Kg / M^2

It is a poor tool/benchmark.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

I am simply saying that muscle is of higher density than fat and since the equation is

BMI = Kg / M^2

It is a poor tool/benchmark.

The vast majority of people in this world don't have enough muscle to throw it off that's the point most sane people are trying to make in this thread.

 

[Zebo]

I am simply saying that muscle is of higher density than fat and since the equation is

BMI = Kg / M^2

It is a poor tool/benchmark.

Proper tool is resting HR, that's it.

 

[TallBill]

How tall are you Tall bill? 250 aint shit for tall men. I think most basketball players are 240-250 and thin as a rail. Labron is like 260 right? Out of shape obviously.

Yeah, 250 was a really good weight for me at 6'6". I was at probably 11-12% bodyfat. I've had some injuries and whatnot, but I should be able to get at least back to 240 pretty easily.

I am simply saying that muscle is of higher density than fat and since the equation is

BMI = Kg / M^2

It is a poor tool/benchmark.

I get what you're saying but even a shitload of muscle puts extra stress on pretty much every system within the human body. Joints, tendons, circulatory, the list goes on. Is it better than fat, yes, but it still can cause problems.

Because being large is awesome. I'm a man of size and I used to have problems with the ladies. I spend the last few years in the gym and it's a different world for me now. I'm still a bit tubby, not especially handsome, average job, but the ladies like a big strong man who makes them feel safe.

Heh ladies have never been tough.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Proper tool is resting HR, that's it.

A truly proper tool is probably a combination of a bunch of things; I'm sure you can find outliers that have great HR, but are otherwise unhealthy. Lets not fool ourselves into thinking the human body is a simple thing.

 

[Zebo]

Yeah, 250 was a really good weight for me at 6'6". I was at probably 11-12% bodyfat. I've had some injuries and whatnot, but I should be able to get at least back to 240 pretty easily.

I've never been less than 240 since 17 @ 6'4". Ballooned up to 320 when I let myself go but still only had a 38 in waist lol. Tall rules. Only problem is it can hide a lot of unhealthyness.

 

[Patranus]

The vast majority of people in this world don't have enough muscle to throw it off that's the point most sane people are trying to make in this thread.

BAI is a much better benchmark as it looks at the waist circumference.

Lets take a 6'/185/32" male

BMI - 25.1 - 'Over Weight'
BAI estimates 14.5% body fat which is essentially the middle of the 'healthy' range.

(And I think we can all agree that a man who is 6' tall, weighing 185 pounds, with a 32" waist is healthy if not very healthy.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

BAI is a much better benchmark as it looks at the waist circumference.

Lets take a 6'/185/32" male

BMI - 25.1 - 'Over Weight'
BAI estimates 14.5% body fat which is essentially the middle of the 'healthy' range.

(And I think we can all agree that a man who is 6' tall, weighing 185 pounds, with a 32" waist is healthy if not very healthy.

Being overweight is not the end of the world, and yea there's better ways but they all require information that's harder to get than height/weight. Not much harder granted. BMI isn't good for anything but a very quick inquiry that might warrent looking into things further not drawing conclusion from.

 

[torpid]

Never heard of BAI. Looks more useful than BMI. I've gone through two weight loss periods in recent years - now and 4 years ago. At the moment I am about 10 lbs heavier than I was at my lowest the last time. Yet my waist size is roughly 3" smaller and I am in WAY better shape, because I've put on substantial muscle (compared to what I used to have, anyway). Going by BMI I'm "worse" off, but going by BAI I'm way better off.

The results of this study are obvious once you know they used BMI. Even before, really.

 

[CZroe]

The same one that eliminates the second space when starting a new sentence.

2 spaces after a period is correct, not 1!

Except that that is categorically false and only ever existed due to mono-spaced typefaces that are irrelevant on most electronic devices and modern mechanical print.